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By Asura.Sechs 2025-02-23 18:03:43
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Note to whomever wants to go for generic melee linos, on the snow slot keep in mind that there are 3 different categories
+Acc (caps at 20)
+Att (caps at 20)
+Att/Acc (caps at 15)

The combined one is extremely rare in general, not just the capped version.
I've seen it less than 5 times over several thousands of snowstones (mostly +2s, but some +1 stacks as well)
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-23 18:53:12
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
I think its easy enough to cap out waltz potency without a Linos?

Show me. Unless you're including Gleti's Knife in the Offhand or multiple Chironic (Dark Matter) Waltz Potency pieces, I couldn't hit 50% without one. Also, Linos has an attribute slot as well, so you can add CHR to it also for a little higher potency.

I made the below set when I got a Waltz Potency +10% Chironic Doublet augment from DM campaign. Figured since I almost never sub NIN anymore, I may as well have a set to backup support heals/erases/steps.

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Unless I'm missing something, BRD can only hit 43% without Linos using 4/5 Telchine 5% potency pieces, unless you use Gleti's Knife like I mentioned.
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By tallica 2025-02-23 22:53:57
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How's prime dagger for bard? People sticking to carn and naegling?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-02-24 00:47:59
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tallica said: »
How's prime dagger for bard? People sticking to carn and naegling?

It's nice to not have to get am3 up. I prefer prime for short fights like sheol c.

It's also nice for soloing, since you can 3-step with all good WS instead of mixing in trash like evisceration.

Definitely not essential for brd, but can see some use.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-02-24 03:43:57
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
I think its easy enough to cap out waltz potency without a Linos?

Show me. Unless you're including Gleti's Knife in the Offhand or multiple Chironic (Dark Matter) Waltz Potency pieces, I couldn't hit 50% without one. Also, Linos has an attribute slot as well, so you can add CHR to it also for a little higher potency.

I made the below set when I got a Waltz Potency +10% Chironic Doublet augment from DM campaign. Figured since I almost never sub NIN anymore, I may as well have a set to backup support heals/erases/steps.

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Unless I'm missing something, BRD can only hit 43% without Linos using 4/5 Telchine 5% potency pieces, unless you use Gleti's Knife like I mentioned.

To be fair, I had assumed you could +11 Fern stone the Chironic set, but I didnt realize it was exclusive to Herc gear.

My mistake... But yeah Just dark matter dummy :)
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By meylee 2025-02-24 06:55:47
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Note to whomever wants to go for generic melee linos, on the snow slot keep in mind that there are 3 different categories
+Acc (caps at 20)
+Att (caps at 20)
+Att/Acc (caps at 15)

The combined one is extremely rare in general, not just the capped version.
I've seen it less than 5 times over several thousands of snowstones (mostly +2s, but some +1 stacks as well)

In 75 +2's i've gotten a 12/12, a 13/13, and a 15/15 on the attk/acc, but have yet to get any individual acc or atk over 15 :(
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-02-24 06:59:20
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I've seen at least 3 +20, two were acc and one was att.
I've seen aplenty of stuff between <20 and >15 on single acc or att though.

Consider that I'm talking about literally thousands of stones, it's not an exxageration, I think it should be around 2300ish stones but it's realistically even higher, 2304 is where I lost track.
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By meylee 2025-02-24 07:00:06
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im doing a stack now, got like 25 left, and got a 15/15 acc/atk combined lol, 3 total combined still no acc or atk over 15
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By meylee 2025-02-24 07:05:13
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Asura.Sechs said: »
I've seen at least 3 +20, two were acc and one was att.
I've seen aplenty of stuff between >20 and >15 on single acc or att though.

Consider that I'm talking about literally thousands of stones, it's not an exxageration, I think it should be around 2300ish stones but it's realistically even higher, 2304 is where I lost track.

After 99 stones final count for me.
11acc/11atk - 1
12acc/12atk - 1
13acc/13atk - 1
15acc/15atk - 1
15 acc - 7
17 acc - 1
15 atk - 6

either i have good or ***luck, idk which lmao

ended up just doing 15/15 on my tp one and 13/13 on my wsd one
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-02-24 07:05:38
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I'd keep the 15 combined!
I kinda regret not settling for the acc+20 aug when I got it not once but twice, but oh well, can't change the past.
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By meylee 2025-02-24 07:06:32
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Yep, got it on my tp one so keeping it, figure 15 atk worth not bothering trying for another 5 acc
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By meylee 2025-04-16 08:20:18
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I hadn't run it through the sim but your post made me curious so I did the same, our results are fairly similar but also considering what I mentioned above about the PITA of re-apply Haste Samba, I stand by my opinion.

My set, /NIN: 10418 DPS
Your set, /DNC, No samba: 10008 DPS
Your set, /DNC, Samba: 11402 DPS

AKA if you're not going to use Samba, /DNC and your set is worse. I prefer not to use Samba in most content because it's obnoxious and the timing is terrible in real-life, not represented by the sim (does it even include the JA forced wait?) and it's very difficult to practically simulate Haste Samba wearing off right at the end of a mob/pack, or putting samba up to fight 2 mobs, then walk for 30 seconds. Other things like what if you finish a mob with a WS, then haste samba wears off? You need to start the next mob, hit it for 1-2 attack rounds, then either interrupt your auto-attacks to put samba back up or wait until 1350+ TP and then Samba before your WS, which means you're well under delay cap for that entire mob.

There are a lot of very frustrating aspects of keeping Haste Samba up on /DNC, none of which show up in a sim.


so based off this your saying Nayme legs/feet prase better than volte legs/feet?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-04-16 10:22:58
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meylee said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I hadn't run it through the sim but your post made me curious so I did the same, our results are fairly similar but also considering what I mentioned above about the PITA of re-apply Haste Samba, I stand by my opinion.

My set, /NIN: 10418 DPS
Your set, /DNC, No samba: 10008 DPS
Your set, /DNC, Samba: 11402 DPS

AKA if you're not going to use Samba, /DNC and your set is worse. I prefer not to use Samba in most content because it's obnoxious and the timing is terrible in real-life, not represented by the sim (does it even include the JA forced wait?) and it's very difficult to practically simulate Haste Samba wearing off right at the end of a mob/pack, or putting samba up to fight 2 mobs, then walk for 30 seconds. Other things like what if you finish a mob with a WS, then haste samba wears off? You need to start the next mob, hit it for 1-2 attack rounds, then either interrupt your auto-attacks to put samba back up or wait until 1350+ TP and then Samba before your WS, which means you're well under delay cap for that entire mob.

There are a lot of very frustrating aspects of keeping Haste Samba up on /DNC, none of which show up in a sim.


so based off this your saying Nayme legs/feet prase better than volte legs/feet?

This question is a bit misleading. Nyame Legs/Feet won't cap attack speed unless you're using a haste belt (or instrument, or ring) so...it depends on a lot of factors.

If you don't have a haste Linos or the TVR haste ring, in order to wear Nyame legs you have to be wearing a haste belt. If you're wearing a haste belt and dual-wielding, then you want to put DW in earrings or back piece.

At the end of the day, the differences between these sets are pretty minimal. Make sure you have capped equipment haste, make sure you have enough DW for your subjob, and then pick DA/STP to your liking. I personally prefer STP because it doesn't experience diminishing returns, handles AM3 well, etc.

If you want to stack a bunch of DA instead that's fine too, it's within a couple % either way.
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-05-12 18:24:28
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Just wondering if this is a decent DD BRD set to jump off from. I know I asked a while back, and have since acquired some more gear for it.

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Current weapons are Naegling/TP Dagger, and a Tauret as my dagger option atm. The BRD's charm isn't ranked up quite much, so I was thinking of swapping in Null Loop in the meantime. I also have a DW ambu cape as an option if I want to swap out an earring.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-12 22:11:51
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It's fine, checks the haste and DW needs and can be improved later, but completely fine.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-05-13 01:01:19
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Set is ~2% under the DW cap. Which is probably fine, but I wanted to make sure you're aware of it.
You could "solve" the issue by:

1) Using a DW belt
2) Using a DW+10 Ambu cape

For option 1 the ideal is Reiki Yotai but that's not exactely easy to solo farm, which brings us back to Shetal Stone, that you can easily farm on your own, or NQ gerdr belt. Each of these options means you won't be able to cap haste with the Waist slot, meaning you will need different options. For instance Null Masque or Ayanmo+2 legs.

If you go for option 2, that frees up the 2 earring slots of course.

Nyame feet are an interesting feet option alternative (but only R20+ probably) and likewise Bunzi Head (again, probably just R20+).
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By Nariont 2025-05-13 01:06:14
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DW belt runs you into haste issues, can compensate through putting haste on the linos but thats a dip in i think DA or QA, forget what slot haste is on. While putting it on the cape means you lose out on the 7 STP/DA plus 50 acc/macc/meva/eva, i think its a bit of wash no matter how you cut it, ideally you're using samba anyway and the problem solves itself since you only need +9 there
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-13 01:27:58
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That set is capped DW with /DNC and haste samba. If for some reason you're subbing ninja, 2 under is not critical but you could make a dw cape, but then you lose Null. Pretty sure this comes up literally every few months, and Simon did the math on it a page or two ago. Sun Dancer and pop samba and you don't have to make any weird accessory adjustments

Edit: Maletaru mentions other alternatives I'm his post above (haste linos or lehko's ring). It's not only the waist, earrings, or back slots
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By LightningHelix 2025-05-18 17:44:15
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So, they just gave us free Bonanza weapons. Obviously blah blah Miracle Cheer, but what I actually wanted to ask was, does Chocobo Knife giving 10% gear haste on a relatively-reasonable-stats offhand do anything for TP sets (in non-TP bonus offhand situations)?

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By Genoxd 2025-05-18 17:45:08
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No.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-05-18 18:40:15
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Chocobo Knife does feel like the spooniest choice, though.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-05-18 19:12:41
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It's a terrible offhand, you're giving up a weapon with good stats in the offhand to get haste. Even if I had it for free, I'd never wear it in the offhand for BRD (or maybe any job, idk)
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-05-18 19:28:55
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I get that they wanted it to be thematic or w/e, but F tier easy
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By LightningHelix 2025-05-18 20:51:08
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it doesn't even have "on hit, 25% chance to give Flee" - like, they gave it the move speed but come on, it was right there
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By paladinepsot 2025-05-18 21:06:00
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It's a terrible offhand, you're giving up a weapon with good stats in the offhand to get haste. Even if I had it for free, I'd never wear it in the offhand for BRD (or maybe any job, idk)

The movement speed makes it good for pulling if you don't have a Shneddick. Since you have speed on an offhand that's already bis for evasion you can wear something a lot better than Carmine on the legs. Carmine to empy +3 gains 61 evasion and if not already capped, 13 dt.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-05-18 21:10:11
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Chocobo Knife does feel like the spooniest choice, though.

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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-05-18 21:43:39
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paladinepsot said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
It's a terrible offhand, you're giving up a weapon with good stats in the offhand to get haste. Even if I had it for free, I'd never wear it in the offhand for BRD (or maybe any job, idk)

The movement speed makes it good for pulling if you don't have a Shneddick. Since you have speed on an offhand that's already bis for evasion you can wear something a lot better than Carmine on the legs. Carmine to empy +3 gains 61 evasion and if not already capped, 13 dt.

Thats nice and all but BRD can't wear carmine anyway.
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By paladinepsot 2025-05-18 21:52:00
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Welp, my bad. I mean if you really wanna squeeze 6 more evasion out of the feet slot and get like what, 13 more than ternion I guess it still applies? Assuming bard can use ternion while still not being bothered to check.
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By lugado 2025-05-27 10:32:41
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Empy feet have 18% on them
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By Slowforever 2025-05-30 15:17:03
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does everyone have boots / legs in their speed idle set? Is there any scenario chocobo knife could reign supreme?
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