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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-17 20:14:59
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
As for your 4 line items, all of those are in fact accurate.
As for the bold: almost entirely not true.
I'm white and I know this. What, you keep people down in the gutters for fun? Your own words, not mine btw. Sauce?
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By Valefor.Slore 2014-08-17 20:34:10
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
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By fonewear 2014-08-17 20:34:54
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
As for your 4 line items, all of those are in fact accurate.
As for the bold: almost entirely not true.
I'm white and I know this. What, you keep people down in the gutters for fun? Your own words, not mine btw. Sauce? 
That sauce had only two days left till retirement....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-17 20:44:43
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this. But but but.....
....it's fun to loot and blame people for their own faults.
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By Valefor.Slore 2014-08-17 20:58:11
You cant blame the looters or your racist and trying to oppress people.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-17 20:59:42
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this. I guess you'd have a point if anyone here thought the violence was justified. But no one does so... you don't.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 21:17:24
Yes, lets keep focusing on the rioters and not the people who put themselves in harms way to peacefully assemble / protect businesses. Because rioters don't pop up in every *** group of people from white hockey fans who trash streets to the hispanic hooligans who would kill someone over a football game.
I guess we should look at an entire race and judge them by the lowest common denominator.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-17 21:24:53
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
Well fortunately, you have been discharged. Go back to school.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-17 21:33:48
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
It's okay for blacks to destroy and loot during a riot in their neighborhood because secretly all the real estate moguls want to demolish the area and put up industrial hipster lofts anyway.
Remember, follow the money.
By fonewear 2014-08-17 21:40:05
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
I'm a black cop and I find this offensive !
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-17 22:04:51
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
I'm a black cop and I find this offensive ! I thought you were a strong, independent black female cop.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-17 22:22:22
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
It's okay for blacks to destroy and loot during a riot in their neighborhood because secretly all the real estate moguls want to demolish the area and put up industrial hipster lofts anyway.
Remember, follow the money. Isn't that a premise of a movie?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 22:36:49
It's the premise of Brooklyn :P
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-17 22:43:19
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
It's okay for blacks to destroy and loot during a riot in their neighborhood because secretly all the real estate moguls want to demolish the area and put up industrial hipster lofts anyway.
Remember, follow the money. Isn't that a premise of a movie?
Probably, the latest reference to it I can remember is Grand Theft Auto V.
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
I'm a black cop and I find this offensive ! I thought you were a strong, independent black female cop.
No, a Strong, Independent Black Female Muslim cop. Finding an Allah-compliant Burqa uniform was a *** I bet.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 22:47:21
Sounds like that real estate scam from Superman Returns.
By Voren 2014-08-18 00:50:50
Cop shot 18 year old
There were no riots. There were no protests. There was an investigation, trial, and conviction. His sentence was laughable until you realize that inmates in prison followed this story. It was all over the news in Oklahoma for some time. He's going to make someone a nice wife.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-18 02:14:22
How's his appeal turning out?
By Voren 2014-08-18 02:31:27
I hope it's going crappy.
It's also nice to see that he's right next to a mental institution. Oklahoma DOC Ft Supply has one of the state's worst mental health institutions in Oklahoma. He's probably in p.c. right now and not getting buggered daily before chow.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-18 02:54:29
I read the page, I'm kinda iffy on that one, tbh.
By fonewear 2014-08-18 07:02:32
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-18 07:37:00
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
The day a black cop does such a thing, he'll be thrown directly in the death row. So why would you go riot?
You want people to act decent? Give them some justice.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-18 08:09:44
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
The day a black cop does such a thing, he'll be thrown directly in the death row. So why would you go riot?
You want people to act decent? Give them some justice. Problem is, Justice is Blind. Everyone has their own version of justice they want to see being carried out.
Someone steals a cookie, someone thinks they should be made an example of.
Others say "pfft, just a cookie"
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-18 08:10:12
The day a black cop does such a thing, he'll be thrown directly in the death row. Oh really?
This is just one example of a black cop killing an unarmed white guy, and not only does the cop get away with is, but no media reporting except local newspapers of the incident ever occurs.
Where's the rioting? Where's the protests?
They don't exist for the other side of the coin, only if a "poor innocent black kid" gets shot by an "evil, KKK member white guy"
Which almost never happens.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-18 08:11:23
Also, before the page dies:
Nine Pages!!!!!
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2014-08-18 08:11:26
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
The day a black cop does such a thing, he'll be thrown directly in the death row. So why would you go riot?
You want people to act decent? Give them some justice.
Don't think that's has ever happened, and when/if it happens we will see......
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2014-08-18 08:12:32
Well never mind...
By fonewear 2014-08-18 08:23:12
Also, before the page dies:
Nine Pages!!!!!
Going to take a whole lot of looting to bring justice !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-18 08:46:04
So if a black cop kills a white man for trying to take his weapon its ok for us to all go riot in the streets and destroy our own neighborhood? This is the dumbest ***I have ever seen. Wanna be treated like decent people then act like decent people. When do you see that you're your own worst enemy? Cry racism and act like this. <sigh> I served for this.
The day a black cop does such a thing, he'll be thrown directly in the death row. So why would you go riot?
You want people to act decent? Give them some justice.
Again, they're all sheep. Puppets of the media, and allowing the race baiters to fan their prejudice when NO facts were available. They (the people who allowed that) should be ashamed of themselves.
Now the "gentle giant" is on tape roughing up the store clerk. And all people can do is put their denial mechanisms in overdrive. People are innocent until proven guilty in this country. That not only includes the victim in this case, but the cop as well.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 08:58:28
You cant blame the looters or your racist and trying to oppress people.
Can't I blame everyone in the situation?
Cops use excessive force. Happens time and again.
People respond with a mob mentality where everyone is mad, and a few in the mob decide it is probably also a good time to use this as an opportunity to commit a few crimes of their own > mob mentality kicks > people invalidate their own outrage by engaging in criminal acts to protest criminal acts.
Situation turns into one big clusterfuck of "us vs. them" and never gets any better.
There are just so many factors. Race. Poverty vs. affluence. Culture. A cascading effect of individuals with poor judgment.
There's no quick solution to any of this. It's going to take as many years to unfuck the situation in this country as it did to *** it up in the first place.
Supposedly the process began 60 years ago with the civil rights movement.
So, you know. A couple hundred more to go...
To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
Quote:
The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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