The 6th Ministry's Secret: A Summoner's Guide (v2)

Already ML50 alas =/


I forgot Sylvie ain't #1 on Asura and hasn't been for the longest time, you're right... those hands probably just give me Refresh+1 atm >_>

Yeah I guess you nailed it...

I started with Merlinic Dastanas which had:
BPD+8
Macc+14
Mab+28

After ~1800 stones (mostly Fern, around 400 Pellucid too) I ended up with these two beauties:



I'm leaning towards the Mab+37 ones, despite the -5 Macc.
Opinions?

I agree!

since their magical bp's already have a native +100 magic acc, I would agree that the loss is acceptable. That and you can easily make up for that with food, where pet mab is a bit harder to come by.

BPD10, 26 MAB, and 30 MAcc
BPD10, 8 INT, 37 MAB, and 25 MAcc

is honestly not competitive. The second one may even have more MAcc than the first for INT-based abilities.

It's INT+6 not 8, but yeah your point stands strong regardless.
I muled the other and picked those.

It's not the best SMN augment on Merlinic hands seen over these boards, but I'd dare to say it's very very nice.

Help me out here. . . Prime staff stage 4, is equal to nirvana? Should I make a nirvana if I have a prime staff??

It's been discussed on previous page.
Stage 5 can be better than Nirvana in some aspects but not all, alas.
Nirvana is still very strong for several things, especially with AM3 up.

Whereas for magical BPs neither Opashoro stage5 nor Nirvana beat the other easy to obtain options, which is quite irksom if you ask me.

opa tier 4 is equal to nirvana without aftermath up.

opa tier 5 is..
better than nirvana without AM up.
is worse than nirvana with AM up.
it's best for flaming crush with or without opa AM.

Where’s Perg!?

No bpd so is it trash?

Looks very very good for magic bps even without that.
Was it a DM Aug?

Yep! Ok wow. Looks like could go to 60?

Looks like it should be roughly equivalent to a Grio with 10 BPD and 25~26 Pet:MAB from augment. Very solid! I didn't realize it could go above 50 from DM.

no he traded it in with a 10,000 byne bill

Does the combo of Pet: Macc & MaB that go up to 30? or only 25?

theoretically the cap would be 55~60 mab which is pretty incredible. Its alot higher than the 30 we thought was normal.

Could probably do similar w/ Pet: Acc/Atk combo and attack or str.

If we're doing comparisons, then I have a few I would love to know which is better.

I have these two gloves:



But I also have this set which might be better for hybrid?


This is my current attack set, I'm not sure if it beats the above in terms of hybrid:


Likewise I'm not sure which staff is better:



I've been holding on to all of them because I can't tell which is better.

First pair, don't even need the calculator to tell me that one.

Nah, Pet:MAB is huge for Flaming Crush and it's too low on these two pieces. Use your magic pair from above.

This one is harder because I'm not really sure how much INT is doing for you. I'd suggest testing them.

Use Night Terror since it can't be resisted, and make sure your avatar has 0 TP both times. If you can perform the test on the same target (if the first BP doesn't kill it) then you should only need 1 BP with each staff. Whichever is higher wins. You'll want to do this on a fairly high iLvl target for a good measure of how effective the INT is. If you have any friends doing V25 Ongo RP, that would be a fantastic test subject.

Haven't had a chance to test the staves, but I think I found something even better than the two magic gloves I had before.



I don't think I'm beating these.

Congratulations! Your luck level reset to minimum. You can try again next year.

as a rule of thumb for smn damage, 1 bp damage = 2.5 mab for all magical bp's, for physical attacking ones, ive been told the formula is more skewed in favor of bp as well, closer to 1:5. for hybrids, revert back to the 1 mab : 2 attack ratio. so for example, 10 mab and 21 attack would be great if that's the best you have, but 11 mab and 20 attack would be better.

Why did you quote me to say this unrelated stuff?

I don't recall why, but a long time ago I switched from Convoker's Doublet to Glyphic Doublet for my hybrid set. I know there was a reason, but for the life of me I can't find it. Since all of the sets I see are very out of date, does anyone know which body you want to use for each of the BP types? Physical, Multihit, Magical, and Hybrid?

Thanks.

It all depends on the situation.
AF+4/Apogee Body for Hybrid(Flaming Crush) depending on the Macc needed.
Relic/AF+4 Body for any Ftp replicating BP like Volt Strike/Predator Claws/Hysteric Assault etc. Also depending on Nirvana AM3 and the rest of the gear since you need to adjust for the lost acc.
AF/Apogee Body for Magical depending on the Macc.
Those that arent Ftp replicating AF body +4.

Relic body don't do much for Hybrid BP. So no idea why you swapped.

Must have been a typo when I moved sets around. Thanks.