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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-07-17 11:05:42
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Yeah, I'm using parse

Maybe I just don't' have a good sense of what my parry rate should be. I did not expect it to be near 30% though.
and because it does not track counter, I figured it was getting confused. kind of lazy on my part.

Parry from Inquartata on /run should only be 7% and parry floor is 5... so 12% is the minimum when /run.
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By Crappyday 2025-07-17 12:51:29
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So getting the bst geared up. Need to get the Job Points and Master Levels. Is there some recommended jug pets for Apex/Locus exp? I know a lot of the pet ready moves are aoe so concerned will get my little pt overwhelmed.
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By Minaras84 2025-07-17 21:43:05
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So getting the bst geared up. Need to get the Job Points and Master Levels. Is there some recommended jug pets for Apex/Locus exp? I know a lot of the pet ready moves are aoe so concerned will get my little pt overwhelmed.

Any pet that gives DEF down is going to be your best friend when exping on apex/locus and depending on your weapon, you can do different SC with it.
Ideally you want to pick your camp after deciding what pet you want to use for the monster correlation, so you can spam Killer Instinct whenever is up.
In some camps it'll be easy to use pets with aoe or conal moves (sephina, zhivago and vickie for example), in others it can be a bit harder.
Before getting diamond aspis if i had trouble using pet moves, i used to go with Naegling + Angelina (it's the only pet with a single target move that makes Light using Savage Blade).
Now with the shield i don't even care where i am, i just pop the pet for KI and i spam "x" steps SC (using Axe) until the mob dies.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-20 09:26:31
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Gearing BST and figured I need to get Cloudsplitter, so I thought about making Farsha. Is it any good when fully upgraded? Or is it more of a toy? I already have Aymur, but don't plan on making Guttler, unless that happens to be a better choice to Farsha.

Edit: And yes, I know I can build the -1 for Cloudsplitter, but if Farsha can be used for anything decent it would be worth going down the Empy path.
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By Felgarr 2025-07-20 09:40:07
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Gearing BST and figured I need to get Cloudsplitter, so I thought about making Farsha. Is it any good when fully upgraded? Or is it more of a toy? I already have Aymur, but don't plan on making Guttler, unless that happens to be a better choice to Farsha.

Edit: And yes, I know I can build the -1 for Cloudsplitter, but if Farsha can be used for anything decent it would be worth going down the Empy path.

I would say yes. I used both Farsha and R25 Ikenga's Axe as WAR during KI1 of Bumba v25 and in each scenario I was top parse and we got Bumba to 54-59% each time. (I'm sure that in a scenario were Beastmaster is preferred, this would also be a more than viable option).
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-20 09:44:59
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Gearing BST and figured I need to get Cloudsplitter, so I thought about making Farsha. Is it any good when fully upgraded? Or is it more of a toy? I already have Aymur, but don't plan on making Guttler, unless that happens to be a better choice to Farsha.

Edit: And yes, I know I can build the -1 for Cloudsplitter, but if Farsha can be used for anything decent it would be worth going down the Empy path.

I would say yes. I used both Farsha and R25 Ikenga's Axe as WAR during KI1 of Bumba v25 and in each scenario I was top parse and we got Bumba to 54-59% each time. (I'm sure that in a scenario were Beastmaster is preferred, this would also be a more than viable option).

I'm not a WAR and I doubt I'd be using BST for something like that. Is there any actual scenario outside of shoehorning a Farsha BST in to content for fun/not having better options?
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By Felgarr 2025-07-20 09:53:59
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Felgarr said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Gearing BST and figured I need to get Cloudsplitter, so I thought about making Farsha. Is it any good when fully upgraded? Or is it more of a toy? I already have Aymur, but don't plan on making Guttler, unless that happens to be a better choice to Farsha.

Edit: And yes, I know I can build the -1 for Cloudsplitter, but if Farsha can be used for anything decent it would be worth going down the Empy path.

I would say yes. I used both Farsha and R25 Ikenga's Axe as WAR during KI1 of Bumba v25 and in each scenario I was top parse and we got Bumba to 54-59% each time. (I'm sure that in a scenario were Beastmaster is preferred, this would also be a more than viable option).

I'm not a WAR and I doubt I'd be using BST for something like that. Is there any actual scenario outside of shoehorning a Farsha BST in to content for fun/not having better options?

If you're asking for specific situations where a BST *and* a Farsha is either necessary or otherwise, noted as having a significant advantage, then....unfortunately, no....nothing comes to mind (at all). In fact, I hate to say it, but I don't think any situation exactly requires or even slightly hints towards bringing a Beastmaster in 2025. This makes me very sad actually.

Also, in my previous reply, I was trying to say that: If there is a situation where you are bringing a Beastmaster and you're trying to avoid the WS wall, then Cloudsplitter (Empy AM3) + Calamity spam is one such scenario where you can perform well.

Sorry if this doesn't answer your question. If anyone has any suggestions for when a Beastmaster might be optimal (and Cloudsplitter being preferred over other Magical WSes, like Primal Rend), then I'm all ears and eager to hear what you have to say. :)
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-20 09:55:53
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I don't have Farsha and never needed it, nor has there ever been a time where I was invited as BST for my DPS where someone explicitly wanted me to have one. However, it's another tool/DPS option you can use in certain circumstances. It deals respectable damage, and AM3 is a nifty buff
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-20 09:58:20
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I don't have Farsha and never needed it, nor has there ever been a time where I was invited as BST for my DPS where someone explicitly wanted me to have one. However, it's another tool/DPS option you can use in certain circumstances. It deals respectable damage, and AM3 is a nifty buff

Thanks. I think I'll just make the -1 for Cloudsplitter and save the time, lol. Well, that is if I can find the materials for a decent price on this server.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-20 10:54:11
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I was considering making one, because BST is kind of type casted into one role, and it's it can get redundant. Having a magical option for DPS, even if it's weaker just gives me another build to play around with. Its probably weaker than Primal rend, but who knows, maybe if I win a future Bonanza and get a shield, it could be an interesting single wield fencer axe. By no means a must have or game changer, but the game is all about having fun with toys so it's whatever. Don't even care the cost, just make it casually over time, no rush.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2025-07-20 18:12:21
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They need to upgrade relic so I can use my Gutler more often. I am so sad that with all the buffs, the best it can do was like half of Calamity or less. I mean, I am not looking for anything too awesome, just a bit extra like 120% the damage instead of a measley 68% buff.
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By Minaras84 2025-07-20 18:28:00
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The only "non-toy" rema for bst is Aymur, but Farsha is probably the best axe you have for pure DPS.
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By Asura.Sirris 2025-07-21 01:32:31
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Farsha has a lot more synergy for warrior than beastmaster. I would not have made an R15 Farsha if I didn't also play WAR. If you want magical damage you'll use Aymur and Primal Rend. I use Farsha in my Reward set for BST and that's about it, unfortunately.
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By Asura.Nalfey 2025-07-21 05:52:58
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Minaras84 said: »
The only "non-toy" rema for bst is Aymur, but Farsha is probably the best axe you have for pure DPS.

I highly recommend any main BST to work their way towards Spalirisos stage 5, it’s by far the best physical DPS weapon when combined with K.Club, especially with it’s SC properties it out-damages Naegling.
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By Minaras84 2025-07-22 19:44:38
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Asura.Nalfey said: »
Minaras84 said: »
The only "non-toy" rema for bst is Aymur, but Farsha is probably the best axe you have for pure DPS.

I highly recommend any main BST to work their way towards Spalirisos stage 5, it’s by far the best physical DPS weapon when combined with K.Club, especially with it’s SC properties it out-damages Naegling.

Oh lol, true, i forgot about that axe!
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By Felgarr 2025-07-23 04:46:14
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Asura.Nalfey said: »
Minaras84 said: »
The only "non-toy" rema for bst is Aymur, but Farsha is probably the best axe you have for pure DPS.

I highly recommend any main BST to work their way towards Spalirisos stage 5, it’s by far the best physical DPS weapon when combined with K.Club, especially with it’s SC properties it out-damages Naegling.

This makes me very hopeful. Do you have a specific WS/Ready Move combo or just Blitz spam? (or is it Calamity spam since that WS is most like Savage Blade but for Axes).
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By Asura.Nalfey 2025-07-23 06:45:11
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I like to stick with Blitz but it is way better at 2k TP so my go to pets are Zhivago and Pete, but here are a few SCs that I’ve been playing around with.

Zhivago - for Def down :
SwoopingFrenzy > Blitz

Pondering Pete - for Healing:
Blitz > Whirl Claw > Blitz

Vickie - for Haste:
Sweeping Gouge > Blitz > Blitz > Blitz > Blitz

Gaston - for Attack boost:
Blitz > Blitz > Blitz > Charged Whisker

Patrick:
Blitz > Tail Blow > Blitz > Fireball

Unfortunately double Axes are really too slow to generate TP, that’s why I recommend to offhand K.Club with Spalirisos to consistently get fast 2k TP.
Even Ikenga Axe R25 feels like a slog but it’s still a great offhand option.

Like most Prime weapons Blitz really shines in over buffed situations with GEO, BRD, COR.
In an fully buffed ML party in Crawler’s Nest I was hitting 93-95k Blitz at 2k with Ikenga Axe and around 91-92k with K.Club as offhand.
In PUG Segment runs where I only had BRD and COR buffs Blitz was underperforming and I was most likely not attack capped.
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By Felgarr 2025-07-23 07:11:27
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Asura.Nalfey said: »
Unfortunately double Axes are really too slow to generate TP, that’s why I recommend to offhand K.Club with Spalirisos to consistently get fast 2k TP.
Even Ikenga Axe R25 feels like a slog but it’s still a great offhand option.

Yes! It is so painfully obvious that 1H Axes are artificially held back (lower floor) than other weapons. The availability of gear only has a placebo effect of barely bringing this weapon up to speed. It makes me so irrationally angry.
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By Dodik 2025-07-23 07:43:28
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If you have pdl in your WS set, can drop it for more Wsd in situations where you might not be attack capped.

Empy armor and rings are usual sources of pdl other than the weapon.
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By Minaras84 2025-07-25 02:12:57
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Asura.Nalfey said: »
I like to stick with Blitz but it is way better at 2k TP so my go to pets are Zhivago and Pete, but here are a few SCs that I’ve been playing around with.

Zhivago - for Def down :
SwoopingFrenzy > Blitz

Pondering Pete - for Healing:
Blitz > Whirl Claw > Blitz

Vickie - for Haste:
Sweeping Gouge > Blitz > Blitz > Blitz > Blitz

Gaston - for Attack boost:
Blitz > Blitz > Blitz > Charged Whisker

Patrick:
Blitz > Tail Blow > Blitz > Fireball

Unfortunately double Axes are really too slow to generate TP, that’s why I recommend to offhand K.Club with Spalirisos to consistently get fast 2k TP.
Even Ikenga Axe R25 feels like a slog but it’s still a great offhand option.

Like most Prime weapons Blitz really shines in over buffed situations with GEO, BRD, COR.
In an fully buffed ML party in Crawler’s Nest I was hitting 93-95k Blitz at 2k with Ikenga Axe and around 91-92k with K.Club as offhand.
In PUG Segment runs where I only had BRD and COR buffs Blitz was underperforming and I was most likely not attack capped.

Isn't Ikenga better than KC in a fully buffed situation?
You should be able to self SC even without pets and pull higher numbers...or not?
Have you tried spalirisos/diamond aspis with /drg or /war?
With that shield you should be able to spam Blitz until the mob dies basically.
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By Asura.Nalfey 2025-07-25 03:30:20
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Minaras84 said: »
Isn't Ikenga better than KC in a fully buffed situation?

Yes using Ikenga Axe will do more WS damage, but the main issue is the speed at which you gain TP when using two axes, you can really feel the delay.
Because you want to WS at 2k TP with Blitz you often end up missing your SC window if you're not using K.Club.

Minaras84 said: »
You should be able to self SC even without pets and pull higher numbers...or not?

With double axes if you WS at 1k TP yes you can continuously SC, but not if you want to make the most of Blitz and WS at 2k, that's when you need to use K.Club

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Have you tried spalirisos/diamond aspis with /drg or /war?

Yes Sub DRG does help get to those 2k TP when you have Jumps cooldown up and you time them well. (You really just need to WS at 1350 TP with Fencer and Moonshade.)
So yeah I would recommend sub DRG and diamond aspis if you don't have a K.Club.

Sub WAR I find less appealing because you already have Fencer as BST.
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By SimonSes 2025-07-25 08:56:13
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Why not magian axe instead. I don't think kraken club can push you to 2000tp faster, than magia axe to 1000tp, considering tp return from WS you would need to build like 1700tp with kc VS 700tp with axe.
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By Kaffy 2025-07-25 08:59:11
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crep knife was my go to offhand for bst
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-25 09:13:43
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Crep knife exists!? xD
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By Kaffy 2025-07-25 09:31:08
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got one legit on normal with no TH in an epic struggle on a gimp drk with all trusts dead spamming cata to stay alive. keep hope alive!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-25 09:48:45
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Kaffy said: »
got one legit on normal with no TH

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I only have Level 4 Spalirisos, not Level 5, but its still better than any other physical dd weapon for Bst, except for level 5 weapon.

I also have fully upgraded Fernagu (Magian TP Bonus Axe) which I usually use in offhand w/ Spalirisos. I do have 2 different WS sets depending on whether I'm over attack capped or not.
Even w/ trusts, I can hit 80k on Locus Tomb worms (yeah, I know some of the lowest def Locus mobs). Its really fantastic.

I very much agree w/ Nalfey and Kaffy.
I can occasionally self skillchain w/ capped haste from trusts, and I have an almost perfect TP set. Which makes the tp bonus offhand a bit underwhelming in this way. can make up for it w/ pet often, cuz Blitz is so flexible w/ skillchain properties. but bst has all 4d level 2 properties... cycling them all pretty fun.

for tp building offhand I think the order is like this:
Kraken Club > Crepuscular Knife > Ternion dagger +1 > Agwu's Axe

However there is a special Falkirk slot in here... Digirbalag dark matter augment QA3 + DA3. I'm not sure if K club is more rare or not... but this ranks along with Crepuscular.. btw that DA3 in addition to the DA3 already on the axe... so iirc it was a total of QA3 + DA6. which is just a absurdly good augment of which I have never been jealous even though I don't think he used it for a long time. yeah, not jealous at all.

Hm.. I guess it might still be slightly behind crep. knife.. cuz dagger lower delay than axe.

I gave the Crepuscular knife to my dnc alt, so until I get another one, ternion dagger +1 is best offhand for self skill chaining... and its alot more obtainable imo. It has LOTS of accuracy to make up for the lower dagger skill. The subtle blow and wsd+ are very nice as well. Definitely worth making and augmenting if you are not quite up to farming Crepuscular gear, and still waiting for Lady luck from Up in Arms.

The only way i could make my dual wield tp set faster would be QA3 augments for Valorous gear.. (still need +1 from Gerdr belt too )but that's not a great option. the defensive stats are so poor that way... its only a toy for low level content where.. I really don't need prolonged skillchains.

(AM3 Mythic stp set is faster, but ofcourse, not using Blitz w/ Spalirisos in offhand)

slight nitpick @Nalfey. Bst gets 630 TP Bonus from Fencer due to job points Gifts. so 630+250 (from Moonshade) is 880.. meaning you only need 1120+ TP to get over 2k potency. not 1350.

as far as support jobs go best Damage will be BST/drk when in a well buffed party w/ Spalirisos. the attack bonus, last resort, and PDL + will make bigger difference on physical weaponskills.

If you are NOT overcapped with attack, /drg will do better weaponskill damage.

Warrior is not bad, its 12% DA, some attack and acc bonuses from aggresor/berserk but since tandem strike, we not lacking acc. and its still beneficial as a fencer build support job, but its kinda mediocre for bst. Like Nalfey said, the redundancy of fencer is annoying. Besrerk DOES stack w/ Rage. though you have to be pretty bold and suicidal to drop your def by what 75~85%? but what delicious attack bonus! (which you can get from last resort anyway) /war is not bad, its just not as good and redundantly redundant as a support job.

Dual wielding is easier to self skillchian, dnc and nin have alot of utility, but /dnc wins out in utility and flexibility. Definitely the most common support job for bst. NIn might be faster dd simply because you won't be distracted w/ as many job abilities to use, and just swing more... but it feels pretty limited. You get dual wield ofcourse, fantastic... thats the only dd buff from it. Utsusemi ofcourse fantastic defensive buff. and you get snk/inviz for utility.

However, /dnc *should have higher dd potential. (certainly for solo) If haste samba is up, you have a more efficient tp build (emicho gauntlets + Gerdr belt ftw), you have def down from box step. you have skillchain bonus 2 from support job which stacks nicely w/ Nyame for WS and you can cap skillchain bonus quite nicely this way. so dnc actually adds more damage+ options than /nin... but it wastes more time in ja's also. oh and self curing, faster movement speed, more efficient snk/inviz. the utility is fantastic.

/run or /pld are fine options if you are in the strange but delightful position of tanking on bst. (I really like this) /run being better for enmity ja's and magic def... but hey, shield mastery for tp is pretty nice w/ Adapa shield build, but a mix of Parry, Counter, and Shield block is surprisingly effective on bst for defense.
Also bst caps damage taken reduction more easily than almost any job. and we have lots of options for it.

I think I'm inadvertently saying Falkirk should update the support job section of the guide :D. ... oh wait, there isn't one. How rare. and its probably fine w/out it.

/mage jobs are for the legendary time when Pet parties were alive and well... /sigh
...but still nice for solo farming Mulcibar's scoria and other random old content.
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By Felgarr 2025-07-25 16:19:34
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
/mage jobs are for the legendary time when Pet parties were alive and well... /sigh
...but still nice for solo farming Mulcibar's scoria and other random old content.

I really wish SE would stop being so restricting with playstyles and party setups. This is why Final Fantasy isn't attracting new players.

4-6x BST/WHM charming Lizards and fighting manticores in Cape Terrigan, from Level 65-71, was the most fun I've had in this game, probably ever.

Picture it: Downtime is based on Pet HP (not MP, not curing yourself). 4-6 BSTs and 4-6 Lizards fighting 1 IT Manticore. If a pet is running low on HP, just release it, let it walk about a few feet and re-charm it as it recovered some HP. It truly was glorious and so much fun.
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By SimonSes 2025-07-25 17:15:07
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Felgarr said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
/mage jobs are for the legendary time when Pet parties were alive and well... /sigh
...but still nice for solo farming Mulcibar's scoria and other random old content.

I really wish SE would stop being so restricting with playstyles and party setups. This is why Final Fantasy isn't attracting new players.

4-6x BST/WHM charming Lizards and fighting manticores in Cape Terrigan, from Level 65-71, was the most fun I've had in this game, probably ever.

Picture it: Downtime is based on Pet HP (not MP, not curing yourself). 4-6 BSTs and 4-6 Lizards fighting 1 IT Manticore. If a pet is running low on HP, just release it, let it walk about a few feet and re-charm it as it recovered some HP. It truly was glorious and so much fun.

It was also very inefficient, so what stops you from being inefficient today and make 5x BST + COR ML party? There is some guy I think who runs Sortie with 6x PUP or something. He isn't the most efficient, but he probably has a lot of fun. No idea why people can't play for fun like they used to 15 years ago, but write on forum, that they would like to.
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Probably other people. EN don't have the same creativity as JP like Xolla's group. I have a lot of fun ideas that I've proposed to others and nobody cares to try them out with me, so it just dies there. If it's not efficient or optimal, people don't have any interest. They'd rather bore themselves to death spamming an ezmode strat than try something fun and interesting and enjoy it, with slightly less efficiency. I caught a lot of hell during Iron Giant Ambuscade trying to fit Ninja's and Scholar's in the mix. I got laughed at for suggesting MNK+BST+SMN comps in Sortie. Even joined a Temenos climb in a PUG looking for "DD" and leader responded "please come as your best DD, not BST" (I just came as BST anyways). A lot of my Odyssey comp suggestions were ignored in favor of "the meta".

EN groups don't wanna try new ***, lol.
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