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By Areaden 2025-06-06 10:05:31
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I just started DRG, whats a good UpToDate guide out there?
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By Atrox78 2025-06-06 10:06:36
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Klaus's guide on BG is a good start.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-06 10:32:59
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Er im not sure about that guide honestly... assuming you mean kaius?

They are telling people to that you need to switch gear around to "cap equipment haste" when capped magical and wyvern out with /SAM you only need 17% gear haste to cap. The only one they actually got right is the Naegling haste.

WS sets they cant actually get wrong since they are just copy pasted sets from the All jobs gear sets.
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By Atrox78 2025-06-06 11:41:00
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Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
Er im not sure about that guide honestly... assuming you mean kaius?

They are telling people to that you need to switch gear around to "cap equipment haste" when capped magical and wyvern out with /SAM you only need 17% gear haste to cap. The only one they actually got right is the Naegling haste.

WS sets they cant actually get wrong since they are just copy pasted sets from the All jobs gear sets.

Compared to the other one (Galksomthing), it's alot better and only the two exist. The high end sets are a good starting point and tge info on the job is solid. Could be the haste cap was supposed to reference when your wyvern is dead. At any rate, it's not horrible though it's not the drg Bible either.
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2025-06-06 14:43:02
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Seeing this reminded me I intended to add my sets to the community guide after he who shall not be named nuked the previous guide. I've added them now if anyone thinks they're more useful than the other two mentioned, great! If there's any very obvious changes someone sees that should be made on a slot that I just for some reason didn't realize lemme know. At some point I'll go back and make a progression tier of like Starting 119-> Starting Odyssey.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-06 15:27:38
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Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
Er im not sure about that guide honestly... assuming you mean kaius?

They are telling people to that you need to switch gear around to "cap equipment haste" when capped magical and wyvern out with /SAM you only need 17% gear haste to cap. The only one they actually got right is the Naegling haste.

I didn't see this mentioned, and all the engaged sets cap haste or specifically state why it isn't capped. Maybe I missed this reference, or he edited the sets afterwards and forgot to fix that line? Idk, the guide overall looks solid to me.

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nuked the previous guide

it's still referenced at the bottom of Kaius's guide using an archived version.
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2025-06-06 15:35:58
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
it's still referenced at the bottom of Kaius's guide using an archived version.

Ooh did not know that, good to know, may use that to work on the general community guide later.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-06 15:48:16
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
Er im not sure about that guide honestly... assuming you mean kaius?

They are telling people to that you need to switch gear around to "cap equipment haste" when capped magical and wyvern out with /SAM you only need 17% gear haste to cap. The only one they actually got right is the Naegling haste.

I didn't see this mentioned, and all the engaged sets cap haste or specifically state why it isn't capped. Maybe I missed this reference, or he edited the sets afterwards and forgot to fix that line? Idk, the guide overall looks solid to me.

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nuked the previous guide

it's still referenced at the bottom of Kaius's guide using an archived version.

Ah i see its above the gear sets, I went straight to the gear sets instead which is probably what most people would do.
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By Atrox78 2025-06-06 15:52:41
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Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »
Seeing this reminded me I intended to add my sets to the community guide after he who shall not be named nuked the previous guide. I've added them now if anyone thinks they're more useful than the other two mentioned, great! If there's any very obvious changes someone sees that should be made on a slot that I just for some reason didn't realize lemme know. At some point I'll go back and make a progression tier of like Starting 119-> Starting Odyssey.

Your sets look good. I will say personally for me i do not use relic mail at all in my jump sets. Empy 3 body all the way but tgat just personal preference.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-06 15:59:34
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Bahamut.Creaucent said: »
WS sets they cant actually get wrong since they are just copy pasted sets from the All jobs gear sets.

He also has a unique Cataclysm build that uses Blurred Staff +1, not listed on the All Jobs Sets/Dragoon page. I'm usually one to minmax, but I never noticed DRG can use this OAT weapon and never thought of that over Malignance Pole (which I alwyays carry). So that is different and interesting.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-07 18:34:12
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Does anybody know if the "Wyvern: Absorbs damage taken +6%" stat on Emicho Gambieras +1 stacks with the same term on the Peltast's Mezail +3 (+18%)? Normally, absorb gear doesn't stack for players, but wondering if they ignored this rule for pets, and wyverns can get a +24% absorb chance.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-06-07 19:31:33
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I feel like I've either attempted to test this or something closely related in the past.. I can recall letting a bunch of chigoes hit my wyvern while wearing the mezail... but I can't recall anything else, nor can I find any documentation or bookmarked posts. Couldn't find anything on JP wiki either. If there's testing, it's probably in a random twitter post that I'll never find.

My poor memory aside, Good question! Not sure, and I don't know of any testing on it. My emicho feet are on a mule atm, and I'm just... still hanging around online after the free login period. rofl. If I resub after the update, I might test it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-07 20:37:21
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I can test it via super jump/link an aggro and let my wyvern take hits when I have time, i was just curious on it. I would make a rare toggle for when I really need my wyvern to heal up and Restoring Breath/Bond and Spirit Link is down. ~1/4 hits netting a wyvern heal is kind of a neat trick
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-06-07 20:54:18
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Oh, the linking is a really good idea. Kill your original mob after getting a few links, and be completely hate free on the DRG.

I just wish SE would put stats like this on gear that's actually worth TP'ing in to begin with. Like the empy helm is great... as a WS piece. Or in rare cases, as an extreme acc piece. But anything you put wyvern survivability stats on needs to be something I'd TP in anyway. I mean, you can make a toggle and swap to a weaker TP set if you notice the wyvern getting slapped. But it'd be so, so, much more useful to just have it on something you'd wear anyway.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-06-07 21:45:04
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
But it'd be so, so, much more useful to just have it on something you'd wear anyway.

It's definitely more useful, but not at all interesting. I find this very similar to the suggestion of allowing multiple sets of nyame armor. It would be really handy to have nyame for TP, WS, nuking, debuffing, etc. Especially with the DT and Meva. But it creates a lot fewer decisions.

It's like when your best DD piece is also the highest DT and Meva...well there's no reason to ever use anything else.

If the best pet DT pieces were also the best master DD pieces on PUP or BST, it would be useful and convenient, but also boring. Same with wyvern DT, or wyvern absorb in this case. If it's a good TP piece and also good for wyvern absorption, you aren't actively choosing to equip it to keep your pet alive, which makes the game less interesting and engaging IMO

This whole discussion spawned because of that and this idea is novel and niche. In a world where empy head had STP+12 and DT-12%, this discussion would never happen because it would be the default head piece.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-07 22:02:39
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Its for a niche use, like my wyvern is going to die and I can't do anything about it, so I might as well shoot for a couple lucky absorbs to buy a few seconds until I can heal him as a last ditch effort (or i become useless for Call Wyvern recast time). It comes at a huge master defensive sacrifice, but I can make that up with adamantite armor/defending ring etc in other spots. Just preparing for one of those moments, more gear to have a reason to carry around or toss.
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