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St. Louis Vs. The Police: Part III Apocalypse Nigh
By Voren 2014-11-25 00:13:14
where was that thread with the people insisting that there is never a time that a citizen should ever need more than 5-7 rounds in a magazine? I'm sure the citizens of Ferguson agree completely right now
Two words: shot placement.
By volkom 2014-11-25 00:19:15
There was a live stream of the riots. Quite depressing to see crazed citizens destroy their own community. Definitely not deserving to live here
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-11-25 00:21:01
Dellwood Police Station burnt to the ground.
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By Odin.Minefield 2014-11-25 00:31:45
Puts a new definition of the term "Hot Fuzz".
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-11-25 00:47:18
Dellwood Police Station burnt to the ground.
didn't they correct it to, car on fire in front of it?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-25 01:20:49
I don't understand why the announced their decision at night, they should have done it at like 8 AM tomorrow morning.
By Lulukitty 2014-11-25 01:31:34
Bahamut.Lulukitty said: »Its honestly turned the area and surrounding areas into nonsense. Apparently already have burglaries in and around my neighborhood just within these past two hours -.- Havent heard any bizarro lynch mobs in my neighborhood yet. Football prolly trumps social outrage atm. But, my facebook is full of neo-revolutionaries screaming holocaust.
Prolly will be for the next 2-3 days.
I would think 2-3 days is hopeful >.> probably be weeks.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Gencay 2014-11-25 01:54:40
Sad thing is most of these idiots causing destruction and stuff are doing it cause they like to cause chaos, and make people life's miserable. Cause really wtf is the point of burning down innocent peoples businesses and looting stores and robing peoples homes instead of just going after the police and the judge who passed the none guilty verdict?
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-11-25 02:05:21
Dellwood Police Station burnt to the ground.
didn't they correct it to, car on fire in front of it?
No, that was Dellwood City Hall.
Quote: 1:19am: Dellwood Police Station is fully engulfed in flames.
1:30am: "The City of Dellwood¨s city hall is fully engulfed. #STLCOPD continues to ask for calm. #FergusonDecision."
1:36am: "CORRECTION: Dellwood City Hall not on fire. A car near the bldg was set on fire."
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-11-25 02:05:31
any the wonder why police in general have zero tolerance in the field... because they're morons with power? not hard to figure out
no Pizza or Walgreens now apparently...
They've been set ablaze.. calling little ceasars "pizza" is a stretch, more like tasteless fluffed cardboard with toppings. Wow morons with power? You really love putting everyone in the same pot don't you? Apparently there's no honest cops who want to make a difference because Jet apparently says so!
I was referring to potential life threatening situations. And i honestly wouldnt blame hem at all. I wouldnt give ppl the benefit of the doubt either. Thats how u wind up dead.
(Like that video in the thread a little while back where the guy reaches into a school back pack while in his car, and the cops that pulled them over drew there weapons.)
And ve never had little ceasers so i wouldnt know'
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-11-25 02:18:52
Dellwood Police Station burnt to the ground.
didn't they correct it to, car on fire in front of it?
No, that was Dellwood City Hall.
Quote: 1:19am: Dellwood Police Station is fully engulfed in flames.
1:30am: "The City of Dellwood¨s city hall is fully engulfed. #STLCOPD continues to ask for calm. #FergusonDecision."
1:36am: "CORRECTION: Dellwood City Hall not on fire. A car near the bldg was set on fire."
These times are EST
do you have a link or something? i can't find anything supporting that.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-11-25 02:19:53
Waited so long for this! Finally I get to see news about idiots being idiots! Took them long enough to make the court ruling.
I salute you rioters and your dedication to stupidity! Prove man kind is doomed to idiocy. It is your destiny.
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Also on the topic of Little Ceasers, we used to have one here back when I was in elementry school. It was great. No clue about now since that was nearly 20 years ago ....
I feel old.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-25 02:37:06
any the wonder why police in general have zero tolerance in the field... because they're morons with power? not hard to figure out
no Pizza or Walgreens now apparently...
They've been set ablaze.. calling little ceasars "pizza" is a stretch, more like tasteless fluffed cardboard with toppings. Wow morons with power? You really love putting everyone in the same pot don't you? Apparently there's no honest cops who want to make a difference because Jet apparently says so!
Them being honest or not doesn't refute my statement at all, nor does them wanting to make a difference. Of course there's always exceptions to the rules and you'll get some halfway intelligent cops (Voren here is one, apparently) but pig for pig you'll usually get a moron, because that's what they want, somebody who'll blindly follow orders without question.
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By Voren 2014-11-25 02:38:49
Quetzalcoatl.Gencay said: »just going after the police and the judge who passed the none guilty verdict?
So if every officer is scum and fair game to target that means every civilian is a dirt bag and should be arrested/shot on sight.
It wasn't the judge's decision to not indict, that was the grand jury. But yes the judge should be a target for reading a verdict of a jury selected from the community.
Also, it wasn't a non-guilty verdict because it wasn't a trial. They returned a verdict that found that there was not sufficient probable cause to proceed with charges against the officer. Big difference.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-25 02:39:41
As to the situation though: it's well deserved anger and they have plenty of reason for it, but this isn't the thing I'd riot about, they really should pick there battles more closely, as there's legitimate cases of police being racist *** and young black men dying, where there wasn't a legitimate excuse for it, and between this and the lol "boy with skittles" incident, I'm a bit concerned, as people need to learn to pick their battles better.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-25 02:44:04
Caesar is turning in his grave knowing then named a pizza after him ! It's almost as if they put a knife into his legacy!
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By Voren 2014-11-25 02:50:15
any the wonder why police in general have zero tolerance in the field... because they're morons with power? not hard to figure out
no Pizza or Walgreens now apparently...
They've been set ablaze.. calling little ceasars "pizza" is a stretch, more like tasteless fluffed cardboard with toppings. Wow morons with power? You really love putting everyone in the same pot don't you? Apparently there's no honest cops who want to make a difference because Jet apparently says so!
Them being honest or not doesn't refute my statement at all, nor does them wanting to make a difference. Of course there's always exceptions to the rules and you'll get some halfway intelligent cops (Voren here is one, apparently) but pig for pig you'll usually get a moron, because that's what they want, somebody who'll blindly follow orders without question.
/bow thank you....though I'm only a quarter intelligent, I fake the other quarter.
Jet's actually correct, most cops go on power trips because they're no more than simple juvenile delinquents that have been given a small measure of authority and some dangerous toys to use (tasers are fun, just saying).
To be honest, most, and I do mean most (90% or more) officers take the job because it's one of the few professions where you can make $30-100k a year with decent benefits and a pretty good pension (most retire in 20 years with 75-90% pay) and only need to have a high school diploma or G.E.D. Some of the better paying departments require 60hrs college credit, associates, or bachelors though the latter is few and far between unless we're talking state/federal level. There's at best 10% that want to make a difference in the community and even those that go in wanting to make a difference eventually turn out to be more cynical than those that take the job for the money.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-11-25 03:11:14
Caesar is turning in his grave knowing then named a pizza after him ! It's almost as if they put a knife into his legacy!
By Jetackuu 2014-11-25 03:11:59
A quarter more than the one I dealt with the last time I called a cop for something...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Gencay 2014-11-25 03:20:47
Quetzalcoatl.Gencay said: »just going after the police and the judge who passed the none guilty verdict?
So if every officer is scum and fair game to target that means every civilian is a dirt bag and should be arrested/shot on sight.
It wasn't the judge's decision to not indict, that was the grand jury. But yes the judge should be a target for reading a verdict of a jury selected from the community.
Also, it wasn't a non-guilty verdict because it wasn't a trial. They returned a verdict that found that there was not sufficient probable cause to proceed with charges against the officer. Big difference.
Sorry guess i should of chose my words better just annoyed at all the chaos going on when it won't solve anything yet the idiots causing destruction think it will.
edit and also the other idiots doing it just to steal sh?t
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-11-25 06:14:42
do you have a link or something? i can't find anything supporting that.
Pain in the ***. I bet you didn't even look.
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By Fyyvoaa 2014-11-25 06:34:31
what in the ***...
what did I miss last night?
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-11-25 06:38:44
what in the ***...
what did I miss last night? Millions in property damage for no reason?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 06:43:29
Quote: The St. Louis area was braced for another day of protests on Tuesday after a grand jury cleared a white police officer in the fatal August shooting of an unarmed black teenager, sparking a night of violet and racially charged rioting.
About a dozen buildings in Ferguson, Missouri, burned overnight and police fired tear gas and flash-bang canisters at protesters, said St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar Sixty-one people were also arrested, police added.
Although no serious injuries were reported, Belmar said the rioting on Monday night and early Tuesday morning was "much worse" than disturbances which erupted in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9.
Protests were also staged on Monday night in New York, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Oakland, California, and Washington, D.C., over a case that has highlighted long-standing racial tensions not just in predominantly black Ferguson but across the United States.
Schools in Ferguson and its surrounding cities said they planned not to open on Tuesday. Protesters planned to demonstrate on Tuesday outside the courthouse in Clayton, Missouri, where the grand jury sat.
The rioting came despite calls for calm from officials ranging from Missouri Governor Jay Nixon to President Barack Obama. Activist leaders had spent weeks training protesters in nonviolent civil disobedience techniques and police had also been through conflict de-escalation training, though tempers flared after crowds threw bricks and police and set patrol cars on fire following the grand jury's decision.
Officials disclosed that ruling well after sunset and hours after saying it was coming, a set of circumstances that led to protesters taking to the streets well after dark.
"I didn't see a lot of peaceful protests out there," Belmar said, adding that the rioting was "probably much worse than the worst night" of demonstrations in August following Brown's death.
"Unfortunately, this spun out of control," said Belmar.
St. Louis police reported heavy gunfire late on Monday in the area near where Brown was slain, but Belmar said officers did not fire a shot, even after they were pelted with rocks, bottles, batteries and other debris. St. Louis suburb smolders after racially charged riots
By Ramyrez 2014-11-25 06:56:05
Belmar said the rioting on Monday night and early Tuesday morning was "much worse" than disturbances which erupted in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9.
Hey, it's almost like the criminal element of the community knew what was going to happen, planned appropriately, and managed to pervert what was a legitimate concern by peaceful protesters into something that will instead be even more divisive and feed manufactured racial tensions on both sides of the issue. Manufactured tensions that are also fueling an already-existing, underlying layer of what was already too much tension for starters.
Jesus titty-*** Christ I'm getting sick of mob mentalities controlling this country. On all sides of every issue.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2014-11-25 07:07:24
Hey, it's almost like the criminal element of the community knew what was going to happen, planned appropriately, and managed to pervert what was a legitimate concern by peaceful protesters into something that will instead be even more divisive and feed manufactured racial tensions on both sides of the issue. Manufactured tensions that are also fueling an already-existing, underlying layer of what was already too much tension for starters.
Jesus titty-*** Christ I'm getting sick of mob mentalities controlling this country. On all sides of every issue.
Exactly what drug dealers did here in Brazil a few months ago with that "black blocs" garbage. I see that was inspiration for criminals worldwide. -_-;
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-25 07:08:52
Belmar said the rioting on Monday night and early Tuesday morning was "much worse" than disturbances which erupted in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson on Aug. 9.
Hey, it's almost like the criminal element of the community knew what was going to happen, planned appropriately, and managed to pervert what was a legitimate concern by peaceful protesters into something that will instead be even more divisive and feed manufactured racial tensions on both sides of the issue. Manufactured tensions that are also fueling an already-existing, underlying layer of what was already too much tension for starters.
Jesus titty-*** Christ I'm getting sick of mob mentalities controlling this country. On all sides of every issue. Worst part is, most of the rioters didn't even live there.
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By Voren 2014-11-25 07:10:22
Ferguson's new mantra:
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2014-11-25 07:10:58
Worst part is, most of the rioters didn't even live there.
Same here in Brazil. People clad in black joined peaceful movements to break havoc and make them into rots.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-11-25 07:46:25
When they eventually run out of businesses to burn, I imagine the unemployment rate in Ferguson will be spectacular.
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Time to brace for impact as the grand jury decision draws near.
Quote: St. Louis-area resident Carolyn Colburn opened her front door two nights ago and had a bulletin from the City of Berkeley fall at her feet.
“The grand jury decision regarding the Ferguson police officer shooting of Michael Brown is expected this month — rumored as the middle of November, possibly this week,” warned the “News Alert” from town officials.
“It is important that we all plan ahead in the event that conditions warrant each of us to stay at or very close to our homes for several days,” stated the flier, which Berkeley distributed to 3,000 homes this week.
Berkeley, a bedroom community with 9,000 residents, borders Ferguson, where the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 triggered protests and riots and sparked a nationwide debate on race, policing and justice.
With few businesses in Berkeley, residents like Colburn do their shopping in neighboring Ferguson.
“It is very sad that we have to live in this fear,” Colburn told Yahoo News by email.
No date has been set for the grand jury’s ruling, but St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch has said he expects an announcement in mid- to late November.
Three months ago, 18-year-old Michael Brown’s death led to protests in which demonstrators burned down a gas station, looted liquor stores and clashed violently with police officers.
For the past month, law enforcement leaks to reporters have suggested that a grand jury will not indict Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson for killing Brown.
If that turns out to be the case, Berkeley Mayor Theodore Hoskins told Yahoo News, “it’s possible” the second round of protests will be worse than the first.
“There has been a three-month anger setting up,” said Hoskins, 76. “We get the feeling that there might be something destructive occur. I don't want my residents waking up one morning not knowing what to do.”
So earlier this week, the city of Berkeley began putting tip sheets with safety advice on the doors of every home.
Please make sure your home and family are prepared for a period of disruption, just as you would in the event of a storm,” the city advises.
In addition to suggesting that residents stock up on food, water, gas, medications and other supplies, the advisory says to have contingency plans for picking up children from school and taking care of the elderly.
“Travel to them may not be possible for a few days,” the alert states. “You may want to consider temporarily moving them in with you or others who can assure that their needs are met.”
Hoskins said feedback on the town’s decision has been mostly positive.
“You’ll always have two or three saying you’re creating an alarm that may be unnecessary, and we understand that,” he said.
Berkeley City Hall is four miles from the street where the deadly altercation between the officer and teen took place.
“I never thought that the incident that occurred in August would ever happen in our community,” Hoskins, a Berkeley resident for nearly 50 years, said of the shooting and aftermath. “I was under the impression that everybody had proper training for those types of situations.”
The bulletin suggests that residents load up on nonperishable supplies, especially since it's unknown whether Ferguson’s stores will remain open.
“That's the closest community that we go to, so we are just taking it safe,” Hoskins said.
Colburn was in Ferguson on Wednesday evening and said many businesses have already begun boarding up windows.
“Aggression and unrest are definitely rising,” she said. “I am worried about my son not being able to come home for Thanksgiving break.”
McCulloch, the prosecutor, has said claims of an announcement date or time should be ignored. But Hoskins said he is too close to the situation, with too much at stake, to remain idle.
“It seems to be narrowed down to between now and Monday,” the mayor said. “If anything spills over into our community, then I'll declare an emergency and we will do certain other things to protect our residents.” Ferguson's neighbor warns residents to prepare for the worst
Rumor is they're not going to press charges.
Federal charges appear unlikely in Ferguson police shooting: Washington Post
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