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Mentally ill in Russia: you cannot drive
 Bahamut.Kara
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-01-09 07:49:10
Russia says drivers must not have 'sex disorders'
Quote: Russia has listed transsexual and transgender people among those who will no longer qualify for driving licences.
Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.
The government says it is tightening medical controls for drivers because Russia has too many road accidents.
"Pathological" gambling and compulsive stealing are also on the list. Russian psychiatrists and human rights lawyers have condemned the move.
The announcement follows international complaints about Russian harassment of gay-rights activists.
New Russian Regulation Says Transgender People Unfit to Drive
Quote: Transgender people may no longer be allowed to drive cars in Russia under new road safety regulations signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
A decree published on the government website earlier this month lists an array of health conditions that can disqualify someone from getting behind the wheel, among them "personality and behavioral disorders" listed in the World Health Organization's classification of diseases.
The sections in question — F60 to F69 — name transsexualism and transvestism, along with other "disorders of sexual preference," such as fetishism and voyeurism. "Disorders associated with sexual development and orientation" are also listed.
The new road safety rules are "aimed at reducing the death rate from traffic incidents" in the country, a government note accompanying the decree said. It did not specify how being genderqueer could limit a person's ability to drive safely.
The Association of Russian Lawyers for Human Rights lambasted the new rules as violations of the Russian Constitution, saying in an online statement that the decree deprives "all transgender people, bigender, asexuals, transvestites, cross-dressers [and] people who need a sex reassignment" of the right to drive.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-09 07:51:27
How do these people still get elected in this age? Mind blowing ignorance.
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 07:53:37
Yet some people on this site will keep touting Russia, its government, and countries in Russia's sphere of influence as more open-minded, less restrictive, and generally "better" than those in the West...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-09 07:54:44
Yet some people on this site will keep touting Russia, its government, and countries in Russia's sphere of influence as more open-minded, less restrictive, and generally "better" than those in the West... The person you're talking about is only second to Altima for sharpness, so yeah..
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 07:55:32
Yet some people on this site will keep touting Russia, its government, and countries in Russia's sphere of influence as more open-minded, less restrictive, and generally "better" than those in the West... The person you're talking about is only second to Altima for sharpness, so yeah..
Eh. I think there's a few folks between the two, but...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-09 07:59:01
Trying too hard.
edit: this was for Valli, post was removed
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-01-09 08:04:53
This world is so damned entertaining lol
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By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 08:05:09
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »~snip~
Don't be a moron.
Lesbian pornography is vital to the internet.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-09 08:06:18
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »~snip~ 
Woah, careful to not hurt yourself kid, that's dangerous.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-09 08:07:09
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »~snip~
Don't be a moron.
Lesbian pornography is vital to the internet. I can't remember the last time I watched lesbian porn. I think it was over 5 years ago, if not more. I really don't see the appeal.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-09 08:07:42
Lesbians aren't the bad kind of homosexuals (but that's a COMPLETELY different subject altogether.) Gonna try not to continue on down that road.
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 08:09:48
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »I can't remember the last time I watched lesbian porn. I think it was over 5 years ago, if not more. I really don't see the appeal.
Explaining it in a thread like this -- or publically at all -- seems awkward and inappropriate for me. Maybe someone else can explain it.
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 08:10:09
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Lesbians aren't the bad kind of homosexuals (but that's a COMPLETELY different subject altogether.) Gonna try not to continue on down that road.
Homosexuals are only the "bad kind" if you aren't turned on by them, right?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-09 08:10:17
"If I can fap to it then it's fine!"
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-01-09 08:17:34
Eh lesbians seem dangerous to me 2 menstruation cycles in the same month in the same relationship seems like a stick of dynamite and a lit match frolicking side by side lol and the 2 on 1 stuff is just a lot of work at one point just becomes push ups and crunches with animal noises
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-09 08:27:24
having been a visitor to liveleak.com, I would argue no one in russia can drive.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-01-09 08:35:13
How do these people still get elected in this age? Mind blowing ignorance. Well, first problem is assuming that elections in Russia are actually elections.
Second issue, though, is that Russia (more accurately, Putin) has been operating for several years on the principle of trying to distinguish itself from the West. Most countries in the West, even southern US states, are rapidly ratifying gay marriage and other civil protections, so in order to prove that they're better than the decadent West, all Putin needs to do is start bashing gays. It doesn't matter that he's tanked the economy and made the whole world hate him because he and his cronies are using the tried-and-true tactic of blind nationalism and patriotism.
So this legislation doesn't even shock me. What should worry everyone is how much the Republican Party fawns over this ***, as though they really want to imitate it.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-01-09 09:05:14
having been a visitor to liveleak.com, I would argue no one in russia can drive.
There's a dig about too much vodka in here
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By Fenrir.Reece 2015-01-09 09:08:03
To be quite frank.. It's Russia.. We're not exactly talking the epitome of morality here.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-01-09 09:18:12
Well... having fewer people driving, no mater what the reason, means fewer accidents.
But to balance this out, Russia is lowering the price of vodka.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-01-09 09:53:43
How do these people still get elected in this age? Mind blowing ignorance.
What makes you think they get elected anymore than dictators get elected?
To be quite frank.. It's Russia.. We're not exactly talking the epitome of morality here.
While I agree that xenophobia and homophobia are incompatible with morality, with few exceptions, every Russian I know is a very respectable and moral person. And, I know more Russians than most Americans.
Edit: I would like to add, that even here, transgender (I'm sure there's a more appropriate term) is considered a mental disorder at so far as insurance is considered and we have many mental disorders that exclude people from driving. It's not like we're some bastion of modern thinking.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-01-09 09:56:30
Never judge a group by its government else every American is literally Hitler Pol Pot Mao Zedong Idi Amin Rafael Trujillo Slobodan Milosevic Diablo.
Judge people as individuals.
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 10:00:31
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »else every American is literally Hitler.
Did we have to go full Godwin already?
I mean, your point is valid but... literally Hitler is literally impossible.
And even figuratively, it's not the best analogy.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-01-09 10:02:59
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »else every American is literally Hitler.
Did we have to go full Godwin already?
I mean, your point is valid but... literally Hitler is literally impossible.
And even figuratively, it's not the best analogy.
By Ramyrez 2015-01-09 10:16:04
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »else every American is literally Hitler.
Did we have to go full Godwin already?
I mean, your point is valid but... literally Hitler is literally impossible.
And even figuratively, it's not the best analogy.
Please. We all know I wasn't Gestapo in a prior life; I was an ace dog fighter in the Imperial German Flying Corps during the Great War.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2015-01-09 10:16:14
Probably the point here is prevent drivers from mooning while driving...
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By Fenrir.Ginny 2015-01-09 11:55:55
Edit: I would like to add, that even here, transgender (I'm sure there's a more appropriate term) is considered a mental disorder at so far as insurance is considered and we have many mental disorders that exclude people from driving. It's not like we're some bastion of modern thinking.
My car insurance rates dropped after I transitioned....
But this same logic is why the US military is one of the few remaining militaries that bar trans people from serving. Because gender dysphoria is still technically classified as a disorder. There is a large push to have the ban lifted.
Russia says drivers must not have 'sex disorders'
Quote: Russia has listed transsexual and transgender people among those who will no longer qualify for driving licences.
Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.
The government says it is tightening medical controls for drivers because Russia has too many road accidents.
"Pathological" gambling and compulsive stealing are also on the list. Russian psychiatrists and human rights lawyers have condemned the move.
The announcement follows international complaints about Russian harassment of gay-rights activists.
New Russian Regulation Says Transgender People Unfit to Drive
Quote: Transgender people may no longer be allowed to drive cars in Russia under new road safety regulations signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
A decree published on the government website earlier this month lists an array of health conditions that can disqualify someone from getting behind the wheel, among them "personality and behavioral disorders" listed in the World Health Organization's classification of diseases.
The sections in question — F60 to F69 — name transsexualism and transvestism, along with other "disorders of sexual preference," such as fetishism and voyeurism. "Disorders associated with sexual development and orientation" are also listed.
The new road safety rules are "aimed at reducing the death rate from traffic incidents" in the country, a government note accompanying the decree said. It did not specify how being genderqueer could limit a person's ability to drive safely.
The Association of Russian Lawyers for Human Rights lambasted the new rules as violations of the Russian Constitution, saying in an online statement that the decree deprives "all transgender people, bigender, asexuals, transvestites, cross-dressers [and] people who need a sex reassignment" of the right to drive.
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