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Best/worst jobs after 13 years
 Bahamut.Shirai
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
By Bahamut.Shirai 2015-03-23 16:49:07
Didn't read the whole thread, but does anyone remember when... "lol fukn nub smn r heelrz lolololllol!" So every SMN was forced to be a healer with (sometimes without) free Carby because they had high MP and Cure 2 as SMN/WHM. I always hated that.
I remember, that's why from level 51 to 75 I solo'd and duo'd bombs and snolls in Ifirt's and Uleguerand.
I'd partied for a total of maybe 4 or 5 levels, most of my merits came from Flaming Crushing Goldfish in Sea. I quit SMN at like 22 because I didn't like the weak heals I was putting out.
I was a patient, patient man.
 Quetzalcoatl.Kyren
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 106
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyren 2015-03-23 16:54:52
Now that FFXI won't evolve what are the best and worst jobs of all times in FFXI ? Here is my opinion
BEST
#1 WHM : required for nearly everything exp parties even when RDMs were "kings", and now much greater than RDM. DNC, SCH or ... PUP never could compete and always were compared to WHM in a negative way ("it's cool but it can't do this that WHM can" kinds of comparison).
#2 MNK : uncontested DD for nearly every situation. The only DD that is equivalent is WAR and the only thing WAR can do beside monk is provoke which would never be used even at low levels. Can tank and DD. Most DDs have always been gimp compared to those except maybe relic DRK back at 75. SAM has always been overrated mostly due to auto capping weapon skills stats. Used to be optimal in low man engame (from limbus, dynamis, salvage to abyssea, and adoulin).
#3 BRD : the only buffer of the game. The others are good only when there is a bard which makes them pointless nearly all of the time. It's the first in its category though overall it's not really needed for low man endgame, just makes it ton faster.
WORST
PUP - uncontested. Can't DD for ***even with optimal gear. Used to be unable to hit exp mobs with sushis. BST and SMN seem to do better as pet jobs.
DRG - is it even good at something ?
DNC - what was the point again ?
JOB Failures : PLD (can't tank with DDs), Rune Fencer (wtf job).
COR, SAM, and SMN are the best jobs. Everything else is tolerable but that is just my unbiased opinion and has nothing to due with the fact I don't play anything else.
By volkom 2015-03-23 16:56:18
Dark Knight is the best job
By Kooljack 2015-03-23 17:00:16
geomancer above all
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first love; yagrush whm
tranced out bard; carn/daurdabla
skillchain master number one untouchable stun-nah; samurai
**-----these top 4 jobs i unbiasedly use constantly----**
cor -unique buff/offense
smn/rdm/sch; unique buffs/offense
anything else is discretionary towards something^^
thf -kingpin
war -unique spike dps
blu -unique utility dps
mnk -unique utility dps
rng -unique utility dps
drk -unique utility dps-
all others
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-23 17:01:07
Didn't read the whole thread, but does anyone remember when... "lol fukn nub smn r heelrz lolololllol!" So every SMN was forced to be a healer with (sometimes without) free Carby because they had high MP and Cure 2 as SMN/WHM. I always hated that.
I remember, that's why from level 51 to 75 I solo'd and duo'd bombs and snolls in Ifirt's and Uleguerand.
I'd partied for a total of maybe 4 or 5 levels, most of my merits came from Flaming Crushing Goldfish in Sea. I quit SMN at like 22 because I didn't like the weak heals I was putting out.
I was a patient, patient man. I solo'd SMN from 50-75, longest 8 months of my life @.@
It was worth it though. Even though I have quit the game, I know every single bomb pop in Ifrit's Cauldron cause of that. Probably made a close 10 mil from coffer chests (before they nerfed it that is).
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 Leviathan.Chaosx
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20284
By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-23 17:01:09
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3621
By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-03-23 17:06:07
Quetzalcoatl.Kyren said: »Everything else is tolerable but that is just my unbiased opinion and has nothing to due with the fact I don't play anything else. That is the opposite of what "unbiased" means.
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Quetzalcoatl.Kyren
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 106
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyren 2015-03-23 17:17:08
Quetzalcoatl.Kyren said: »Everything else is tolerable but that is just my unbiased opinion and has nothing to due with the fact I don't play anything else. That is the opposite of what "unbiased" means.
Pchan only plays the jobs he listed as the best and was trying to point that out lol.
By Kalila 2015-03-23 17:22:22
Everyone knows that melee WHM always has been, and always will be, the best job in FFXI.
duh! :)
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3621
By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-03-23 18:09:22
Quetzalcoatl.Kyren said: »Quetzalcoatl.Kyren said: »Everything else is tolerable but that is just my unbiased opinion and has nothing to due with the fact I don't play anything else. That is the opposite of what "unbiased" means.
Pchan only plays the jobs he listed as the best and was trying to point that out lol. Ah, sorry, completely whooshed me with that one.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2821
By Odin.Sheelay 2015-03-23 18:13:29
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »I fit "veteran noob" because no one does noob better.
I consider myself an "elite veteran noob", so there you go. I created the SJ's SJ. I will gladly welcome you under my guild of veteran noobs. Please?
 Bismarck.Snprphnx
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2715
By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2015-03-23 18:30:23
The majority of these are more in line with what's your favorite job, and what job have you heard sucks the most.
By Kalila 2015-03-23 18:35:05
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »The majority of these are more in line with what's your favorite job, and what job have you heard sucks the most. That's because "best" has to be a calculated best, proven to be better than any other job without a doubt. Since humans aren't perfect, and can't play at the jobs optimal performance at all times, this information is meaningless. Also, different situations might have certain jobs perform better than others.
So really, it comes down to what you enjoy using the most, and IMO that's all it ever should be anyways.
Cerberus.Cruxus
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 333
By Cerberus.Cruxus 2015-03-23 18:37:19
As Kalila stated, unless you're pulling out a specific situation out for job comparison this turns into what you like to play. With that in mind, my favorite job it PUP, most useful job DD: SAM, mage: WHM
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 224
By Asura.Celoria 2015-03-23 18:42:09
The best job is the one you play well and it fits a purpose. If you can main heal delve on sch better than you can main heal on whm, well sch is better for you.
If you like geo over playing something else, guess what. Geo is for you.
If you can DD on war and still get the job done, why go sam?
If you can tank on run why go pld.
Just because a group of people say a job is better than another doesn't mean it is better for you. You might have sub par gear and play on blu, but that doesn't mean you aren't good enough to beat someone in dmg on another job.
Play what the *** you want. If people won't invite you, make your own parties and go the jobs you enjoy.
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By Kalila 2015-03-23 18:47:44
I mean, you technically could pull out an enemies stats, with weaknesses and resistances. Then have a spreadsheet calculate the average DPS each job could potentially do against it. However, this can only calculate a perfect setting, where the enemy doesn't do anything but take your hits.
You have to avoid damage, take damage, and sometimes you'll KO. There are so many variables that can change which job comes out on top after considering everything. For example, a melee might have the highest calculated DPS, but because they have to move around a lot or something, a BLM will realistically take the top spot because they have a ranged advantage.
I'm just using the above as an example. So you could technically calculate and prove that a certain job would be best for a situation, but there are still so many variables involved that it really wouldn't mean too much unless that job had some abnormal advantage over any other job. Like the enemy is weak against slashing or something like that.
Also, the above is only for damage dealers, not healing/support, or tanking, so yea.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 196
By Odin.Blazeoffury 2015-03-23 19:17:12
Corsair.
Pirate clothes.
Princess partying.
DP is amazing.
do I even need to say more? *hairflip* Double Penetration is amazing? >.> That's one way to live your life i guess...
 Valefor.Sehachan
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-03-23 19:18:57
Sure; but in that context it actually means Death Penalty.
By Juggernautx 2015-03-23 19:20:23
Best Job: -Corsair. 8min rolls > afk to watch netflix > return to *** about the cp/hr > repeat.
2nd place to Samurai. Tachi: nerf proof.
Worst Job: -Dragoon because hatred runs deep, but the dps doesn't.
2nd place to Puppetmaster. You can't trust them and they lie about having all attachments. I've run many parses on xbox 360 telling me that all puppetmasters are bad people. True story.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 196
By Odin.Blazeoffury 2015-03-23 19:20:46
Sure; but in that context it actually means Death Penalty. Idk.. pirate clothes, princess partying? Sounds like they're getting drunk for the DP.
By Pantafernando 2015-03-23 19:23:04
Just common info, but unlike man, girls cant feel pleasure in the wrong hole.
Valefor.Sehachan
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-03-23 19:23:43
That isn't true Panta.
Anyway.
Leviathan.Hyriu
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 51
By Leviathan.Hyriu 2015-03-23 19:24:08
war/whm
good dd
good heal
provoke
defender
berserk
WARCRY
By fillerbunny9 2015-03-23 19:30:14
war/whm
good dd
good heal
provoke
defender
berserk
WARCRY
It's true, 'cuz the Prima guide says so!
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Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2742
By Fairy.Ghaleon 2015-03-23 19:33:19
I'm still kind of salty that Rune Fencer wasn't Rune Knight :/
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By Chyula 2015-03-23 19:55:46
drk/whm
top DD
Good Heal
Good Nuke
stun ***
Last Resort
Soul Eater
Cool scythe WS
Alot more mp to burn than shitty war/whm
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By Mookies 2015-03-23 20:05:01
Now that FFXI won't evolve what are the best and worst jobs of all times in FFXI ? Here is my opinion
BEST
#1 WHM : required for nearly everything exp parties even when RDMs were "kings", and now much greater than RDM. DNC, SCH or ... PUP never could compete and always were compared to WHM in a negative way ("it's cool but it can't do this that WHM can" kinds of comparison).
#2 MNK : uncontested DD for nearly every situation. The only DD that is equivalent is WAR and the only thing WAR can do beside monk is provoke which would never be used even at low levels. Can tank and DD. Most DDs have always been gimp compared to those except maybe relic DRK back at 75. SAM has always been overrated mostly due to auto capping weapon skills stats. Used to be optimal in low man engame (from limbus, dynamis, salvage to abyssea, and adoulin).
#3 BRD : the only buffer of the game. The others are good only when there is a bard which makes them pointless nearly all of the time. It's the first in its category though overall it's not really needed for low man endgame, just makes it ton faster.
WORST
PUP - uncontested. Can't DD for ***even with optimal gear. Used to be unable to hit exp mobs with sushis. BST and SMN seem to do better as pet jobs.
DRG - is it even good at something ?
DNC - what was the point again ?
JOB Failures : PLD (can't tank with DDs), Rune Fencer (wtf job).
If you had just posted what jobs you thought were bad without the un-needed HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE banter I would have let it slide.
But you are a *** moron, and obviously don't know enough about this game to be forming an opinion about it.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 224
By Asura.Celoria 2015-03-23 20:16:25
Bismarck.Legendia said: »I actually listed a job I hate playing, as the best; Because I backed up and tried to look at the big picture /shrug.
Same all the jobs I listed I am not a fan of.
Now that FFXI won't evolve what are the best and worst jobs of all times in FFXI ? Here is my opinion
BEST
#1 WHM : required for nearly everything exp parties even when RDMs were "kings", and now much greater than RDM. DNC, SCH or ... PUP never could compete and always were compared to WHM in a negative way ("it's cool but it can't do this that WHM can" kinds of comparison).
#2 MNK : uncontested DD for nearly every situation. The only DD that is equivalent is WAR and the only thing WAR can do beside monk is provoke which would never be used even at low levels. Can tank and DD. Most DDs have always been gimp compared to those except maybe relic DRK back at 75. SAM has always been overrated mostly due to auto capping weapon skills stats. Used to be optimal in low man engame (from limbus, dynamis, salvage to abyssea, and adoulin).
#3 BRD : the only buffer of the game. The others are good only when there is a bard which makes them pointless nearly all of the time. It's the first in its category though overall it's not really needed for low man endgame, just makes it ton faster.
WORST
PUP - uncontested. Can't DD for shit even with optimal gear. Used to be unable to hit exp mobs with sushis. BST and SMN seem to do better as pet jobs.
DRG - is it even good at something ?
DNC - what was the point again ?
JOB Failures : PLD (can't tank with DDs), Rune Fencer (wtf job).
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