WHM DD

Long story short, I made New GEO DPS spreadsheet that also works for whm.
More info here.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/41358/bubble-trouble-a-geomancer-guide/62/#3547991

Could REALLY use some feedback. Thanks!

I can poke at it more when I get the chance, thanks Sechs!
One thing that comes up off the top of my head is that the fTP value of Randgrith, as listed on BG, is six years out of date.
I know I did some fTP retesting 5 years ago, and I have my notes on them still, but I'm having trouble making sense of my notation. It could be a 4.25 fTP if I'm reading this right, but I'm not confident with that figure.

Good work.

Missing:

Amar cluster (Ammo)
Chirich Ring NQ
Cleric's Torque (All 3 levels)

From my personal gear set, thats what I see.

I'm just going to post my raw Randgrith data from 5 years ago for someone else to interpret, I don't have the time to break it down myself at the moment.

Setup:
Samples:

4.25

Thanks Austar, Trying to get going on Ou runs and theres no way I could try and do math while juggling other stuff going on!

@mims
Just doublechecked on JPwiki, it confirms your data. Updated the FTP on the spreadsheet and on BG wiki.


Ooooh Amar Cluster is nice, thanks for that.
Cleric's Torque what for? INT/MND+15 for some WS? Is it any good for anything? I might have underestimated it.

Chirich NQ I dunno, with so many STP+5 options out there and with out cheap the HQ is I ignored the NQ on purpose.
What do you guys think? Would you prefer me to add the NQ as well? I was tryin to keep the list short to make it easier to pick options that are different and that matters, but if you guys want the NQ as well it's np at all for me to add it of course :-D

As I said in the Geo thread there's something wrong about the max possible damage, it's lower than intended.
Att caps too early and as a consequence final damage doesn't go past a certain threshold, which is reached earlier than intended.

I have no clue what's wrong, the pdif values are correct afaik.
If anyone wants to give it a look and find where is the error I'd be really grateful.

/nin and /dnc both give 1 tier of PDL+ (and so do most other dd subjobs), are you accounting for that?

ninja doesn't, it's level 50.

As Austar said, /NIN does not, and yes I am taking that into account.
Damage is still lower than intended.

As I said in the other thread a few days ago, alone, I was hitting Apex Bats in Dho Gates pretty solidly for 14k with Realmrazer with a non-optimal set. I wasn't even att capped, probably.

On the spreadsheet I can't get it above 12k and I noticed that it takes to small of an att amount to reach the cap. Meaning there's something "wrong" in the formulas that is currently allowing me to reach the "cap" earlier than intended.
This leads me to think the "cap" is lower than intended, hence why damage can't go above 12k, but I've checked and rechecked and rechecked the pdif stuff and everything seems correct to me =/

I see sechs has a whm dd its time to make one too

Does anyone know if Asclepius Path A procs on WS’s?

it won't

I'm trying to start up a DD WHM, but it's a lot more work than I though, lol.

TP:
ItemSet 376345

Cape is 20 DEX, 30 acc/20 attack, 10 DA, 10 PDT

Hexa Strike:

ItemSet 376347

Cape is 30 MND, 20 acc, 20 attack, WSD +10, PDT -10

Flash Nova:
ItemSet 376472

Same Cape as Hexa Strike for now. Feet have M acc + 35 MAB +39 augment. I think this is the set that needs the most work, but not sure exactly what's out there.

Blistering Sallet +1 R15 is your friend!

For your other doubts, you can measure which item is better in each slot using the WHM SPREADSHEET

I do have to ask why you are using a D.Ring in a TP set. I imagine it was placed in error but just wanted to point that out.

Force of habit from melee, I make all my TP sets with as much DT as I can.

I’m still over 1200 acc with the D Ring, before buffs.

As far as Flash Nova is concerned, I was more wondering what people were using for BiS. Most of the gear I have in there is just random gear I was using got Holy I got randomly over the past few months. But not sure if there are any random pieces from other events I’m not thinking of that could be better for it.

Rufescent and Weatherspoon rings?

Cohort cloak R15 in place of the head/body, Orpheus sash

How are Flash Nova numbers compared to a maxentius black halo ?

For WHM (and other mages) Daybreak flash nova will overall do better numbers, like 15k-35k. It also does full dmg at 1k tp. Theres also the fact that Mages dont have a great melee weapon equipment set options but alot more magic atk equipment for magic weaponskills. Some mobs are weak or resistant to light which will affect numbers.

The main problem with WHM or mage DD in general is not the weaponskill numbers but how awful the tp sets are. They've been stuck at ambuscade grade. Whereas the DDs, RDM and BRD have gotten lilith/htbg ,abjurations and unity.

Absolutely. As whm were definitely dealing with a more limited toolset in melee land.

I just like to make sure I have variety. I small man or solo a lot. And I enjoy doing it on whm. So meta doesn’t apply to me in those circumstances.

I think at this point we need super bowl commercial with info that mog garden haste is magic haste, because this recent discovered knowledge seems to be avoiding people here :)

If you guys wanna test things in a less biased way, you can use the WHM DPS spreadsheet, I keep it updated and Nyame gear is in.
Think I might have to add Bunzi actually, gonna do it now.

Looking into making a Quick an Dirty DD set for my whm mule.
preferable compatible with BRD as well

This is my first draft
ItemSet 384240
main="Tishtrya",
sub="Genmei Shield",
ammo="Crepuscular Pebble",
head="Aya. Zucchetto +2",
neck="Combatant's Torque",
ear1="Crep. Earring",
ear2="Digni. Earring",
body="Ayanmo Corazza +2",
hands="Bunzi's Gloves",
ring1="Petrov Ring",
ring2="Rajas Ring",
back="Alaunus's Cape", DEX 30 ACC 20 ATk 20
waist="Windbuffet Belt",
legs="Aya. Cosciales +2",
feet="Telchine Pigaches" STP + ACC

I was trying to repalce pants with telchine and make up the haste with blistering sallets but im running 1 haste short then.
Also im not really happy with the ammo slot

Any input ?

- no augments Oddy gear ( base is fine)
- No omen boddies

Hasty Pinion +1?

Edit: Also can put haste on the ambu cape if you're really hungry for it.

Get Maxentius, Nyame + BH with that weapon puts on really nice numbers.