Macro Bar- Do I HAVE To Hold They Key Down?

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Macro bar- Do I HAVE to hold they key down?
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By Snigs 2014-12-30 11:45:24
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So, I've played this game for a while on console. One of the features I can't seem to be able to play without was the ability to simply press alt or ctrl and the macro bar would come up instantly and stay up. I can't remember if it was an option that I enabled.

Is there anyway to enable this on PC? Sometimes I like to play with a controller and it's not playable without this feature (imo).
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2014-12-30 11:48:10
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You're looking for the Windower plugin DelayMeNot.
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By Snigs 2014-12-30 11:52:59
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That actually works perfectly. Thanks for the quick reply.
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By Asura.Limelol 2015-01-01 09:46:00
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I actually have a question related to part of the OP. Not the DelayMeNot part.

On the 360, when you press the macro bar buttons, they stay up. You don't have to hold them or anything. Is there a way change the PC version's macro bars to a toggle rather than a hold?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2015-01-01 10:11:14
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I use a controller on PC and my macros still work as you describe from controller (but not keyboard).

The behavior you're describing is a difference between controller and keyboard input that exists because control and alt have multiple functions and aren't tied exclusively to macro usage. This is also why the default behavior is to make the macro bar wait a second until it pops up (to verify that you aren't actually trying to use a different command).

For instance, if control was a toggle for whether or not the macro set is up (like L2 on the PS2 controller), then you'd hit L2 to pull it up and you'd accidentally untoggle it with Control-I or Control-M or any of the other ***that Control does. As it is, the behavior is:
L2 -> macro set pops up
Control M -> macro set disappears and magic menu pops up
Escape -> magic menu disappears, macro menu reappears

In order for them to have that behavior, they can't use control presses alone as a macro palette toggle, because a control press alone is ambiguous.
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By Asura.Limelol 2015-01-01 10:26:06
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Ah, that makes sense then.

The reason my controller on PC wouldn't toggle is because I used a program to rebind the triggers to Ctrl and Alt because they weren't being detected.

Thanks for the info.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2015-01-01 10:32:58
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NP, I just used the default FFXI mapping program for my controller and it worked fine.
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By Phoenix.Frankbrodie 2015-01-01 10:42:14
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Well I never noticed (or took any notice) of that before. Very good.

Like said, if you press the Ctrl or Alt buttons, the macro bar only stays on screen whilst you hold the buttons down.

But the controller buttons are like a toggle. And the macro bar can be turned on or off with them.

1st day of the year and I've learned something new already. It's all downhill from here folks!!