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 Lakshmi.Bshizzle
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By Lakshmi.Bshizzle 2009-08-14 02:21:26
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Can someone explain how somebody could get the gil to buy 15 imperial wootz ingots at one time?
I mean I know you can buy gil, but that much would be a ton of RL money.

If you look on the sales history, there's multiple people doing this.
How do people get that much gil?
 Garuda.Athila
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By Garuda.Athila 2009-08-14 02:27:24
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saving(crafting) over a long time/ lots of mules that craft/ borrow money/ end game events that have bank split/ mass farming(lol)/ selling ra/ex shitz/ ummm/ and bro.game/ anyone feel free to jump in here.
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By Gilgamesh.Deathsshadow 2009-08-14 02:28:48
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hnm/znm if u sell items net alot of cash as well
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-08-14 02:33:41
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There's a reason that HNM shells put so much time and dedication (almost like a job even) into FFXI. There's also a reason they are so hardcore and picky and tend to be major ***.

A good HNM/endgame shell can probably pull over 2 million gil a day and that's me being modest with some restraint. I wouldn't be surprised if some shells pulled in 5 million plus a day.

With so much salvage going on these days shells probably pay for the gear materials for people since most of the it is a substantial boost and image to their shell.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-14 02:41:07
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Stealing your lss bank and server hopping...
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 Ramuh.Kiriyu
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By Ramuh.Kiriyu 2009-08-14 02:42:57
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Believe it or not, some people save up!

Then just dump it all at once.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-08-14 02:47:41
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Kiriyu said:
Believe it or not, some people save up!

Then just dump it all at once.

Sounds like someone taking a big poo and hurray for more kiri rl avi... but yeah I like make 300k ish a day if I go till fatigue on fishing... then bam bye something big
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By Seraph.Helixx 2009-08-14 02:47:52
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Monopilizing NM's/market, Selling Items that normal people cannot obtain, Sell Ra/Ex gear, Mercenary jobs, SMN-burn leveling, Farming, Crafting, Mining, BCNM/KSNM.

Plus there is a lot of gil created. Recently came back from a sky run and sold all small drops (crystals, mercury, scrolls) an got 20k (!).

However getting that 17m (current price) to buy the Salvage body is still crazy. you would need a group of peoplel dedicated to help you!
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2009-08-14 03:00:03
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Depends. Personally I could make ~4~5M a week with ease, depending on luck/laziness and the number of people I go out with.

ENM's are a forgotten gold mine =P

Hagun, trio is nearly 1M.

Then there's Hedgehog Bomb's, Gigant Mantle, Forager's Mantle. Then you get little things like Galateia that were around the 100k mark (I don't imagine it changing much across servers) last I checked.

Not to mention Merit PT's alone can bring in a decent money. Depending on invent, 10 stacks of wind crystals is ~8k, Colibri feathers NPC for around 1.2~1.5k/stack. It all adds up =P I know people that've walked away from Merit PT's and NPC'd everything for nearly 15k, kinda worried about what gear changes they have >_>;

Then there's ISP from Merit PT's that can be used to do ISNM and sell Bronze/Silver/Gold pieces.

But yeah, a lot of the gil comes from Monopolizing NM's and such. If you can find a NM that you and a couple of friends can kill that has a decent drop then you'll be able to make a mint.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-08-14 03:57:29
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Hitetsu said:
Depends. Personally I could make ~4~5M a week with ease, depending on luck/laziness and the number of people I go out with.

ENM's are a forgotten gold mine =P

Hagun, trio is nearly 1M.

Then there's Hedgehog Bomb's, Gigant Mantle, Forager's Mantle. Then you get little things like Galateia that were around the 100k mark (I don't imagine it changing much across servers) last I checked.

Not to mention Merit PT's alone can bring in a decent money. Depending on invent, 10 stacks of wind crystals is ~8k, Colibri feathers NPC for around 1.2~1.5k/stack. It all adds up =P I know people that've walked away from Merit PT's and NPC'd everything for nearly 15k, kinda worried about what gear changes they have >_>;

Then there's ISP from Merit PT's that can be used to do ISNM and sell Bronze/Silver/Gold pieces.

But yeah, a lot of the gil comes from Monopolizing NM's and such. If you can find a NM that you and a couple of friends can kill that has a decent drop then you'll be able to make a mint.


Take a note pad on that, you'd be surprised how well those things work out lol. I can admit i do at least half of those myself and I'm never too broke to afford things i want :)
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By Bahamut.Memimi 2009-08-14 04:02:07
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ya, I funded a lot of stuff through the nms. Serket is quite an easy kill if you get some good friends. pld/dnc, brd/whm, and rng/nin where the ranger shot paralysis arrows, demon arrows, and some different bolts to debuff for us. I could also stick slow /whm pretty easy. We never even got close to dead at all. Those rings paid for a lot of nice COR gear as well as a lot of nice drg and blm upgrades.

A few weeks of that alone, or less if you get lucky in isnm makes it fairly easy to come up with that much gil.
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By Garuda.Athila 2009-08-14 04:04:52
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spam ISNM atm if you can haz lucky, 500k K ore guuu :D
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2009-08-14 04:22:56
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Oh yeah, another useful tip for saving money. If you AH your crystals, put them up in Sandy/Windy/Bastok if you can, saves around 200g per stack!

It's not much, but it helps little by little =P

I have to confess, I don't really do much to make money anymore XD Last time I did ENM was around 3 months ago, though I'm running to Hagun ENM right now XD Hopefully get double Hagun drop!

Don't forget Promyvion ENM's, DRK DRK BRD can Trio all 3 if I remember right, and as always, SMN are awesome for them. Best thing is, you can make ~400-500k ish each at Lv.30! Depending on how many go.

If you really want to make a LS Event that people won't forget, get a few people to farm some garrison pop items! Garrisons were loads of fun when I used to do them, but alas.. no-one does them now ; ;
 Garuda.Athila
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By Garuda.Athila 2009-08-14 04:28:00
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zomg D: garrison was so much fun way back in the day. wonder why no1 does that anymore :/ lame. or eco-warrior too!
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By Valefor.Opia 2009-08-14 06:29:09
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Nobody does them anymore because it doesn't net the amounts of gil it used to. That's the case on Valefor anyway. The shell I'm in now used to spam garrisons doing like 8 or 9 a week. I miss the good ole days...
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 Garuda.Antipika
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-08-14 07:04:10
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Hitetsu said:
Depends. Personally I could make ~4~5M a week with ease, depending on luck/laziness and the number of people I go out with.
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So you ain't making 4-5M a week. Depending on luck means nothing. Need to average that. You ain't seeing a Hagun every week, neither seeing a good drop in all ENM you're allowed to do every 5 days. Take the %drop rate, and multiply it by the price of the item. I.E you trio hagun once a week, Hagun is 3M, drop rate is 10%, you're making 100K a week with that item. Same goes for mantle etc.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2009-08-14 07:08:10
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I actually went 10/10 on Hagun.. >_>

Then 0/30something

I also didn't say I made 4-5M a week, I said I could.
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By Gilgamesh.Tallulah 2009-08-14 07:25:34
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gil over time if you don't have a 100 craft.
the people who can drop 20-50mil in one shot probably have a 100 craft.
..and i hate them all.

P.S. Hate you Hitetsu. 10/10. FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
I'm currently amidst the 0/???? run and I can barely ever get people to do it.
Rage! ;;
 Garuda.Antipika
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By Garuda.Antipika 2009-08-14 07:26:20
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No you can't. Otherwise let's just make stupid assumption like I could make 70M a week since I can do Up in Arms twice a week.
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-08-14 07:32:38
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Gotta side with Antipika on this one. You're saying you could make 4-5mil a week, but that's IF you get the best drops on all of those ENM's that you do, which is extremely highly unlikely. 95% of people that do all those ENM's every chance they get would probably have an average income of about 300k a week from them, not 4-5mil.
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By Bahamut.Kosaka 2009-08-14 07:37:11
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Also you can't forget the new markets of the pixiy weapons before they trickled down. 400-350k a rindomaru when people were bum rushing out to the quest fight and to test it. The materials really were easy to get. And swamp ore 50k a pop before it flooded the ah. Some people made out like bandits. Then also by getting a digging choco and digging for elemental ores, plus with a quick desynth run to moblin land a high level crafter could come out with a stack of gold in less then an hour. It is not easy or cheap to get to the point to rake in money like that but in that same reguard it is a game where you can have alot of down time so you could just wisk off to some god forsaken place (Here is looking at you Castle Zvahl Baileys) with some choice friends blaze through it looking for a coffer key for giggles and walk out with a stack of merc, demon horns, and random spells and be back in time for ls events. The trick is doing it systematically like fish mongers. They fish enough to get there x stacks onto the ah every day and then go about their business.
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By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2009-08-14 07:55:32
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Then you get weeks on end where you get nothing but Kejusu Satin!

If that crap were useful I'd be rich ; ;
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-08-14 08:01:35
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I'd imagine if I was a bit more productive I would have more gil, but as it stands right now I can barely keep 1k on me lol.

It's all good though in my book, since I have ok gear and am working on getting more (I tend to save up my gil and buy high ticket items when I can)
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By Gilgamesh.Tallulah 2009-08-14 08:30:14
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Only thing I really abhore about this game is that SE limits the amount of gil you can get. Between them introducing so many anti-RMT measures that hurt the normal players so much I am surprised I ever have any gil at all. Just about everything that is a good money maker is limited by SE to some extent. Talking about farming generally and not BCNMs. I'm honestly surprised SE hasn't introduced a 1/BC/KS/etc per earth day policy.
If you're solo and want to make gil then you need to suck it up and accept it's going to take forever to make any decent amount of gil.
Yes, I am bitter!
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By Pandemonium.Wickster 2009-08-14 09:24:19
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I tend to hold out for the in game events i.e. Valentino's and Halloween. Being a cook (level 75 on mule) cookies, pies, and chocolates make me enough gil to bridge the gap between the 2 holidays. So long as you stay away from Windy and setup shops in Sandy & Bastok. Nothing to be made but sweet, sweet gil. I also tend to buy out any competitors and resell their supplies in an attempt to corner the market, leaving 2 choices for buyers................ Me or the AH!
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-08-14 10:14:56
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I have a good chunk of change saved on a mule but NPCing stuff from exp parties, selling random gear I have laying around and with sky payouts, I hover around 400k-600k consistently. Leveling RNG is changing that a bit but not by much.

I honestly don't know how I keep my funds up sometimes lol.
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-08-14 10:25:51
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I usually keep around 300-600 on me at any given time (since I've been doing maat fights I'm down to ~100k). But the majority of my money I keep on my afk mule so I don't impulse buy ***. I think its sitting around 3.5m atm. The most gil I've ever had at any given time is around 4-4.5m.

I've created a non-public item set on ffxiah and listed all my sellable gear (that's over 100k each) I've collected in the 3 years I've played and its sitting at 24,628,289 Gil. Then there is non AH stuff like novio which could fetch another 10-15m. I could be one of those people who buy full salvage body if I sold everything, but it's just not worth it to me to sell gear for the jobs I play for once piece of armor that'll probably get outdated like everything else =)

The way I've made gil is just crafting, farming, NPCing garbage items, buying stuff low from bazaars and selling high, killing NMs, BCNMs etc. I've never really done HNMs or had a linkshell that regularly pays out members. So almost all of that gil/items has just been from me playing the game. Nothing special.
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By Pandemonium.Aravol 2009-08-14 10:47:45
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I get my gil the old fashioned way. Farm, sell campaign drops and recycle gear when its out dated.
I only have around 600k.
I have almost 2 lvl 75 jobs and have never done dynamis (due to being at work when events go on) or any other event.
farm, farm, farm. Never killed a big money NM for big cash.
And i somehow mandaged to lvl nin. Buying Utsusemi:Ni.
Yeah for me it was tedious but u haveto do what u have to do and i still have a great time.
If it is one thing i need its a big gil making strategy , lol.
It is baffling to see how some people get sooo much gil.
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By Fairy.Outhit 2009-08-14 11:58:07
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Hitetsu said:
Depends. Personally I could make ~4~5M a week with ease, depending on luck/laziness and the number of people I go out with.

ENM's are a forgotten gold mine =P

Hagun, trio is nearly 1M.

Then there's Hedgehog Bomb's, Gigant Mantle, Forager's Mantle. Then you get little things like Galateia that were around the 100k mark (I don't imagine it changing much across servers) last I checked.

Not to mention Merit PT's alone can bring in a decent money. Depending on invent, 10 stacks of wind crystals is ~8k, Colibri feathers NPC for around 1.2~1.5k/stack. It all adds up =P I know people that've walked away from Merit PT's and NPC'd everything for nearly 15k, kinda worried about what gear changes they have >_>;

Then there's ISP from Merit PT's that can be used to do ISNM and sell Bronze/Silver/Gold pieces.

But yeah, a lot of the gil comes from Monopolizing NM's and such. If you can find a NM that you and a couple of friends can kill that has a decent drop then you'll be able to make a mint.


Even if you are unlucky with drops, doing this will net you enough gil to survive. AHing crystals/npcing merit drops may seem worthless, but my mule has managed to save up over 3mil doing this.
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By Fenrir.Magicstick 2009-08-14 12:56:36
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Its easy to make gil in FFXI....

* Enm (Rare Drop / 1m+ with low numbers)
* HNM (Lots of time invested / 1-3m per month depending on commitment)
* NM (Low numbers fight / 1-2m+ per week)
* ANNM (Had 2x Imp Wootz in one pool 300k Each)
* BCNM (YOYD.... PCC 2.1m Utsusemi: Ni 400k... I've seen 4/6 on PCC)
* KSNM (Speed Blet, Strider Boots, and more...)
* ISNM (Up to 400k+)
* Union (100 Bills / Divine Lumber ect... Good Luck)
* Selling ISP/CP/AN bought items. (Not much gil but you can do decent)
* Farming (Can easily get 500,000gil-1,000,000gil per day)
* Rare/Ex Item Sales (Mostly HNM LS sales)
* Power Leveling (Was a guy that payed 1m 60-63)
* Crafting (A few people I know have multiple 100 Crafts / 500k-1m+++ Depending on HQ/Farming Mats/Investments)
* Chocobo Digging (I've seen 500k+ Per Day)
* Fishing (100k+ per Day)
* Mining (400k+ Khroma Ore)
* Logging (Jacaranda Log 100k+)
* Harvesting
* Excavation
* Tele-Taxi / Retrace / D2
* Devil Mantha Fishing (500k++ Angel Skin)

Just a few examples... Happy Gil Making ^^
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