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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:45:48
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All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.

Yeah, but if you're Asian at all, you're ALL-Asian.

Ask Steve Byrne. Half Irish, half Korean.

Meanwhile he gets less Irish love than your average "Irish only St. Patrick's Day only" German/Swedish mix from Boston.


I mean, come on. Not JUST half Irish, but a hockey fan.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-15 12:50:18
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All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.

And instantly become one of the worst drivers alive.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:51:43
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So thats why MH370 vanished...
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:52:08
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.

And instantly become one of the worst drivers alive.

I can provide empirical evidence that you don't need to be Asian for this. Come to U.S. Route 30 through Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania any day of the *** week.
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By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:56:49
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We need to create police officer better !
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:58:24
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We need to create police officerpeople better!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 13:05:21
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Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.

He also twirls a mean gun.
 
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 13:16:47
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Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.

He also twirls a mean gun.

Liked him better as a serial killer in Psych.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 13:17:33
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Lol, the Terminator theme for the theatrical trailer.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 13:22:39
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Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.

He also twirls a mean gun.

Liked him better as a serial killer in Psych.

I liked him in Star Trek: Into Darkness, and also in season 5 of 24. He has an intimidating presence.

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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-08-15 13:25:23
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Those cameras are the worst.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-15 14:00:38
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The magic of white privilege.
Honestly Sparth, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you post.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 14:08:23
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Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 14:15:39
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Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.

Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 14:20:47
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Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges.
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By Enuyasha 2014-08-15 14:27:00
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Heimdel said: »
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges.
I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.

I really hate how people are using this as a civil rights movement when really its an across the board local government problem. All these neo-african revolutionaries popping out of the woodwork to give the world a show instead of moving forward and progressing.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 14:42:55
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Look, it's always going to be racially charged when you have a white cop shoot an unarmed, black teenager. Whether it was racially motivated or not.

Right know we have a country where a the police force is increasingly militarized, belligerent, and seemingly ready to pull the trigger at a moment's notice.

That doesn't mix well with a frequently urban, poor, black population that's constantly under suspicion for a host of poverty-associated crimes, and as such has cyclically grown more and more suspicious of police due to the suspicion cast upon them by others.
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Enuyasha said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Heimdel said: »
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges.
I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.

I'm not exactly familiar with the law when it comes to things that drop into that grey area of what can you do to an officer that results into an 'assault on officer' crime... but I'm pretty sure just the motion of attempting to grab an officer's weapon warrants an immediate armed response as it is presumed to be a dangerous situation. The officer doesn't know what the person will do if he manages to take the gun away. But wouldn't it be considered a felony?
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:14:05
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Enuyasha said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Heimdel said: »
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges.
I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.

I really hate how people are using this as a civil rights movement when really its an across the board local government problem. All these neo-african revolutionaries popping out of the woodwork to give the world a show instead of moving forward and progressing.

There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it from his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on something came charging at him threatening to kill him and pulls out something from his coat. The cop can't identify it because it was night. He talks about how he has to take into account his own safety the safety of bystanders among any number of other things in seconds. It ends up turning out to be a toothbrush the guy was threatening the cop with. Of course there was plenty of bystanders all standing there ready with their camera phone if he had shot the guy not knowing what the object was. You have the media that completely ignore any of this and each time they retell it they leave stuff out to make it more and more of a sensationalist story to get people to read or watch. In the end it will never be known what actually happen and what situation the cop was put in and if it was justified or not. All there is to go on is the word of the cop and word of bystanders that will go with a mob mentality and embellish storys out of excitement.

I once had a guy break into a enclosed back walkway of my apt trying hide from cops after committing theft and injuring a child. When the cops saw him hiding there my neighbor comes out and starts shouting at the cops to shoot him shoot him with no idea what is going on even though it was nowhere near his apt. This just shows the kind of reaction people will have to things.

Another one was a cop got stabbed at a park when he tried stopping a guy who was suspected of breaking into a car. The cop held onto the guy till help got there but ended up dying from his wounds. If he had used his gun his family wouldn't been left without a father now.

The point is people don't know what the situation actually was and jump to conclusions without even considering what might actually happened. If anything can blame the media since they go out of their way to blow things up as much as they can inciting people by making the most sensational storys they can by leaving information out or twisting it. Same way they do with whenever there's a school shooting or similar. They were specifically told by their own hired experts not to make them nation news but keep it local because it leads to copycats. People wanting the same kind of attention. They of course choose to completely ignore this advice.

In the end people dunno what did happen but the reaction been completely out of line. Oh also apparently all the people being arrested for looting and other crimes aren't even from the area. They been coming there to take advantage of the protesting to commit crimes hoping not to get caught.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:20:29
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Heimdel said: »
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.

Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either.
Alleged and suspected, yes. I remember when a coworker got stopped by East Haven, CT police on his way home from work one day. Apparently, he was unarmed, minding his own business, but, guess what? That's right. Exactly *** right. He "fit the description" of a suspect in a recent robbery in the area. One of the two cops grabbed'im by the neck and proceeded to use force when he asked them for evidence they might've had, such as a picture or some form of video proving they had any actual reason to stop him while he was walking home from work.
Most cops are real dickbags these days. Granted you'll meet a few who actually do their jobs and take the work seriously, but most use their badge as a shield to defend them while they bruteforce their will on those they've sworn to serve and protect.

That having been said, it's possible he might have merely just been in the area where that robbery happened, but unless we get actual surveillance video proving he did it, I'm siding with those supporting the boy's family, and think the Ferguson police department needs to be dismantled entirely and redone from the ground up. Root out and fire all the racist, crooked cops in that entire department, take their guns away, the whole nine yards.

It has a Surveillance video right on the article clearly showing his height the clothes he wearing his build the red cap he's wearing and even a direct angle of his face that can easily be cleaned up. Not to mention him intimidating and shoving the store clerk who tried to stop him.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 15:29:16
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There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it form his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on somethign came chargign at him threatening to kill him and pulls out somehtign from his coat what the cop can't identify becaus eit was night.

That's different. If the cops' safety is threatened, then it's reasonable for them to defend themselves with reasonable force.

From what we know of this case however, the suspect wasn't running at the cop, they were running away. Supposedly with their hands in the air.
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Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson on Friday said the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown was not aware that the unarmed 18-year-old was accused of robbing a convenience store just minutes before the shooting.

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Jackson said that "the initial contact with Brown was not related to the robbery." Jackson also clarified that Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown, wasn't even responding to a call about the robbery as initially reported. Wilson instead stopped Brown because he was jaywalking.

So whats the excuse now?'

Jaywalking, lulz.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 15:33:27
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Heimdel said: »
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Heimdel said: »
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.

Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either.
Alleged and suspected, yes. I remember when a coworker got stopped by East Haven, CT police on his way home from work one day. Apparently, he was unarmed, minding his own business, but, guess what? That's right. Exactly *** right. He "fit the description" of a suspect in a recent robbery in the area. One of the two cops grabbed'im by the neck and proceeded to use force when he asked them for evidence they might've had, such as a picture or some form of video proving they had any actual reason to stop him while he was walking home from work.
Most cops are real dickbags these days. Granted you'll meet a few who actually do their jobs and take the work seriously, but most use their badge as a shield to defend them while they bruteforce their will on those they've sworn to serve and protect.

That having been said, it's possible he might have merely just been in the area where that robbery happened, but unless we get actual surveillance video proving he did it, I'm siding with those supporting the boy's family, and think the Ferguson police department needs to be dismantled entirely and redone from the ground up. Root out and fire all the racist, crooked cops in that entire department, take their guns away, the whole nine yards.

It has a Surveillance video right on the article clearly showing his height the clothes he wearing his build the red cap he's wearing and even a direct angle of his face that can easily be cleaned up. Not to mention him intimidating and shoving the store clerk who tried to stop him.

And that's where a court of law would have come into play. It's the cops' job to gather evidence and make arrests - but it's up to the court to decide whether the evidence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the suspect committed the crime. Unfortunately it never got that far.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 15:36:35
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I always wondered what the media would pull up on me if I got murdered by cops.

25 year old male suspected of stealing Fafnirs and MPKing rival HNMLS'. Witnesses state he laughed at the wipes of other LS' and spammed '*** you' in Japanese while making insensitive remarks about Hiroshima.

Listen to this Skype video where he descends into a disgusting, profanity filled tirade. Good natured citizen or vicious online bully? YOU DECIDE, AMERICA.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:38:03
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There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it form his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on somethign came chargign at him threatening to kill him and pulls out somehtign from his coat what the cop can't identify becaus eit was night.

That's different. If the cops' safety is threatened, then it's reasonable for them to defend themselves with reasonable force.

From what we know of this case however, the suspect wasn't running at the cop, they were running away. Supposedly with their hands in the air.

Ya but we don't know what he was doing when running. He could acted like he was reaching for something. We don't know if he was yelling threats at the cops. It could been he was running at someone and the cop thought he was going try take a hostage. The point is we don't know but people automatically jump to the most extreme conclusion and in this case reaction without any real info. I mean it really could been a unjustified shooting but people don't know and it is unreasonable how people are acting.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:46:38
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Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson on Friday said the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown was not aware that the unarmed 18-year-old was accused of robbing a convenience store just minutes before the shooting.

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Jackson said that "the initial contact with Brown was not related to the robbery." Jackson also clarified that Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown, wasn't even responding to a call about the robbery as initially reported. Wilson instead stopped Brown because he was jaywalking.

So whats the excuse now?'

Jaywalking, lulz.

Well generally if someone who just committed a crime has a cop come up to them for any reason they aren't just gonna behave in a normal manner. We just don't know what actually went down or how the guy reacted to be jumping to such conclusions. It could been completely a unjustified shooting but people just don't know for the extreme reaction they been doing. Years ago I think it was in LA that there was a court verdict on a black guy or something people didn't like. People started rioting. One group of these same people rioting over unfairness pull a truck driver out of his truck and beat him nearly to death over it right on camera. Is this considered a reasonable reaction?

It comes down to the media adds fuel to the fire to get ratings and people jump to extreme conclusions immediately and a mob mentality not considering anything else.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:51:39
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I always wondered what the media would pull up on me if I got murdered by cops.

25 year old male suspected of stealing Fafnirs and MPKing rival HNMLS'. Witnesses state he laughed at the wipes of other LS' and spammed '*** you' in Japanese while making insensitive remarks about Hiroshima.

Listen to this Skype video where he descends into a disgusting, profanity filled tirade. Good natured citizen or vicious online bully? YOU DECIDE, AMERICA.

Funny I kind had something like that happen. Was a lead and he was the whm. He just takes off zoning out while we are fighting a nm leaving everyone to die as he basically just laughed. Shell broke because he was riping people off and taking items for himself.

Edit: well except it was his own ls.
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