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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2014-08-16 18:42:30
The biggest problem I find is that media outlets report on stuff like this with "facts" before anyone really has any idea of whats going on... People latch on to whatever little bit they want to agree with before they actually have an idea of what actually happened. You have a much clearer idea some ways down the road with a more objective viewpoint It doesn't help that the public has come to expect that it is their right to know what happened "right now".
We had a stabbing in our town a few years ago, and while police were still trying to talk to witnesses to find out what happened, people were calling the station wanting to know all the details. Local paper the next day was filled with all sorts of letters complaining that the cops weren't telling them anything when they called, even though they lived in town, so they should have all the details.
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By Anna Ruthven 2014-08-16 19:12:42
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic. Your hashtags have no power here.
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By Valefor.Yoloswag 2014-08-16 19:16:54
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic. Your hashtags have no power here. #yolo
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By Leviathan.Damonica 2014-08-16 19:41:00
When will the violence end?!?
Until people can look at others without the color of their skin being the first thing they see, this country will never know peace nor equality. I'm not taking either side. All of the facts of the case are not known (and will never be).
Facts that are known. . .
1. African-American male teen
2. Caucasian Officer
3. Shots fired
4. Teen dead
Yes, there is video footage of a store robbery. There are witness statements stating the teen and the officer "tussled" over the officer's gun. Others that state the officer initiated it. We will never know. The officer can give an account of his perception of what lead to the fatal shooting, but Michael Brown will not be afforded the same luxury.
Other countries ask for our aide in helping resolve conflict that they are suffering but at the same time, our own country is suffering from conflicts and injustice. True justice will never be had in this country until we can all come together as one nation united regardless of race and stop the injustice, inequality and discrimination that plagues this nation.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-16 20:09:27
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 20:13:33
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic.
#givepeaceachance
By Jetackuu 2014-08-16 20:51:48
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic. Your hashtags have no power here. Can we start that as a bannable offense?
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By Anna Ruthven 2014-08-16 20:52:58
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic. Your hashtags have no power here. Can we start that as a bannable offense? Probably not, but that'd be funny.
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 20:53:12
You don't realize that Twitter has magical powers.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-16 20:55:07
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic. Your hashtags have no power here. Can we start that as a bannable offense? Probably not, but that'd be sweet justice. ftfy sir
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-16 21:23:23
Quote: Hundreds of demonstrators in Ferguson, Missouri, angry at the shooting death of a black teenager by police took to the streets in the rain on Saturday night, hours ahead of a planned curfew called for by the state's governor.
Missouri Governor Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency, as he and other officials seek to restore order after a week of racially charged protests and looting over the shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer.
The curfew will run midnight until 5 a.m. CDT (0500 to 1000 GMT) until further notice, said Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson. Johnson was named by the governor this week to oversee security in the suburban St. Louis community that has been roiled by the Aug. 9 shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown.
The mood among hundreds of protesters on a main road in Ferguson that has been the scene of recent demonstrations was tense and defiant on Saturday night, in marked contrast to the festive atmosphere of Thursday. Scores of police in bullet-proof vests lined the sides of the road in the rain.
"I'm a grown man, 24 years old," said demonstrator Phonso Scott. "I can be out here as long as I want to be. I'll be right here at 12:01, 12:02."
"The curfew is going to make things worse," he said. "I think the cops are going to get violent tonight, but they can't lock us all up."
Earlier in the day, Nixon and other officials came face to face with angry members of the community during a tense news conference at a church near Ferguson.
"The eyes of the world are watching. This is the test of whether a community, this community, any community, can break the cycle of fear, distrust and violence, and replace them with peace, strength and, ultimately, justice," Nixon, a Democrat, told the gathering.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-16 21:54:09
They have to stop the looting, I figured a curfew would be put in place.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-16 21:56:05
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-08-16 22:18:59
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-16 22:32:46
Missing - Aljazeera American: Pat yourself on the back for watching news from a station that sounds like a terrorist cell Mr. Progressive!
By fonewear 2014-08-17 06:52:25
They have to stop the looting, I figured a curfew would be put in place.
When you are bored you will do anything to pass the time...
By fonewear 2014-08-17 06:54:01
I am not a looter but I'm going to resign anyways.
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By fonewear 2014-08-17 06:59:43
Al Sharpton speaks all will be healed:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/16/sharpton-ferguson-protesters-smear-campaign-rioting
Following a night of continued unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, Reverend Al Sharpton on Saturday implored protesters to stop the violence and looting, saying such actions strengthened a “smear campaign” against Michael Brown, the teenager who was shot dead by a police officer last weekend.
“You mad and you angry and you have every right to be,” Sharpton said during a rally held by his National Action Network in New York. “But because you can’t control your anger, they’ll use your lack of control to control the process to rob [Brown’s family] of justice.
“They want us to lose our minds so we can lose the cases.”
The National Action Network is holding back-to-back rallies in New York and Missouri over the weekend, to demand justice for two African-American men killed by police: Eric Garner, a 43-year-old Staten Island man who died last month after being put in an illegal chokehold by an NYPD officer, and Brown, 18, who was fatally shot last Saturday.
Sharpton was joined at the rally by Garner’s family and the US representative Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat from New York.
Sharpton questioned the decision by police in Ferguson to release surveillance footage that allegedly showed Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store shortly before he was shot. Police on Friday gave conflicting accounts of whether the two events were connected.
“You put [the video] out because you wanted to smear the name of the victim and there’s nothing more contemptible and offensive to the people of this country than for law enforcement to try to smear a dead man or dead child that can’t speak for themselves,” Sharpton said. “… Like that in any way mitigates what was done to him.”
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2014-08-17 08:20:31
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »%(***-yer)#hashtags!
You make me proud! ; :
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-17 08:36:24
Not 'racist' Al Sharpton said: “They want us to lose our minds so we can lose the cases.” They?
Who are they? The police? The government?
Or the imaginary racists in this event?
And people think that Al Sharpton isn't racist at all....
By fonewear 2014-08-17 08:40:08
Not 'racist' Al Sharpton said: “They want us to lose our minds so we can lose the cases.” They?
Who are they? The police? The government?
Or the imaginary racists in this event?
And people think that Al Sharpton isn't racist at all....
I'm guessing CNN so the ratings stay high.
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-08-17 11:11:59
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 11:23:24
The old blame the victim tactic continues to deliver.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 11:24:21
Also, saying white people run the country isn't racist, its a fact. The few minority standouts (in b4 Obama) doesn't change the fact of who holds the most power up in 'Murica.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-17 11:36:04
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »The old blame the victim tactic continues to deliver. The old "ignore the problem" tactic also continues to deliver.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-17 12:14:14
The new "Ignore the problem while blaming the victim" delivers in ways neither of those old tactics ever could.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-17 12:31:17
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
As for your 4 line items, all of those are in fact accurate.
As for the bold: almost entirely not true.
I'm white and I know this.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-17 13:01:30
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
As for your 4 line items, all of those are in fact accurate.
As for the bold: almost entirely not true.
I'm white and I know this. What, you keep people down in the gutters for fun? Your own words, not mine btw.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-17 13:33:59
Hey *insert minority here*! You can do anything you want in this world if you just believe! Believe! Ignore the statistics! Ignore the overt and covert racism! Believe! Believe!
Sorry, I dropped religion because it made arguments that couldn't be backed up with facts. Why would I suddenly subscribe to this new sweater of warm, comforting lies?
The reality is that the races ain't equal, capitalism speaks with money not idealistic rants and stereotypes are alive and well. Stereotypes that range from not getting hired for a job right down to bank loans, your pool of connections, your generational capital, your hair style or what people say when ain't in the room.
You've got to work +1 to be 'recognized' as that 'good' minority before you can even approach being deemed an equal.
What one should do is believe in themselves, fight the good fight and never stop dreaming even if the world thinks you're an up to no good criminal looking to disrupt utopian American society.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-17 14:50:12
THEY = a real indirect way of saying white people in power. THE MAN.
They're taking our rights!
They're killing our people!
They want you act ignorant and be uneducated
They're taking your jobs!
All I'm hearing is excuses to stay ignorant and act a fool by blaming someone else. No one is holding anyone down but themselves.
As for your 4 line items, all of those are in fact accurate.
As for the bold: almost entirely not true.
I'm white and I know this. What, you keep people down in the gutters for fun? Your own words, not mine btw. Sauce?
To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured.
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting.
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place.
And now to bring you up to date:
Quote:
The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made.
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment.
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