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St. Louis Vs. The Police: Part III Apocalypse Nigh
Ragnarok.Leysritt
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By Ragnarok.Leysritt 2014-11-26 14:46:59
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »If that's what you gathered from my statement then I apologize, I know full well that cops are ***, and I've expressed my general disdain for them previously.
I'm for getting rid of stop and frisk and getting rid of all possession charges on drugs as well.
But in the two particular cases of which were being discussed it was two thugs who got shot, not saying the situations didn't stink all around but that's still the truth, and that's irrelevant of their tone of skin, I don't give a *** if they were purple.
Hell I'm probably giving them a little leeway as if they were wight I'd probably call them inbred *** who have poor frontal lobe development, I surely know enough of them, they keep getting locked up and ffs I wish they'd stop letting them out. So it's now a crime to be walking home carrying a bag of skittles. Ok, Batman. Time someone took your weapons away before you hurt someone else.
Skittles and Arizona Watermelon, two ingredients for a home-made PCP-like drug called Lean, just FYI since the kid was serving a suspension from school, and was also carrying a bag with Marijuana residue on it.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-11-26 14:48:55
Residue?!
-clutches pearls-
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 14:49:47
Last I checked it was a crime to bash somebody's head into the pavement, last I checked it was a crime to smoke pot in Florida.
But go with the crazed vigilante crack, it makes you look soooo cool.
Come and try to take something from me, see what happens.
Ragnarok.Leysritt
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By Ragnarok.Leysritt 2014-11-26 14:51:43
Last I checked it was a crime to bash somebody's head into the pavement, last I checked it was a crime to smoke pot in Florida.
But go with the crazed vigilante crack, it makes you look soooo cool.
Come and try to take something from me, see what happens.
Why was such force necessary though Jet? This ***isn't as black and white as you think it is. Even if I was a screaming racist, I wouldn't try to do that much to someone just because I don't like their ethnicity.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 14:52:30
Residue?!
-clutches pearls- ha
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 14:53:08
Ragnarok.Leysritt said: »Last I checked it was a crime to bash somebody's head into the pavement, last I checked it was a crime to smoke pot in Florida.
But go with the crazed vigilante crack, it makes you look soooo cool.
Come and try to take something from me, see what happens.
Why was such force necessary though Jet? This ***isn't as black and white as you think it is. Even if I was a screaming racist, I wouldn't try to do that much to someone just because I don't like their ethnicity. What? shooting somebody who's trying to kill you? Oh I don't know why such force is necessary...
are you being serious?
edit: I never said anyone is or wasn't a racist, but I don't see evidence of either of these situations having really a damn thing to do about race, other than the media trying to make it so.
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Ragnarok.Leysritt
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By Ragnarok.Leysritt 2014-11-26 14:57:11
Ragnarok.Leysritt said: »Last I checked it was a crime to bash somebody's head into the pavement, last I checked it was a crime to smoke pot in Florida.
But go with the crazed vigilante crack, it makes you look soooo cool.
Come and try to take something from me, see what happens.
Why was such force necessary though Jet? This ***isn't as black and white as you think it is. Even if I was a screaming racist, I wouldn't try to do that much to someone just because I don't like their ethnicity. What? shooting somebody who's trying to kill you? Oh I don't know why such force is necessary...
are you being serious?
edit: I never said anyone is or wasn't a racist, but I don't see evidence of either of these situations having really a damn thing to do about race, other than the media trying to make it so.
The Zimmerman case: Overly hyped due to the media and social media thinking it was a racial hate crime.
Ferguson case: Overly hyped by people not even from Ferguson, African American male gets shot by a white cop (two strikes by most people in impoverished places), the media sure liked to twist that one up and send it back to the public, and I bet right now people like Nancy Grace are just livid because the prosecutors don't have enough evidence to justify even a civil case.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:01:48
Assaulting someone carrying a gun is madness. indeed, I question whether or not these individuals had other deeper issues, as holy ***...
I definitely wouldn't start a fight with a cop through his car window.
That being said: I have sense enough to not walk in the damn street if there's a sidewalk...
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:04:01
Try starting a fight with a Canadian cop - it's a bigger crime to steal his timbits than his gun!
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:04:54
Try starting a fight with a Canadian cop - it's a bigger crime to steal his timbits than his gun!
That'd just be stupid, he could just hunt them down by the smell.
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:06:07
Only with Drug and Timbit sniffing dogs.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:08:04
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Last I checked it was a crime to bash somebody's head into the pavement, last I checked it was a crime to smoke pot in Florida.
But go with the crazed vigilante crack, it makes you look soooo cool.
Come and try to take something from me, see what happens. Last I checked, it was a crime to execute another human being in cold blood without the benefit of a trial to determine if the person in question is innocent or not (also known as murder). Last I knew, it was a crime to threaten another person with the use of physical violence (criminal menacing, breach of peace). Good thing that didn't happen, neither one.
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By volkom 2014-11-26 15:08:58
I'm pretty sure the guy wasn't executed. There's a distinct difference
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:10:30
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »I don't know what is. we know this already
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:13:20
But Justified Homicide is not a crime, if there is reason to believe of an imminent threat to your safety and well-being from an assailant.
How many times does this have to be repeated?
There is no viable evidence of Officer Wilson threatening Brown with physical violence.
Considering Brown's mother has a rap sheet a mile long for the exact same kind of behavior exhibited by Brown, and his step-father also had a rap sheet a mile long.
Brown was kicked out of his Grandmother's place for this kind of violent behavior, drug use, and gang affiliation, after his mother kicked him out of his home.
Additionally, Wilson has stated over and over with actual remorse, that he regrets what happened to Brown. There is no form of evidence to support it was done maliciously, or in "cold blood". So, try pulling your head out of your *** long enough to actually read further than the god damn headlines.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2014-11-26 15:14:37
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Lessee, Wilson emptied his gun into the dude, right? If that's clearly not an execution killing, I don't know what is.
ts was the farthest thing from an execution. there was zero forethought, & very little thought at the time of the event, barring fear.
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:14:39
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »I'm pretty sure the guy wasn't executed. There's a distinct difference Lessee, Wilson emptied his gun into the dude, right? If that's clearly not an execution killing, I don't know what is. Clearly you have no idea what an Execution style killing is.
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 15:16:31

6', 215lbs, armed with whatever equipment a typical patrol car in Missouri is equipped with and IN said patrol car.
Such ow. Must shoot. That isn't a broken orbital socket, I think. The only one with a destroyed eye was Michael.
Also, dude didn't file an incident report until a fairly significant amount of time has passed after the event, which is a Class A Misdemeanor in Missouri. Penalty for Class A Misdemeanors – up to one year in jail or a fine up to $1,000, or both.
Also also, there have been numerous autopsies released and every forensic analyst and their mothers are arguing over which interpretation is correct.
Everyone agrees there was a struggle at the car. However, there's no evidence, besides Wilsons testimony, supporting Michael going for the gun. Or that if he did, that the gun wasn't already drawn.
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 15:18:29
Additionally, Wilson has stated over and over with actual remorse, that he regrets what happened to Brown. There is no form of evidence to support it was done maliciously, or in "cold blood". So, try pulling your head out of your *** long enough to actually read further than the god damn headlines. Uh, no. He said the exact opposite in a recent interview. No remorse/regret and he'd do everything the same way again.
By Bloodrose 2014-11-26 15:22:29
Considering in the second paragraph of the article, he clearly says he's sorry Brown died...
Quote: Wilson said that he was sorry that Brown had died, but “he would not do anything differently that day,” according to Stephanopoulos. “He did what he was trained to do. He was simply doing his job.”
He did what he was trained to do.
That already shows remorse at a regretful outcome, even if he doesn't regret the actions. He takes no pleasure in it, but would still act accordingly to how he was trained.
Even your own link shows that you're wrong.
By volkom 2014-11-26 15:23:25
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-11-26 15:24:14
Ragnarok.Leysritt said: »Fenrir.Candlejack said: »If that's what you gathered from my statement then I apologize, I know full well that cops are ***, and I've expressed my general disdain for them previously.
I'm for getting rid of stop and frisk and getting rid of all possession charges on drugs as well.
But in the two particular cases of which were being discussed it was two thugs who got shot, not saying the situations didn't stink all around but that's still the truth, and that's irrelevant of their tone of skin, I don't give a *** if they were purple.
Hell I'm probably giving them a little leeway as if they were wight I'd probably call them inbred *** who have poor frontal lobe development, I surely know enough of them, they keep getting locked up and ffs I wish they'd stop letting them out. So it's now a crime to be walking home carrying a bag of skittles. Ok, Batman. Time someone took your weapons away before you hurt someone else.
Skittles and Arizona Watermelon, two ingredients for a home-made PCP-like drug called Lean, just FYI since the kid was serving a suspension from school, and was also carrying a bag with Marijuana residue on it. Thoae two things are also a snack and a drink.
Cocoa powder and flour are two ingredients for home-made brownies. Which you could put lots of (sometimes illegal) things in.
They can also be used in dust explosions.
There are a huge number of common substances that can be used for obscure, dangerous, or potentially illegal purposes. That's one of the reasons why it does little good to even mention such irrelevant facts.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 15:24:52
ITT: Being a 'thug' means you deserve to die.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:25:22
I'm mostly disturbed by the fact that he was moronic enough to put cash money in his mouth, surprised he hadn't died long ago from disease, money and humans are *** gross.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 15:25:55
ITT: Being a 'thug' means you deserve to die. It does when you act that way and start attacking people that are armed.
By volkom 2014-11-26 15:26:02
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »I'm pretty sure the guy wasn't executed. There's a distinct difference Lessee, Wilson emptied his gun into the dude, right? If that's clearly not an execution killing, I don't know what is. Clearly you have no idea what an Execution style killing is.
For a better understanding...
Ragnarok.Raenil
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-11-26 15:26:25
Considering in the second paragraph of the article, he clearly says he's sorry Brown died...
Quote: Wilson said that he was sorry that Brown had died, but “he would not do anything differently that day,” according to Stephanopoulos. “He did what he was trained to do. He was simply doing his job.”
He did what he was trained to do.
That already shows remorse at a regretful outcome, even if he doesn't regret the actions. He takes no pleasure in it, but would still act accordingly to how he was trained.
Even your own link shows that you're wrong. "Whoops, sorry!" isn't remorse.
Time to brace for impact as the grand jury decision draws near.
Quote: St. Louis-area resident Carolyn Colburn opened her front door two nights ago and had a bulletin from the City of Berkeley fall at her feet.
“The grand jury decision regarding the Ferguson police officer shooting of Michael Brown is expected this month — rumored as the middle of November, possibly this week,” warned the “News Alert” from town officials.
“It is important that we all plan ahead in the event that conditions warrant each of us to stay at or very close to our homes for several days,” stated the flier, which Berkeley distributed to 3,000 homes this week.
Berkeley, a bedroom community with 9,000 residents, borders Ferguson, where the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 triggered protests and riots and sparked a nationwide debate on race, policing and justice.
With few businesses in Berkeley, residents like Colburn do their shopping in neighboring Ferguson.
“It is very sad that we have to live in this fear,” Colburn told Yahoo News by email.
No date has been set for the grand jury’s ruling, but St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch has said he expects an announcement in mid- to late November.
Three months ago, 18-year-old Michael Brown’s death led to protests in which demonstrators burned down a gas station, looted liquor stores and clashed violently with police officers.
For the past month, law enforcement leaks to reporters have suggested that a grand jury will not indict Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson for killing Brown.
If that turns out to be the case, Berkeley Mayor Theodore Hoskins told Yahoo News, “it’s possible” the second round of protests will be worse than the first.
“There has been a three-month anger setting up,” said Hoskins, 76. “We get the feeling that there might be something destructive occur. I don't want my residents waking up one morning not knowing what to do.”
So earlier this week, the city of Berkeley began putting tip sheets with safety advice on the doors of every home.
Please make sure your home and family are prepared for a period of disruption, just as you would in the event of a storm,” the city advises.
In addition to suggesting that residents stock up on food, water, gas, medications and other supplies, the advisory says to have contingency plans for picking up children from school and taking care of the elderly.
“Travel to them may not be possible for a few days,” the alert states. “You may want to consider temporarily moving them in with you or others who can assure that their needs are met.”
Hoskins said feedback on the town’s decision has been mostly positive.
“You’ll always have two or three saying you’re creating an alarm that may be unnecessary, and we understand that,” he said.
Berkeley City Hall is four miles from the street where the deadly altercation between the officer and teen took place.
“I never thought that the incident that occurred in August would ever happen in our community,” Hoskins, a Berkeley resident for nearly 50 years, said of the shooting and aftermath. “I was under the impression that everybody had proper training for those types of situations.”
The bulletin suggests that residents load up on nonperishable supplies, especially since it's unknown whether Ferguson’s stores will remain open.
“That's the closest community that we go to, so we are just taking it safe,” Hoskins said.
Colburn was in Ferguson on Wednesday evening and said many businesses have already begun boarding up windows.
“Aggression and unrest are definitely rising,” she said. “I am worried about my son not being able to come home for Thanksgiving break.”
McCulloch, the prosecutor, has said claims of an announcement date or time should be ignored. But Hoskins said he is too close to the situation, with too much at stake, to remain idle.
“It seems to be narrowed down to between now and Monday,” the mayor said. “If anything spills over into our community, then I'll declare an emergency and we will do certain other things to protect our residents.” Ferguson's neighbor warns residents to prepare for the worst
Rumor is they're not going to press charges.
Federal charges appear unlikely in Ferguson police shooting: Washington Post
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