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execute woman - starving & abusing 9-year-old
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-17 16:45:03
Quote: Texas set to execute woman convicted of starving 9-year-old
(Reuters) - A woman convicted of the 2004 starving death of a 9-year-old boy is scheduled to die on Wednesday by lethal injection at a Texas state prison, authorities said.
Lisa Ann Coleman, 38, would be the second woman executed in the United States this year and the 15th since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976.
Coleman is scheduled to be put to death after 6 p.m. Central Time (7 p.m. EDT) at the state's death chamber in Huntsville. She would also be the 517th prisoner put to death in Texas, the most of any state since 1976.
Investigators were called to Coleman's house in July 2004, where they found Davontae Williams dead with a disfigured ear, swollen hands and ligature marks on his wrists and ankles, according to court records.
An autopsy determined that Williams, son of Coleman's long-time girlfriend, Marcella Williams, had died from malnutrition and pneumonia and weighed just 35 pounds, court records said.
He had been beaten with a golf club and bound by an extension cord, investigators found. His body also showed signs of having been treated with over-the-counter medications, ointments, creams and bandages, court records said.
There was evidence that suggested he was fed chicken noodle soup and Pedialyte before he died, but a doctor testified that the food he received was "inadequate ... too late, and possibly too much," court records said.
Coleman was convicted of capital murder by a jury in 2006 and sentenced to death. Williams also was convicted of capital murder. Williams was sentenced to life in prison and is eligible for parole in 30 years, according to prison records.
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Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-09-17 16:47:02
Passe, but sums up my thoughts.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-09-17 16:58:27
There are certain cases that make me question the death penalty. This is not one of them.
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Bismarck.Bloodrose
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-17 17:01:50
Seems like the Death Penalty was reinstated just for this.
No other kind of punishment would have been acceptable, considering the gravity of the situation.
Father of the boy who allowed this to happen should have also received it, instead of life in prison with parole in 30 years.
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Bismarck.Leneth
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2014-09-17 17:05:30
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-17 17:07:23
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
Society should be strong enough TO resort to the death penalty.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-09-17 17:07:54
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison?
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By Asura.Triffle 2014-09-17 17:10:02
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
Instead of the death penalty what would you do?
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-17 17:11:19
She might be not guilty, is the argument against capital punishment.
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By Leviathan.Xsoahc 2014-09-17 17:11:54
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
Instead of the death penalty what would you do? North Korean labor camp.
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-09-17 17:14:23
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »The state of Texas murders a negro, no one bats an eye.
Some vigilante cop further north murders a negro, everyone... loses their minds.
Please tell me you can see the difference between those two things.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2014-09-17 17:15:06
Aside from if someone has a needle phobia, lethal injection is such a pussy way to do it.
I say expose them to anthrax (not the band, although that could be punishment enough.) and let it run its course.
A needle of "Now Mr/Mrs Jones, you're gonna get realllll sleepy. Goodnight now." seems kinda weak.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-17 17:15:49
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »The state of Texas murders a negro, no one bats an eye.
Some vigilante cop further north murders a negro, everyone... loses their minds.
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By Asura.Triffle 2014-09-17 17:17:12
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
Instead of the death penalty what would you do? North Korean labor camp.
Unfortunately this wasn't in North Korea and I doubt the freedom loving Americans would go for that either. Got to work with what you got.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:17:59
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age. Indeed, it's very uncivilized, and at no time should the state resort to murder.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:18:59
Instead of the death penalty what would you do? Put the *** in prison and keep her there where she belongs.
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison?
Again: it's more expensive to kill them.
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-17 17:19:16
Cases like these are always hard to bear.
While it may be impossible to forgive on a personal level, the society as a whole should be strong enough not to resort to death penalties in this day and age.
Instead of the death penalty what would you do? North Korean labor camp.
Unfortunately this wasn't in North Korea and I doubt the freedom loving Americans would go for that either. Got to work with what you got. Put her in a little boat and send her sea worthy towards NK.
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-17 17:20:17
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison?
Again: it's more expensive to kill them. Not in this case.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:20:58
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »The state of Texas murders a negro, no one bats an eye.
Some vigilante cop further north murders a negro, everyone... loses their minds.
Please tell me you can see the difference between those two things. They're both murder, as much as I hate to agree with him on something.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-17 17:22:17
Instead of the death penalty what would you do? Put the *** in prison and keep her there where she belongs.
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison?
Again: it's more expensive to kill them.
Bullets are cheap. Knife is even cheaper.
Mass stoning would be free'
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-17 17:23:08
The execution is not the expensive part.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-17 17:23:16
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »The state of Texas murders a negro, no one bats an eye.
Some vigilante cop further north murders a negro, everyone... loses their minds.
Please tell me you can see the difference between those two things. They're both murder, as much as I hate to agree with him on something.
Like everything else in life, it comes down to justification. Whether or not we find the act to be justifiable.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-09-17 17:23:49
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison? Again: it's more expensive to kill them.
Actually killing them isn't more expensive. It's everything that leads up to it, thanks to our broken system.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-17 17:23:59
The execution is not the expensive part.
im sure you could get enough volunteers to dig a whole to toss the body'
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:26:04
Too lazy to look further but it seems that not only are the trials more expensive, it costs about 2.3 million dollars to execute somebody in texas (the trial fee may be included in that).
Costs about $62 a day in maximum security in prison (again quick googling, not certain on accuracy), turns out if she lives for 50 years in there it'd come to about just under half the cost of her execution.
So yes, it's cheaper to let them rot in jail than to execute them.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:26:41
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »The state of Texas murders a negro, no one bats an eye.
Some vigilante cop further north murders a negro, everyone... loses their minds.
Please tell me you can see the difference between those two things. They're both murder, as much as I hate to agree with him on something.
Like everything else in life, it comes down to justification. Whether or not we find the act to be justifiable. There's no such thing as justifiable murder, if it were justifiable then it would be homicide, not murder.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:27:07
So society should foot the bill to keep these types of people alive in prison? Again: it's more expensive to kill them.
Actually killing them isn't more expensive. It's everything that leads up to it, thanks to our broken system. It's not broken if it's working as intended, it's not supposed to be easy to charge and convict people with crimes, on purpose.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-17 17:28:09
Don't get me wrong: the *** is a waste of oxygen, I know plenty just the same, but as a civilized society we shouldn't be in the business of murder, they're caught and can't harm society anymore, there's no excuse or justification for killing them.
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Quote: Texas set to execute woman convicted of starving 9-year-old
(Reuters) - A woman convicted of the 2004 starving death of a 9-year-old boy is scheduled to die on Wednesday by lethal injection at a Texas state prison, authorities said.
Lisa Ann Coleman, 38, would be the second woman executed in the United States this year and the 15th since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976.
Coleman is scheduled to be put to death after 6 p.m. Central Time (7 p.m. EDT) at the state's death chamber in Huntsville. She would also be the 517th prisoner put to death in Texas, the most of any state since 1976.
Investigators were called to Coleman's house in July 2004, where they found Davontae Williams dead with a disfigured ear, swollen hands and ligature marks on his wrists and ankles, according to court records.
An autopsy determined that Williams, son of Coleman's long-time girlfriend, Marcella Williams, had died from malnutrition and pneumonia and weighed just 35 pounds, court records said.
He had been beaten with a golf club and bound by an extension cord, investigators found. His body also showed signs of having been treated with over-the-counter medications, ointments, creams and bandages, court records said.
There was evidence that suggested he was fed chicken noodle soup and Pedialyte before he died, but a doctor testified that the food he received was "inadequate ... too late, and possibly too much," court records said.
Coleman was convicted of capital murder by a jury in 2006 and sentenced to death. Williams also was convicted of capital murder. Williams was sentenced to life in prison and is eligible for parole in 30 years, according to prison records.
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