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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-18 14:23:37
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What I said takes into consideration what the video said, except I actually try to find how he could have been shot rather than straight dismissing it like the video does.

So what I said isn't what you understood.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 14:24:36
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Charlo likes to stretch things to the extreme, just so he has an argument, or will infer things that were never said, or otherwise implied.
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By charlo999 2015-01-18 14:27:59
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Bloodrose said: »
And still, all he can list is "Fox News", like it has some kind of credibility.

Bloodrose said: »
You're confusing Media Outlet, with Media Device.

Youtube is not the same as NBC, CNBC, FOX, or other news and media outlets.

They don't proselytize news.

Make your mind up.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 14:30:15
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Fox is still a media outlet.

It doesn't change it's lack of credibility, because it is what it is.

Youtube: Media Device.

News/entertainment stations: Media Outlet.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 14:31:38
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FOX is also more than just "FOX News", Fox is an entertainment company that produces movies, and there is a huge difference in listing Fox News, and FOX as entities.


Again, taking things to the extreme, or inferring things that were never implied.
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By Cecilia Charl 2015-01-18 14:33:30
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Bloodrose said: »
Fox is still a media outlet.

It doesn't change it's lack of credibility, because it is what it is.

Youtube: Media Device.

News/entertainment stations: Media Outlet.

Take all media with a grain of salt on a news story, every news channel is biased, just because one news group pertains to one's political affiliation, doesn't make them any more credible as a source (See NBC and what they did to the Weather channel.)
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 14:35:04
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Kei Nagase said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Fox is still a media outlet.

It doesn't change it's lack of credibility, because it is what it is.

Youtube: Media Device.

News/entertainment stations: Media Outlet.

Take all media with a grain of salt on a news story, every news channel is biased, just because one news group pertains to one's political affiliation, doesn't make them any more credible as a source (See NBC and what they did to the Weather channel.)
Which is why it's equally important to get the news from multiple sources, and then form your own opinion on the information presented.
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By Cecilia Charl 2015-01-18 14:35:37
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Bloodrose said: »
Kei Nagase said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Fox is still a media outlet.

It doesn't change it's lack of credibility, because it is what it is.

Youtube: Media Device.

News/entertainment stations: Media Outlet.

Take all media with a grain of salt on a news story, every news channel is biased, just because one news group pertains to one's political affiliation, doesn't make them any more credible as a source (See NBC and what they did to the Weather channel.)
Which is why it's equally important to get the news from multiple sources, and then form your own opinion on the information presented.

Exactly, get all the facts, compile, trim the fat
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-18 14:44:29
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or just watch Al Jazeera.
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By Asura.Ccl 2015-01-18 14:45:54
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charlo999 said: »

They say he was shot in the head.
So, bullet impact signs on the ground next to his head. And absolutely no signs of blood anywhere, from a point blank ranged shot with a AK47.

I have no experience with gun, are we really supposed to see blood and such as it claim on the video?
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By Cecilia Charl 2015-01-18 14:50:39
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Asura.Ccl said: »
charlo999 said: »

They say he was shot in the head.
So, bullet impact signs on the ground next to his head. And absolutely no signs of blood anywhere, from a point blank ranged shot with a AK47.

I have no experience with gun, are we really supposed to see blood and such as it claim on the video?

Yeah even at point blank, that bullet has enough strength to go straight into the skull and come out the other end, so yes there should be blood.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-18 14:50:45
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Asura.Ccl said: »
charlo999 said: »

They say he was shot in the head.
So, bullet impact signs on the ground next to his head. And absolutely no signs of blood anywhere, from a point blank ranged shot with a AK47.

I have no experience with gun, are we really supposed to see blood and such as it claim on the video?

One would think that the bullet entering a human skull and exiting onto the pavement would carry with it AT LEAST some blood.

More likely to carry with it a chunk of some brain.

I watched this video over and over again. It does appear like the jacket flaps slightly. However, I think that is more likely due to the bullet wishing past him so fast and the air pressure from the detonation of the bullet from the gun, as opposed to the bullet passing through his torso.

either way, at the very least, the government and media's official story clearly does not match the video.

At the most, yeah conspiracy..

By the way, If I posted a video of JFK being shot and speculated similarly to the "magic bullet" controversy, would you guys still post "conspiracy theory" mockery?
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By Cecilia Charl 2015-01-18 14:54:08
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Blazed1979 said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
charlo999 said: »

They say he was shot in the head.
So, bullet impact signs on the ground next to his head. And absolutely no signs of blood anywhere, from a point blank ranged shot with a AK47.

I have no experience with gun, are we really supposed to see blood and such as it claim on the video?

One would think that the bullet entering a human skull and exiting onto the pavement would carry with it AT LEAST some blood.

More likely to carry with it a chunk of some brain.

I watched this video over and over again. It does appear like the jacket flaps slightly. However, I think that is more likely due to the bullet wishing past him so fast and the air pressure from the detonation of the bullet from the gun, as opposed to the bullet passing through his torso.

either way, at the very least, the government and media's official story clearly does not match the video.

At the most, yeah conspiracy..

By the way, If I posted a video of JFK being shot and speculated similarly to the "magic bullet" controversy, would you guys still post "conspiracy theory" mockery?

if it was to show that a bullet passing through the skull caused that kind of spray and thus proving blood, I wouldn't.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-18 14:58:54
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Its pretty graphical. But anyone who has seen it knows what a bullet can do to a human's head.
wont post it in case there are any kiddies who read these threads (Would hope they are outside playing or riding their bikes instead of being in these dungeons)
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-18 14:59:18
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Bloodrose said: »
Charlo likes to stretch things to the extreme, just so he has an argument, or will infer things that were never said, or otherwise implied.
Oh okay, so his brain's state matches the way he builds his posts?

I find it pretty funny considering "charlo" in French means "clown".
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 15:02:22
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Blazed1979 said: »
Its pretty graphical. But anyone who has seen it knows what a bullet can do to a human's head.
wont post it in case there are any kiddies who read these threads (Would hope they are outside playing or riding their bikes instead of being in these dungeons)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-18 15:03:09
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I've been farming here for months, still no drops. This dungeon sucks balls!
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 15:03:25
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But... who's balls?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-18 15:07:13
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Dunno whoever.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-18 15:16:23
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I volunteer mine. suck away
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By charlo999 2015-01-18 15:42:05
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Charlo likes to stretch things to the extreme, just so he has an argument, or will infer things that were never said, or otherwise implied.
Oh okay, so his brain's state matches the way he builds his posts?

I find it pretty funny considering "charlo" in French means "clown".

That's nice to know.
Funny how rose hardly ever gives his opinion on stuff, and like a lot of other posters, spends his time instead making a mockery of others.
So please tell me blood, after watching the vid (brace yourself it's on YouTube) what is your opinion about the official story in relation to it?
Without sitting on the fence behind the fact your no ballistics expert(which you might say) I'm assuming you have common sense and can (dare me say it) think for yourself.
I'm interested.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-01-18 15:45:55
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Bloodrose said: »
who's

Whose

Don't be so NA
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 15:48:32
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I've given my opinion on many things. To simply assume what i'll say shows you can't think for yourself, and have predicated a mockery of someone's opinion before it is given, while simultaneously asking for one to mock.

The ridiculous, as Plato has put it, deserve to be ridiculed. If for no other reason than to get people to think, or to look at a new way of observing their own stance.

Another thing that I do, especially on hot button issues, is come to a debate informed so far as the information presents. I've altered my way of thinking on some subjects, and of people, simply by the tenacity of which they debate, or subject themselves to being humbled, and give them respect for such where it's due.

I could give you my opinion, but like in other threads, you would simply infer that which wasn't said or otherwise implied, and go to ridiculous lengths to create false arguments, which happen to be your trademark.
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By charlo999 2015-01-18 15:55:08
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I've simply asked you your opinion on visual factual evidence that has been mostly, for one reason or another, been taken away from a wider public audience.
So what is your opinion on that vid and nothing else?

Btw this is the last thing I said on a discussion regarding you a few pages back

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Totally respect your view there rose. Well said.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-01-18 15:56:21
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The ridiculous, as Plato has put it, deserve to be ridiculed. If for no other reason than to get people to think, or to look at a new way of observing their own stance

Er, I'm not so sure about that one. I'm no psychologist, but if your goal is to change the way people look at things, ridicule and insults (as fun as they can be sometimes) seem to be very ineffective. Just from my own observations, I'd say more often than not that it entrenches people further.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 16:03:47
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charlo999 said: »
I've simply asked you your opinion on visual factual evidence that has been mostly, for one reason or another, been taken away from a wider public audience.
So what is your opinion on that vid and nothing else?
My opinion?

It's a video. Without anything else to attribute to it, particularly lacking any knowledge of ballistic impact, aside from what I've seen in slow motion on Deadliest Warrior, the opinion would be that there needs to be a better video and actual context.

What we see isn't necessarily what happens. That being said, what we don't see isn't necessarily doesn't happen either.

In some instances, blood doesn't immediately pool or spray, though given what limited knowledge the average person has (myself included) on such matters, there isn't much of an opinion that can be made on logical grounds.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 16:10:40
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Bloodrose said: »
The ridiculous, as Plato has put it, deserve to be ridiculed. If for no other reason than to get people to think, or to look at a new way of observing their own stance

Er, I'm not so sure about that one. I'm no psychologist, but if your goal is to change the way people look at things, ridicule and insults (as fun as they can be sometimes) seem to be very ineffective. Just from my own observations, I'd say more often than not that it entrenches people further.
There's a right way and a wrong way to ridicule something.

Ridicule isn't necessarily insulting, since it can be as simple as pointing out flaws in an argument - thus ridiculing the ridiculous.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 16:28:32
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Bloodrose said: »
The ridiculous, as Plato has put it, deserve to be ridiculed. If for no other reason than to get people to think, or to look at a new way of observing their own stance

Er, I'm not so sure about that one. I'm no psychologist, but if your goal is to change the way people look at things, ridicule and insults (as fun as they can be sometimes) seem to be very ineffective. Just from my own observations, I'd say more often than not that it entrenches people further.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-18 16:29:21
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You forgot to mention cause he's a fine citizen of the world.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-18 16:34:36
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despite clashing on several topics, I would actually say in all honestly, Ravael is another person I would have a great time with.
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