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St. Louis Vs. The Police: Part III Apocalypse Nigh
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-11-25 15:18:02
It's not liberal views that set minorities back.... It's only been 50 years since they've even had a right to vote in this nation. That should give you some insight on how they were looked at in the not so distant past. Minority groups have had to fight for basic rights when they were freely given to others. It's a systemic issue in our nation that is still going to take time to correct.
Am I saying that every minority is helpless and stuck at the bottom naturally? No. In general though it is harder for minorities to reach the same point.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 15:18:26
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 15:18:49
Damn you Flavin, you beat me to paging! Oh well.
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By Phoenix.Michiiru 2014-11-25 15:25:37
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Asks about power, guy posts the president, a man who effectively is a puppet of those in power.
But ok, if that makes you feel better. If that changes the reality of individual wealth, hiring potential, college graduation rates, home ownership and every other conceivable metric of measuring wealth. I mean there aren't dozens of articles and research projects on the disparity of wealth by race or the underhanded practices of municipalities against minorities from everything from where you can live to who gets promoted in the world of sanitation. We get one black president and that effectively solves all the problems still lingering from Reconstruction on through the Golden Era of America on through the Civil Rights era to the present.
By all means though, continue to delude yourself.
Fancy paragraph, a shame I don't give a *** because you'll just put your fingers in your ears and scream "LALALALALALALA IM RIGHT YOURE WRONG LALALALALALALA"
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-25 15:39:25
It's a fancy paragraph because those who have decided to undertake scholarly pursuits have come to those conclusions, not the *** armchair remarks of people who haven't known a day of being the subject of institutionalized racism. Continue to parrot Giuliani and every other status quo coward.
I am right, you are wrong and baby, that's a fact. I could link you to a number of books that back me up but lets drop the idea that anyone here wants to budge from their positions. Black people are lazy and dun wanna work vs. multifaceted examples of institutionalized racism. I know which one I'd put money on.
Hardcore free market capitalists up in here don't even understand what the concept of generational wealth and the systemic denial of such simple things as 'buying a house' within the last 70 years. Of course I mention a house because in America it's the thing worth the most money people possess and subsequently what they pass to their offspring that compounds in value.
By volkom 2014-11-25 15:57:00
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-25 16:20:56
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »It's a fancy paragraph because those who have decided to undertake scholarly pursuits have come to those conclusions, not the *** armchair remarks of people who haven't known a day of being the subject of institutionalized racism. Continue to parrot Giuliani and every other status quo coward.
I am right, you are wrong and baby, that's a fact. I could link you to a number of books that back me up but lets drop the idea that anyone here wants to budge from their positions. Black people are lazy and dun wanna work vs. multifaceted examples of institutionalized racism. I know which one I'd put money on.
Hardcore free market capitalists up in here don't even understand what the concept of generational wealth and the systemic denial of such simple things as 'buying a house' within the last 70 years. Of course I mention a house because in America it's the thing worth the most money people possess and subsequently what they pass to their offspring that compounds in value. I won't even comment as to how insane the credit scoring system is in the US, and how skewed loans/rates are.
By Enuyasha 2014-11-25 16:23:22
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »It's a fancy paragraph because those who have decided to undertake scholarly pursuits have come to those conclusions, not the *** armchair remarks of people who haven't known a day of being the subject of institutionalized racism. Continue to parrot Giuliani and every other status quo coward.
I am right, you are wrong and baby, that's a fact. I could link you to a number of books that back me up but lets drop the idea that anyone here wants to budge from their positions. Black people are lazy and dun wanna work vs. multifaceted examples of institutionalized racism. I know which one I'd put money on.
Hardcore free market capitalists up in here don't even understand what the concept of generational wealth and the systemic denial of such simple things as 'buying a house' within the last 70 years. Of course I mention a house because in America it's the thing worth the most money people possess and subsequently what they pass to their offspring that compounds in value. I won't even comment as to how insane the credit scoring system is in the US, and how skewed loans/rates are. And how legal predatory loans are.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-25 16:27:06
Just ignore reality and keep living in the 'everyone is equal' lie perpetuated by those benefiting from privilege!
Side bit: I love being called a racist. Never have I made any derogatory statements but the whiners can't help but attempt to construct a false equivalence fallacy to cover the fact they know nothing.
They don't know history, they don't know capitalism, they don't understand statistics, the ability to follow a chain of events or even how innate biases have very real consequences in the real world.
If you think black people are less than, guess who isn't getting that job with equal qualifications? BUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. SO UNFAIR. We're filling jobs with unqualified blacks to fill quotas! Woops, there goes those innate biases associating an entire group of people with 'less than'.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-11-25 16:43:45
4 new pages to read when I wake up. This thread is fun. Keep it going.
If you can, add more Morgan and maybe and MLK or two. Bonus points for Malcom X.
By volkom 2014-11-25 16:45:10
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-25 16:52:58
4 new pages to read when I wake up. This thread is fun. Keep it going.
If you can, add more Morgan and maybe and MLK or two. Bonus points for Malcom X.
The gestapo are going to shut this whole thing down quicker Todd Akin being taken seriously.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-25 16:53:13
In Bill Cosby's rape folder.
By Shiva.Shruiken 2014-11-25 17:03:05
Ackeronll said: If you can, add more Morgan and maybe and MLK or two.
By fonewear 2014-11-25 17:23:13
Another global warming thread ?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 17:33:32
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Never have I made any derogatory statements Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Darkies be scary, yo.
Darkies ***up your property values, yo. Better go live with other darkies and screw up your own community.
darkies can't pay their debts, yo.
Darkies be good prisoners, yo.
Better get a music deal or play sports, yo. Because that's all you're good for.
Congratulations for being your own worst enemy.
By fonewear 2014-11-25 17:39:53
I blame George W Bush and his lack of caring for black people.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 17:40:34
I blame George W Bush and his lack of caring for black people. Something about most destructive storms being given female names.
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By fonewear 2014-11-25 17:44:13
"And if you think naming a destructive storm after a woman is sexist, you obviously have never seen the gals grabbing for items at a clearance sale." Kent Brockman
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By fonewear 2014-11-25 17:45:26
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-11-25 17:58:23
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I see the racists are out in force, no wonder there will always be racial tensions in this country. You mean the racists that are black right?
I wasn't aware black people held the levers of power in this country. Enlighten me please, I await your ability to reshape reality.
Ok. I will make this easy for your brain to absorb. The only people holding black people back in this country are other blacks and the progressive liberals who tell them they are not responsible for themselves. Blacks in this country have more opportunities now than ever before but do they take advantage of them? No they don't, they use their race as an excuse to be lazy and blame their lives on others. People like l Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are poor role models for black people and should not follow their message.
From what I read, my point still stand.
Those leaders, they speak in the name of what? Do black people need a model and why for?
The simple fact that you say they have role models to follow shows how belittled black people are in USA and probably in most western countries. Only children need models.
If both society and community is telling to a black person how to behave as a black person (and not how to behave as a person) then we have a problem.
One of the biggest problem : the free will. Every single act are conditioned by the perception of yourself, so if you think about yourself as a black person and not as who you really are, you're tightly bound to act the same way as the stereotype commands to : the way people can talk to each other, the way they see their future, their relation to money, women, parents, authority etc...
I haven't read enough paperworks or meet enough afro-americans (ridiculous name, they are american and obviously they are not born anywhere near Africa) to understand the reasons why this brainwash occurred.
Being black is not a gift, it's not a curse, it's only a fact.
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By wormfeeder 2014-11-25 18:13:26
Well said detzu.
By fonewear 2014-11-25 18:15:50
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By fonewear 2014-11-25 19:41:18
Ready for round two kids. The night is young !
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-11-25 20:01:25
Just another instance of black boys on mopeds.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-11-25 20:04:22
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I see the racists are out in force, no wonder there will always be racial tensions in this country. You mean the racists that are black right?
I wasn't aware black people held the levers of power in this country. Enlighten me please, I await your ability to reshape reality.
Ok. I will make this easy for your brain to absorb. The only people holding black people back in this country are other blacks and the progressive liberals who tell them they are not responsible for themselves. Blacks in this country have more opportunities now than ever before but do they take advantage of them? No they don't, they use their race as an excuse to be lazy and blame their lives on others. People like l Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are poor role models for black people and should not follow their message.
From what I read, my point still stand.
Those leaders, they speak in the name of what? Do black people need a model and why for?
The simple fact that you say they have role models to follow shows how belittled black people are in USA and probably in most western countries. Only children need models.
If both society and community is telling to a black person how to behave as a black person (and not how to behave as a person) then we have a problem.
One of the biggest problem : the free will. Every single act are conditioned by the perception of yourself, so if you think about yourself as a black person and not as who you really are, you're tightly bound to act the same way as the stereotype commands to : the way people can talk to each other, the way they see their future, their relation to money, women, parents, authority etc...
I haven't read enough paperworks or meet enough afro-americans (ridiculous name, they are american and obviously they are not born anywhere near Africa) to understand the reasons why this brainwash occurred.
Being black is not a gift, it's not a curse, it's only a fact.
Quote: I saw a slogan on a guys car that said "Proud to be an American" and I thought "well what the f*** does that mean?"
Proud to be an American? Ya see, ive never understood national pride. Ive never understood ethnic pride. Im Irish. All four of my grand parents were born in Ireland. So i'm fully Irish, and when I was a kid I would go to the St Patrick's Day parade and i notice they sold a button that said "Proud to be Irish". And I could never understand that because i knew that on Columbus day the sold a different button that said "Proud to be Italian". Then came Black Pride, and Puerto Rican Pride. And I could never understand ethnic or national pride, because to me, Pride should be reserved for something you achieve or obtain on your own.
Not something that happens by accident of birth. Being Irish isn't a skill, it's a f***ing genetic accident.
You wouldn't be proud to be 5'11". I'm proud to have a pre-disposition for colon cancer. - George Carlin
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By fonewear 2014-11-25 20:43:51
It was the shooter on the grassy knoll !
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-11-25 21:14:57
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Just ignore reality and keep living in the 'everyone is equal' lie perpetuated by those benefiting from privilege!
Side bit: I love being called a racist. Never have I made any derogatory statements but the whiners can't help but attempt to construct a false equivalence fallacy to cover the fact they know nothing.
They don't know history, they don't know capitalism, they don't understand statistics, the ability to follow a chain of events or even how innate biases have very real consequences in the real world.
If you think black people are less than, guess who isn't getting that job with equal qualifications? BUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. SO UNFAIR. We're filling jobs with unqualified blacks to fill quotas! Woops, there goes those innate biases associating an entire group of people with 'less than'.
I hear the job market is good for Wahmbulance Drivers.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-25 22:29:49
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Never have I made any derogatory statements Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Darkies be scary, yo.
Darkies ***up your property values, yo. Better go live with other darkies and screw up your own community.
darkies can't pay their debts, yo.
Darkies be good prisoners, yo.
Better get a music deal or play sports, yo. Because that's all you're good for.
Congratulations for being your own worst enemy.
I'm certain even you can process the form of speech known as sarcasm.
Time to brace for impact as the grand jury decision draws near.
Quote: St. Louis-area resident Carolyn Colburn opened her front door two nights ago and had a bulletin from the City of Berkeley fall at her feet.
“The grand jury decision regarding the Ferguson police officer shooting of Michael Brown is expected this month — rumored as the middle of November, possibly this week,” warned the “News Alert” from town officials.
“It is important that we all plan ahead in the event that conditions warrant each of us to stay at or very close to our homes for several days,” stated the flier, which Berkeley distributed to 3,000 homes this week.
Berkeley, a bedroom community with 9,000 residents, borders Ferguson, where the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 triggered protests and riots and sparked a nationwide debate on race, policing and justice.
With few businesses in Berkeley, residents like Colburn do their shopping in neighboring Ferguson.
“It is very sad that we have to live in this fear,” Colburn told Yahoo News by email.
No date has been set for the grand jury’s ruling, but St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch has said he expects an announcement in mid- to late November.
Three months ago, 18-year-old Michael Brown’s death led to protests in which demonstrators burned down a gas station, looted liquor stores and clashed violently with police officers.
For the past month, law enforcement leaks to reporters have suggested that a grand jury will not indict Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson for killing Brown.
If that turns out to be the case, Berkeley Mayor Theodore Hoskins told Yahoo News, “it’s possible” the second round of protests will be worse than the first.
“There has been a three-month anger setting up,” said Hoskins, 76. “We get the feeling that there might be something destructive occur. I don't want my residents waking up one morning not knowing what to do.”
So earlier this week, the city of Berkeley began putting tip sheets with safety advice on the doors of every home.
Please make sure your home and family are prepared for a period of disruption, just as you would in the event of a storm,” the city advises.
In addition to suggesting that residents stock up on food, water, gas, medications and other supplies, the advisory says to have contingency plans for picking up children from school and taking care of the elderly.
“Travel to them may not be possible for a few days,” the alert states. “You may want to consider temporarily moving them in with you or others who can assure that their needs are met.”
Hoskins said feedback on the town’s decision has been mostly positive.
“You’ll always have two or three saying you’re creating an alarm that may be unnecessary, and we understand that,” he said.
Berkeley City Hall is four miles from the street where the deadly altercation between the officer and teen took place.
“I never thought that the incident that occurred in August would ever happen in our community,” Hoskins, a Berkeley resident for nearly 50 years, said of the shooting and aftermath. “I was under the impression that everybody had proper training for those types of situations.”
The bulletin suggests that residents load up on nonperishable supplies, especially since it's unknown whether Ferguson’s stores will remain open.
“That's the closest community that we go to, so we are just taking it safe,” Hoskins said.
Colburn was in Ferguson on Wednesday evening and said many businesses have already begun boarding up windows.
“Aggression and unrest are definitely rising,” she said. “I am worried about my son not being able to come home for Thanksgiving break.”
McCulloch, the prosecutor, has said claims of an announcement date or time should be ignored. But Hoskins said he is too close to the situation, with too much at stake, to remain idle.
“It seems to be narrowed down to between now and Monday,” the mayor said. “If anything spills over into our community, then I'll declare an emergency and we will do certain other things to protect our residents.” Ferguson's neighbor warns residents to prepare for the worst
Rumor is they're not going to press charges.
Federal charges appear unlikely in Ferguson police shooting: Washington Post
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