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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
By gdiShun 2014-08-15 15:53:56
We have to form our opinions on what we do know, not what we might not know.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-15 17:06:07
But he wasn't stopped for that. He was stopped for blocking traffic.
Chief: Brown wasn't stopped due to robbery - CNN.
Executed on the street for blocking traffic....
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-15 17:09:17
We have to form our opinions on what we do know, not what we might not know. We have to form our opinions on what we do know, not what we might not know. Oh come on. People often form opinions on what they think they know, as well as what they don't know.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-15 17:32:09
Oh come on. People often form opinions on what they think they know, as well as what they don't know.
The trick is getting people to actually admit that.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-15 17:33:01
I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-08-15 18:20:10
The biggest problem I find is that media outlets report on stuff like this with "facts" before anyone really has any idea of whats going on... People latch on to whatever little bit they want to agree with before they actually have an idea of what actually happened. You have a much clearer idea some ways down the road with a more objective viewpoint
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-15 19:02:12
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
By ElysiumTK 2014-08-15 19:31:25
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. I believe it.
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic.
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By Shiva.Eboneezer 2014-08-15 20:02:42
But he wasn't stopped for that. He was stopped for blocking traffic.
Executed on the street for assaulting an officer and attempting to grab his weapon
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-08-15 20:22:46
I wonder why we can't have an actual honest conversation about this subject.
Let's be honest here. He died because he tried to have a *** swinging contest with the wrong cop...the wrong guy and he lost. It's not anymore complicated than that.
By Heimdel 2014-08-15 20:46:39
I wonder why we can't have an actual honest conversation about this subject.
Let's be honest here. He died because he tried to have a *** swinging contest with the wrong cop...the wrong guy and he lost. It's not anymore complicated than that.
Because people would rather be outraged over everything instead of treating it with reason and be rational about it.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-08-15 20:53:23
It was more of a rhetorical question rather than try and start a meta conversation.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-15 21:14:27
So, have we all come to the conclusion that it happened, it will happen again, and rioting....err...."protesting" about it will do as much good as signing a petition on change.org.
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-08-15 21:26:26
So, have we all come to the conclusion that it happened, it will happen again, and rioting....err...."protesting" about it will do as much good as signing a petition on change.org.
Did Al Sharpton show up yet? That could be a magic X-Factor that could bring about cha-oh wait. You are correct, something of this nature should probably happen again by at least March 2016.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-08-15 21:28:33
No, but Ted Cruz and Rand Paul did. Race baiters gonna bait.
By Fumiku 2014-08-15 22:06:47
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I'm not taking sides on this yet, however when he says that the officer was sitting in his car and reached out and grabbed his friend by the neck to choke him and then tried to pull him into the car.... it just doesn't make sense to me. @1:00
Thoughts?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-15 23:58:32
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I form my opinion based on what someone else's opinion tells me to form. The most wow ridiculous letter to the editor (this was before the interwebs) I ever read:
It was published by the Seattle Times. It was about "The life of Brian." It totally denounced the film as being anti religious and anti Christan. He hadn't actually seen the film, he had just read a review. The "reviewer" had stormed out in disgust before the opening credits....
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 00:00:00
No justice no grilled cheese ! I mean peace...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-16 00:46:39
Fone... It goes no peace no piece.
Lysistrata
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 08:08:34
I heard Missouri is nice during the summer time.
By Fumiku 2014-08-16 08:11:24
I heard Missouri is nice during the summer time.
Not on Friday though!
http://news.msn.com/us/police-protesters-clash-again-in-ferguson
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 16:03:55
Curfew 12 midnight to 5 am. Hide yo kids hide yo wife
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2014-08-16 16:23:47
By Jetackuu 2014-08-16 16:29:34
Quote: "In police work there are times we have to become soldiers and control through force and fear," Downing said.
That guy needs fired.
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By Ciri Zireael 2014-08-16 17:32:37
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic.
Can someone translate this to english for me, please?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-16 17:45:47
Police in middle America is brutal the media is running for their lives lmao "Finally".... Who cares about getting shipped over seas, when you can move to Middle America #Pathetic.
Can someone translate this to english for me, please? Translation said: Hi. I'm an idiot.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-16 17:56:51
Quote: "In police work there are times we have to become soldiers and control through force and fear," Downing said.
That guy needs fired. What do you expect from MSN anyway?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-16 18:00:59
Um, it's a quote from a police department head.
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By fonewear 2014-08-16 18:01:35
Quote: "In police work there are times we have to become soldiers and control through force and fear," Downing said.
That guy needs fired. What do you expect from MSN anyway?
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To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
Quote:
The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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