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Gov. Rick Perry indicted on felony charges
You heard him, free forced psychiatric evaluation every morning for every gun owner in the country.
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. Odin.Jassik said: » Jetackuu said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Tl:Dr yeah, the only use for these weapons is killing a ton of people, but we can't do anything to limit the accessibility of unstable people or encourage manufacturers not to sell them in large amounts to anyone who wants them. We could do that if they hadn't shut down all the state hospitals and let them all out. I'm no fan of Reagan sir. Shiva.Viciousss said: » It's a failure because the project as a whole was cancelled. Since it's cancellation, they have managed to resurrect a few remnants. But the project failed, the trans Texas corridor does not exist and will never exist in it's intended form. That is indisputable fact. The corridor project created a way to get from San Antonio to Waco (or really, Seguin to Georgetown) easier without having to go through the hellhole that is Austin Traffic. Since you are not from Texas, you wouldn't understand the way I-35 is in Austin. You can only call it a failure when the project was started but never finished. The only part of the project that actually started was SH130, and that was completed. The corridor project also brought into light a cheaper alternative to get from San Antonio to Dallas/Fort Worth, and that is creating additional lanes on I-35. Which is still in progress, and is expected to be completed soon. Long story short, the project is not a failure, it created it's true purpose, and just because it wasn't done in the fashion you expected doesn't make it an automatic failure. You are looking for excuses to call it a failure and are willing to do everything to say so. Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. But since we do, then your argument holds no water. Keep trying to delude yourself.
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Sometimes killing someone is the right thing to do.
Besides Jassik, you should be thankful for guns. Take away guns and guys like me move way up to the top of the food chain. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. But since we do, then your argument holds no water. Keep trying to delude yourself. That makes literally no sense. Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: » Sometimes killing someone is the right thing to do. Besides Jassik, you should be thankful for guns. Take away guns and guys like me move way up to the top of the food chain. If you think a guy from a town of 800 in Idaho doesn't own guns, you are even more delusional than we all thought. Also, anyone who has the delusion that having guns makes them a badass is exactly the kind of nutbag that shouldn't be allowed to. Quote: Take away guns and guys like me move way up to the top of the food chain. I'm actually curious why that is. How come?
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Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. But since we do, then your argument holds no water. Keep trying to delude yourself. That makes literally no sense. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. But since we do, then your argument holds no water. Keep trying to delude yourself. That makes literally no sense. No limit or background check is required for private sales. As in, legally, anyone can buy an unlimited amount of weapons from private parties with no accountability. Nice try, but I went to school at Texas State in San Marcos, so I know all about the Austin traffic, and after having moved to Chicago, its not that bad. You are just looking for some excuse to call it a success, when its a clear failure. It never even got truly off the ground, and certainly is not a success just because they added a lane to I-35, which was never even a part of the plan. Like I said, they salvaged remnants, but even that is an exaggeration, they settled on a different project, completely unrelated to the failed trans texas corridor, and you are trying (and failing) to call it a win. Its not. 13 years later, the TTC failed. Keep trying tho. Its cute.
Bismarck.Ihina said: » Quote: Take away guns and guys like me move way up to the top of the food chain. I'm actually curious why that is. How come? Because stupid internet tough guys are dangerous man, come on now. Odin.Jassik said: » No limit or background check is required for private sales. As in, legally, anyone can buy an unlimited amount of weapons from private parties with no accountability. Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Because that is what guns are, a tool. How the person uses the tool is what matters. That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. But since we do, then your argument holds no water. Keep trying to delude yourself. That makes literally no sense. No limit or background check is required for private sales. As in, legally, anyone can buy an unlimited amount of weapons from private parties with no accountability. 
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Shiva.Viciousss said: » Nice try, but I went to school at Texas State in San Marcos, so I know all about the Austin traffic, and after having moved to Chicago, its not that bad. You are just looking for some excuse to call it a success, when its a clear failure. It never even got truly off the ground, and certainly is not a success just because they added a lane to I-35, which was never even a part of the plan. Like I said, they salvaged remnants, but even that is an exaggeration, they settled on a different project, completely unrelated to the failed trans texas corridor, and you are trying (and failing) to call it a win. Its not. 13 years later, the TTC failed. Keep trying tho. Its cute. Hahaha you live in Chicago and have the nerve to make fun of other peoples place a residence... /sigh Altimaomega said: » Shiva.Viciousss said: » Nice try, but I went to school at Texas State in San Marcos, so I know all about the Austin traffic, and after having moved to Chicago, its not that bad. You are just looking for some excuse to call it a success, when its a clear failure. It never even got truly off the ground, and certainly is not a success just because they added a lane to I-35, which was never even a part of the plan. Like I said, they salvaged remnants, but even that is an exaggeration, they settled on a different project, completely unrelated to the failed trans texas corridor, and you are trying (and failing) to call it a win. Its not. 13 years later, the TTC failed. Keep trying tho. Its cute. Hahaha you live in Chicago and have the nerve to make fun of other peoples place a residence... /sigh Yep. And will continue to. U mad bro? Shiva.Viciousss said: » Altimaomega said: » Shiva.Viciousss said: » Nice try, but I went to school at Texas State in San Marcos, so I know all about the Austin traffic, and after having moved to Chicago, its not that bad. You are just looking for some excuse to call it a success, when its a clear failure. It never even got truly off the ground, and certainly is not a success just because they added a lane to I-35, which was never even a part of the plan. Like I said, they salvaged remnants, but even that is an exaggeration, they settled on a different project, completely unrelated to the failed trans texas corridor, and you are trying (and failing) to call it a win. Its not. 13 years later, the TTC failed. Keep trying tho. Its cute. Hahaha you live in Chicago and have the nerve to make fun of other peoples place a residence... /sigh Yep. And will continue to. U mad bro? lol nope, if your that *** stupid by all means continue.. u no liv whar i liv ur stoopid
Your mastery of intelligent discourse knows no equal, Altima.
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Odin.Jassik said: » No limit or background check is required for private sales. As in, legally, anyone can buy an unlimited amount of weapons from private parties with no accountability. There are no limits on the number of screwdrivers, axes, hatches, hammers, sledges, kitchen knives, hunting knives, and ice picks a person can buy either; yet they will all kill someone to the same extent of "dead". A tool is a tool. The objective is to educate and disseminate, while having policies and procedures in place to limit the opportunity of broken psyche and/or past offender persons from obtaining tools that make it inherently easier to kill or wound. Vehicles are far more deadly in practically every country on earth at this point, yet we aren't going to make it any harder for people to obtain one, or get behind the wheel. We try to limit alcohol consumption and distraction driving, but look where prohibition got the US in the past. This is a key testament that there is only so far we can step into controlling other's lives before there is a significant and negative push back. We should continue to evolve and trim our current gun laws, while still allowing (to our best knowledge) law abiding citizens their freedom to own tools that offer hunting, protection, and recreational uses. Already flattened that argument, but good job restating the same BS idea that someone else already did on this exact page.
Odin.Jassik said: » That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. YouTube Video Placeholder Did someone say tools? Odin.Jassik said: » Already flattened that argument, but good job restating the same BS idea that someone else already did on this exact page. Odin.Jassik said: » That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. You didn't though, as none of these other tools are a constitutionally protected "right." That "shall not be infringed" I wonder how many people here know what infringement means.
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Jetackuu said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Already flattened that argument, but good job restating the same BS idea that someone else already did on this exact page. Odin.Jassik said: » That argument doesn't hold water under any level of critical analysis. How many potentially dangerous "tools" are people not allowed unlimited access to with good reason? I suppose everyone should be able to stockpile explosives, because they're just a "tool". Moreover, assault weapons are indeed a tool with one specific purpose, to kill people. At least things like hammers, knives, and dynamite have a different primary purpose. Assault weapons are a tool that literally has no other use. We're not talking about hunting rifles, we're talking about military grade semi-automatic assault weapons, large magazines, armor piercing ammunition, etc. You didn't though, as none of these other tools are a constitutionally protected "right." There's a big problem with the 2nd amendment, actually there's a few big problems... SCotUS ruled that the right to keep and bear arms was not limited to militia, but extended to persons, which is fine, except neither the drafters or the supreme court that ruled on it envisioned weapons that hold hundreds of rounds. SCotUS also ruled that the 2nd amendment is NOT immune from regulation and that private individuals don't have the right to possess weapons like grenades. Times have changed significantly since the 2nd amendment was drafted. And lets be clear, I'm not talking about small arms and things like hunting rifles or even semi-autos. I don't see why someone shouldn't be allowed to own a recreational weapon, either, I love shooting my guns. Also, the legal requirements for infringement of personal liberties is far different than the common English definition. Regulation of guns is legal according to SCotUS.
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I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing.
The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has. Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution.
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Jetackuu said: » I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing. The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has. Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution. All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't.
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Odin.Jassik said: » Already flattened that argument, but good job restating the same BS idea that someone else already did on this exact page. daemun said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Already flattened that argument, but good job restating the same BS idea that someone else already did on this exact page. There's nothing legitimate about it. By that metric, thermonuclear bombs are just tools, so everyone should be allowed to have them. Odin.Jassik said: » Jetackuu said: » I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing. The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has. Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution. All rights have limits, why should firearms be any different? None of that changes the fact that assault weapons are the only type that are specifically designed to kill large amounts of people. I am not going to get into the same stupid discussion about whether the supreme court has the power to rule on the constitution or whether gun rights have limits, I refuted the moronic idea that guns are just tools, obviously, some aren't. Because it's guaranteed, in writing. Guns are designed to efficiently fire projectiles, not kill people. I've owned a gun for over 2 years, it hasn't killed anyone yet. You haven't refuted ***, as they are just tools. You cannot prove otherwise. This thread has reached the height of epic intelligence.
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Jetackuu said: » I really don't give a rats *** what the SCOTUS ruled, they weren't given the power to rule on such a thing. The fact that "times have changed" is also irrelevant. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect the people from the government, the people have the right, if not the duty to have the same weapons if not better than those the government has. Regulation of guns is unconstitutional according to the constitution. |
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