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St. Louis Vs. The Police: Part III Apocalypse Nigh
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:26:47
Considering in the second paragraph of the article, he clearly says he's sorry Brown died...
Quote: Wilson said that he was sorry that Brown had died, but “he would not do anything differently that day,” according to Stephanopoulos. “He did what he was trained to do. He was simply doing his job.”
He did what he was trained to do.
That already shows remorse at a regretful outcome, even if he doesn't regret the actions. He takes no pleasure in it, but would still act accordingly to how he was trained.
Even your own link shows that you're wrong.
I would say that he needs to spend more time on the range as his aim is awful, he should have brought him down with 3 shots to center mass and been done with it.
edit: that being said, to be fair his head was probably ringing from the beating he had just got, so his aim was probably shaky as hell.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-26 15:32:37
Thoae two things are also a snack and a drink.
Cocoa powder and flour are two ingredients for home-made brownies. Which you could put lots of (sometimes illegal) things in.
They can also be used in dust explosions.
There are a huge number of common substances that can be used for obscure, dangerous, or potentially illegal purposes. That's one of thr reasons why it does little good to even mention such irrelevant facts.
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:33:26
Apologizing, and regretting the outcome, shows remorse. Even if one does not regret the actions they were 1. trained to take to save lives from imminent threat to themselves, or the public at large, 2. According to your article, he did show remorse, and was deeply saddened by having to kill, even though he felt it necessary to save his own life.
He also admitted that the actions he took would have been applied to a white person attempting to do the same.
Additionally, you have no experience in the medical profession, nor access to his actual medical records, as you are not his doctor, licensed as one, or even have the basic inkling that damage to the orbital socket will not be seen through the skin or flesh, unless there is a gaping wound there.
People can and have broken bones with little more than a bruise to show for it, until an X-ray is done.
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By volkom 2014-11-26 15:36:22
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:37:06
Being punched in the face by a 290lb 18 year old would make pretty much anyone shaky as ***. That's a lot of force and pressure per square inch upon contact - enough to rattle the brain, and potentially leave it damaged, among other tissue and bone. Being hit where he was, it could also lead to blindness in one or both eyes down the road.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 15:37:07
Thoae two things are also a snack and a drink.
Cocoa powder and flour are two ingredients for home-made brownies. Which you could put lots of (sometimes illegal) things in.
They can also be used in dust explosions.
There are a huge number of common substances that can be used for obscure, dangerous, or potentially illegal purposes. That's one of thr reasons why it does little good to even mention such irrelevant facts.
 That's nice. History of alleged or claimed use doesn't really mean much, particularly from young males. It is one of the (many) reasons why testimonies are extremely weak forms of evidence.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-26 15:37:36
Your text to link here...
Video of that nice young man everybody is up and arms about.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:38:21
I'm mostly disturbed by the fact that somebody was moronic enough to put cash money in his mouth, surprised he hadn't died long ago from disease, money and humans are *** gross. ftfm, as that's apparently not Brown.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-26 15:39:26
That's nice. History of alleged or claimed use doesn't really mean much, particularly from young males. It is one of the (many) reasons why testimonies are extremely weak forms of evidence.
Yeah your right... He probably really wanted some skittles and Arizona ice tea...
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:40:17
Thoae two things are also a snack and a drink.
Cocoa powder and flour are two ingredients for home-made brownies. Which you could put lots of (sometimes illegal) things in.
They can also be used in dust explosions.
There are a huge number of common substances that can be used for obscure, dangerous, or potentially illegal purposes. That's one of thr reasons why it does little good to even mention such irrelevant facts.
 That's nice. History of alleged or claimed use doesn't really mean much, particularly from young males. It is one of the (many) reasons why testimonies are extremely weak forms of evidence. good thing this isn't court, but the *** was still a worthless thug.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:41:01
That's nice. History of alleged or claimed use doesn't really mean much, particularly from young males. It is one of the (many) reasons why testimonies are extremely weak forms of evidence.
Yeah your right... He probably really wanted some skittles and Arizona ice tea... to be fair, I've sold a lot of both over the years, and people usually do consume them in their intended forms.
By volkom 2014-11-26 15:41:31
That's nice. History of alleged or claimed use doesn't really mean much, particularly from young males. It is one of the (many) reasons why testimonies are extremely weak forms of evidence.
Yeah your right... He probably really wanted some skittles and Arizona ice tea... and twinkies
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-26 15:47:26
Same store owner M.Brown stole a box of cigars from the day he died...
Because I guess he had it coming...
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By volkom 2014-11-26 15:48:05
shop owner didn't do a damn thing wrong either.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-11-26 15:49:55
I've seen that picture a bunch of times and every time I keep saying "dude seems to have most of his merch still, its just knocked down."
Look at the back refrigerators. Everything is still stocked.
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By Ragnarok.Leysritt 2014-11-26 15:50:09
Ragnarok.Leysritt said: »Fenrir.Candlejack said: »If that's what you gathered from my statement then I apologize, I know full well that cops are ***, and I've expressed my general disdain for them previously.
I'm for getting rid of stop and frisk and getting rid of all possession charges on drugs as well.
But in the two particular cases of which were being discussed it was two thugs who got shot, not saying the situations didn't stink all around but that's still the truth, and that's irrelevant of their tone of skin, I don't give a *** if they were purple.
Hell I'm probably giving them a little leeway as if they were wight I'd probably call them inbred *** who have poor frontal lobe development, I surely know enough of them, they keep getting locked up and ffs I wish they'd stop letting them out. So it's now a crime to be walking home carrying a bag of skittles. Ok, Batman. Time someone took your weapons away before you hurt someone else.
Skittles and Arizona Watermelon, two ingredients for a home-made PCP-like drug called Lean, just FYI since the kid was serving a suspension from school, and was also carrying a bag with Marijuana residue on it. Thoae two things are also a snack and a drink.
Cocoa powder and flour are two ingredients for home-made brownies. Which you could put lots of (sometimes illegal) things in.
They can also be used in dust explosions.
There are a huge number of common substances that can be used for obscure, dangerous, or potentially illegal purposes. That's one of the reasons why it does little good to even mention such irrelevant facts.
And the fact he has a record with using illegal drugs?
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:53:24
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I've seen that picture a bunch of times and every time I keep saying "dude seems to have most of his merch still, its just knocked down."
Look at the back refrigerators. Everything is still stocked. That's still a good bit of damage, seems to be damaged fixtures as well.
Also: the cooler could use a good stocking.
Hopefully he had insurance.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:55:30
Again: there's no evidence of racism.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 15:56:48
Being punched in the face by a 290lb 18 year old would make pretty much anyone shaky as ***. That's a lot of force and pressure per square inch upon contact - enough to rattle the brain, and potentially leave it damaged, among other tissue and bone. Being hit where he was, it could also lead to blindness in one or both eyes down the road. Being punched squarely in the face by almost anyone can/will shake one up. It also will generally either daze them, or make them enormously pissed off, potentially both.
One thing which strikes me as interesting, and perhaps Voren can weigh in on, is how easy/difficult it is to unholster your sidearm while in a sitting position in such a confined place. I'm under the assumption the seat belt was disengaged, which reduces the difficulty.
*note* i hate touch keyboards
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-11-26 15:56:52
fake
Couldn't find whether the pic is real or not, but Skittles is slang for Coricidin, an OTC medication used in lean. He was not carrying such medication.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:58:43
Hmm, I've always seen those in the capsule like form, never the ones that do actually look like skittles, hmm.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:59:43
*note* i hate touch keyboards I'm having trouble finding a new phone with a physical one, they're just a rare breed anymore.
By volkom 2014-11-26 16:00:52
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Wilson was in his vehicle at the start, when Brown started slugging him. As stated, that's something I'm not going to argue about.
He was just assaulted....what cop wouldn't pull our a weapon for defense just incase.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Wilson had the ability, if he so chose, to roll the window he had down, back up to restrain Brown's arm. Okay. Roll up the window fine. Back up sure. Still has to get out of the car. to restrain the guy.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »There was no need to go right to the gun He was just assaulted....
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »no need to take a life Probably not but the officer did feel that his life was threatened when brown attacked him.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Brown himself put his arm into a situation where a smart, non-racist cop could easily restrain him to take him into custody. A smart non-racist cop would restrain and put the guy into custody but Brown assaulted the officer more than once. Maybe it could've have had a different outcome but fight or flight
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 16:03:42
We need Stephen Colbert on the case, because he doesn't see race!
I would like to argue that any sane person being slugged in the face by a 290 pound person, isn't going to be in the right frame of mind at all, particularly when they have reason to believe their life is in danger.
There was no reason for Brown to go up to, and slug a sitting officer in the face - it's not something sane people do.
You threaten a person's life by attacking them, they are going to remove the threat by any force they are 1. trained to respond to (if they have any training) 2. Any force they deem necessary to subdue, remove, or Eliminate in order to save their own life, or the lives of people in the vicinity.
But Kooljack has left Sanityville many moons ago.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2014-11-26 16:11:16
Couldn't find whether the pic is real or not, but Skittles is slang for Coricidin, an OTC medication used in lean. He was not carrying such medication.
People have been using jolly ranchers and sprite and other forms to make different types of lean. I'm talking Nerds and grape soda, Sour straws and snapples, etc... using cough syrup.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-11-26 16:14:41
So somebody facing a murder charge says he acted in self-defense, huh?
Well, I do believe we've cracked this case wide open!
By volkom 2014-11-26 16:18:44
Time to brace for impact as the grand jury decision draws near.
Quote: St. Louis-area resident Carolyn Colburn opened her front door two nights ago and had a bulletin from the City of Berkeley fall at her feet.
“The grand jury decision regarding the Ferguson police officer shooting of Michael Brown is expected this month — rumored as the middle of November, possibly this week,” warned the “News Alert” from town officials.
“It is important that we all plan ahead in the event that conditions warrant each of us to stay at or very close to our homes for several days,” stated the flier, which Berkeley distributed to 3,000 homes this week.
Berkeley, a bedroom community with 9,000 residents, borders Ferguson, where the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 triggered protests and riots and sparked a nationwide debate on race, policing and justice.
With few businesses in Berkeley, residents like Colburn do their shopping in neighboring Ferguson.
“It is very sad that we have to live in this fear,” Colburn told Yahoo News by email.
No date has been set for the grand jury’s ruling, but St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch has said he expects an announcement in mid- to late November.
Three months ago, 18-year-old Michael Brown’s death led to protests in which demonstrators burned down a gas station, looted liquor stores and clashed violently with police officers.
For the past month, law enforcement leaks to reporters have suggested that a grand jury will not indict Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson for killing Brown.
If that turns out to be the case, Berkeley Mayor Theodore Hoskins told Yahoo News, “it’s possible” the second round of protests will be worse than the first.
“There has been a three-month anger setting up,” said Hoskins, 76. “We get the feeling that there might be something destructive occur. I don't want my residents waking up one morning not knowing what to do.”
So earlier this week, the city of Berkeley began putting tip sheets with safety advice on the doors of every home.
Please make sure your home and family are prepared for a period of disruption, just as you would in the event of a storm,” the city advises.
In addition to suggesting that residents stock up on food, water, gas, medications and other supplies, the advisory says to have contingency plans for picking up children from school and taking care of the elderly.
“Travel to them may not be possible for a few days,” the alert states. “You may want to consider temporarily moving them in with you or others who can assure that their needs are met.”
Hoskins said feedback on the town’s decision has been mostly positive.
“You’ll always have two or three saying you’re creating an alarm that may be unnecessary, and we understand that,” he said.
Berkeley City Hall is four miles from the street where the deadly altercation between the officer and teen took place.
“I never thought that the incident that occurred in August would ever happen in our community,” Hoskins, a Berkeley resident for nearly 50 years, said of the shooting and aftermath. “I was under the impression that everybody had proper training for those types of situations.”
The bulletin suggests that residents load up on nonperishable supplies, especially since it's unknown whether Ferguson’s stores will remain open.
“That's the closest community that we go to, so we are just taking it safe,” Hoskins said.
Colburn was in Ferguson on Wednesday evening and said many businesses have already begun boarding up windows.
“Aggression and unrest are definitely rising,” she said. “I am worried about my son not being able to come home for Thanksgiving break.”
McCulloch, the prosecutor, has said claims of an announcement date or time should be ignored. But Hoskins said he is too close to the situation, with too much at stake, to remain idle.
“It seems to be narrowed down to between now and Monday,” the mayor said. “If anything spills over into our community, then I'll declare an emergency and we will do certain other things to protect our residents.” Ferguson's neighbor warns residents to prepare for the worst
Rumor is they're not going to press charges.
Federal charges appear unlikely in Ferguson police shooting: Washington Post
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