Sigurd's Descendants: The Art Of Dragon Slaying.

I just started DRG, whats a good UpToDate guide out there?

Klaus's guide on BG is a good start.

Er im not sure about that guide honestly... assuming you mean kaius?

They are telling people to that you need to switch gear around to "cap equipment haste" when capped magical and wyvern out with /SAM you only need 17% gear haste to cap. The only one they actually got right is the Naegling haste.

WS sets they cant actually get wrong since they are just copy pasted sets from the All jobs gear sets.

Compared to the other one (Galksomthing), it's alot better and only the two exist. The high end sets are a good starting point and tge info on the job is solid. Could be the haste cap was supposed to reference when your wyvern is dead. At any rate, it's not horrible though it's not the drg Bible either.

Seeing this reminded me I intended to add my sets to the community guide after he who shall not be named nuked the previous guide. I've added them now if anyone thinks they're more useful than the other two mentioned, great! If there's any very obvious changes someone sees that should be made on a slot that I just for some reason didn't realize lemme know. At some point I'll go back and make a progression tier of like Starting 119-> Starting Odyssey.

I didn't see this mentioned, and all the engaged sets cap haste or specifically state why it isn't capped. Maybe I missed this reference, or he edited the sets afterwards and forgot to fix that line? Idk, the guide overall looks solid to me.


it's still referenced at the bottom of Kaius's guide using an archived version.

Ooh did not know that, good to know, may use that to work on the general community guide later.

Ah i see its above the gear sets, I went straight to the gear sets instead which is probably what most people would do.

Your sets look good. I will say personally for me i do not use relic mail at all in my jump sets. Empy 3 body all the way but tgat just personal preference.

He also has a unique Cataclysm build that uses Blurred Staff +1, not listed on the All Jobs Sets/Dragoon page. I'm usually one to minmax, but I never noticed DRG can use this OAT weapon and never thought of that over Malignance Pole (which I alwyays carry). So that is different and interesting.

Does anybody know if the "Wyvern: Absorbs damage taken +6%" stat on Emicho Gambieras +1 stacks with the same term on the Peltast's Mezail +3 (+18%)? Normally, absorb gear doesn't stack for players, but wondering if they ignored this rule for pets, and wyverns can get a +24% absorb chance.

I feel like I've either attempted to test this or something closely related in the past.. I can recall letting a bunch of chigoes hit my wyvern while wearing the mezail... but I can't recall anything else, nor can I find any documentation or bookmarked posts. Couldn't find anything on JP wiki either. If there's testing, it's probably in a random twitter post that I'll never find.

My poor memory aside, Good question! Not sure, and I don't know of any testing on it. My emicho feet are on a mule atm, and I'm just... still hanging around online after the free login period. rofl. If I resub after the update, I might test it.

I can test it via super jump/link an aggro and let my wyvern take hits when I have time, i was just curious on it. I would make a rare toggle for when I really need my wyvern to heal up and Restoring Breath/Bond and Spirit Link is down. ~1/4 hits netting a wyvern heal is kind of a neat trick

Oh, the linking is a really good idea. Kill your original mob after getting a few links, and be completely hate free on the DRG.

I just wish SE would put stats like this on gear that's actually worth TP'ing in to begin with. Like the empy helm is great... as a WS piece. Or in rare cases, as an extreme acc piece. But anything you put wyvern survivability stats on needs to be something I'd TP in anyway. I mean, you can make a toggle and swap to a weaker TP set if you notice the wyvern getting slapped. But it'd be so, so, much more useful to just have it on something you'd wear anyway.

It's definitely more useful, but not at all interesting. I find this very similar to the suggestion of allowing multiple sets of nyame armor. It would be really handy to have nyame for TP, WS, nuking, debuffing, etc. Especially with the DT and Meva. But it creates a lot fewer decisions.

It's like when your best DD piece is also the highest DT and Meva...well there's no reason to ever use anything else.

If the best pet DT pieces were also the best master DD pieces on PUP or BST, it would be useful and convenient, but also boring. Same with wyvern DT, or wyvern absorb in this case. If it's a good TP piece and also good for wyvern absorption, you aren't actively choosing to equip it to keep your pet alive, which makes the game less interesting and engaging IMO

This whole discussion spawned because of that and this idea is novel and niche. In a world where empy head had STP+12 and DT-12%, this discussion would never happen because it would be the default head piece.

Its for a niche use, like my wyvern is going to die and I can't do anything about it, so I might as well shoot for a couple lucky absorbs to buy a few seconds until I can heal him as a last ditch effort (or i become useless for Call Wyvern recast time). It comes at a huge master defensive sacrifice, but I can make that up with adamantite armor/defending ring etc in other spots. Just preparing for one of those moments, more gear to have a reason to carry around or toss.

Added progression TP sets to the Community Guide on bg-wiki based on ease of access for new players. Looking for feedback on either additional tiers of progression I should add in, if you think there's alternative easy options to get for progression, or if you think some of my choices are out to lunch.

Once I get necessary feedback and make adjustments, will work on filling out the role/information section, and then a section on JA swaps.

I'd skip bayld gear entirely and just use sparks > nq ambu > beyond after the reductions in cost. the bayld stuff is cheap too, but you'll never need it again.

Sparks gear is lower ilvl and has significantly lower stats. I had thought about it, but I also feel the bayld gear is fairly cheap and worth getting over the sparks gear. A lot of new players come with a GWP invite so they start off with 10 Copper vouchers, and they've likely earned many more while leveling, so no Bayld farming is generally necessary for them to pick up a set easily for their first job.

These are the same people that put Dual Wield and WSD on the same piece.



Like, come on...

the only reason I mention bayld is that you probably do the intermediate tutorial ROE freebies, so you'll have half a set and weapon anyway, and that is enough to do N vol2 ambuscade.

either way, just a small nitpick over a set you won't spend tons of time in no matter how you do it.

That's one of their better Nin JSE items. My favorite is the AF head with WS dmg but no acc att or mab.

Martel's point is valid. SE makes too many pieces with conflicting stats that just don't make any logical sense. Some items are clearly designed with a focus or intent, and then others just seem totally thrown together with mixmatched stats and roles that don't compliment each other properly. Just weird.

It is yea but it could have been better/less contradictory if they replaced the DW with, literally almost anything else lol


Back on topic - I have a toggle for a max wyvern survival DT set that includes the empy helm and iirc caps mdt/pdt for the dragoon as well. Definitely would be nice to have some pieces of the AF/relic +4 that fill some of these gaps.

The Dual Wield's been there since Day 1 and SE generally hasnt removed stats on the ilvl version unless it was to stack them all on one piece (ie thf steal)



I'm not taking away from any of their room temp IQ decisions on some of these pieces, just pointing out that Dual Wield wasnt added to the 119 legs arbitrarily.

So, about this...

I went and tested. I think I ended up pulling half the zone.


And, it looks like... Yes. They do actually stack. 5k+ total hits sample. 25% absorb rate. A bit higher than expected, but even with a sample of this size I think it can still vary by +/-1%.


TLDR: Peltast's Mezail and Emicho gambieras' Wyvern absorb effects stack.