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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:45:48
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.
Yeah, but if you're Asian at all, you're ALL-Asian.
Ask Steve Byrne. Half Irish, half Korean.
Meanwhile he gets less Irish love than your average "Irish only St. Patrick's Day only" German/Swedish mix from Boston.

I mean, come on. Not JUST half Irish, but a hockey fan.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-15 12:50:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.
And instantly become one of the worst drivers alive.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:51:43
So thats why MH370 vanished...
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:52:08
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.
And instantly become one of the worst drivers alive.
I can provide empirical evidence that you don't need to be Asian for this. Come to U.S. Route 30 through Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania any day of the *** week.
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By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:56:49
We need to create police officer better !
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:58:24
We need to create police officerpeople better!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 13:05:21
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Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.
He also twirls a mean gun.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 13:16:47
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »YouTube Video Placeholder
Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.
He also twirls a mean gun.
Liked him better as a serial killer in Psych.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 13:17:33
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 13:18:27
Lol, the Terminator theme for the theatrical trailer.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 13:22:39
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »YouTube Video Placeholder
Can't wait for humans to be phased out and Robocop to be deployed to clean up the mean streets.
He also twirls a mean gun.
Liked him better as a serial killer in Psych.
I liked him in Star Trek: Into Darkness, and also in season 5 of 24. He has an intimidating presence.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-08-15 13:25:23
Those cameras are the worst.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-15 14:00:38
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »The magic of white privilege. Honestly Sparth, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen you post.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 14:08:23
Turns out this sweet innocent wonderful kid had just robed a convenience store before the shooting.
http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 14:15:39
I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.
Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 14:20:47
Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges.
By Enuyasha 2014-08-15 14:27:00
Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges. I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.
I really hate how people are using this as a civil rights movement when really its an across the board local government problem. All these neo-african revolutionaries popping out of the woodwork to give the world a show instead of moving forward and progressing.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 14:42:55
Look, it's always going to be racially charged when you have a white cop shoot an unarmed, black teenager. Whether it was racially motivated or not.
Right know we have a country where a the police force is increasingly militarized, belligerent, and seemingly ready to pull the trigger at a moment's notice.
That doesn't mix well with a frequently urban, poor, black population that's constantly under suspicion for a host of poverty-associated crimes, and as such has cyclically grown more and more suspicious of police due to the suspicion cast upon them by others.
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By volkom 2014-08-15 15:06:10
Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges. I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.
I'm not exactly familiar with the law when it comes to things that drop into that grey area of what can you do to an officer that results into an 'assault on officer' crime... but I'm pretty sure just the motion of attempting to grab an officer's weapon warrants an immediate armed response as it is presumed to be a dangerous situation. The officer doesn't know what the person will do if he manages to take the gun away. But wouldn't it be considered a felony?
By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:14:05
Even if he did, it turns out robbing a store isn't a capital offense, much less one that warrants being shot to death before you're even officially brought in on charges. I mean, if the kid grabbed for the cops gun as people claim it still doesnt warrant an armed response. BUT, if the suspect was presumed armed and/or dangerous and he did some stupid ***like reach inconspicuously on his person or some other stupid ***these kids do, then i can understand its up to the cops judgement on the perceived threat.
I really hate how people are using this as a civil rights movement when really its an across the board local government problem. All these neo-african revolutionaries popping out of the woodwork to give the world a show instead of moving forward and progressing.
There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it from his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on something came charging at him threatening to kill him and pulls out something from his coat. The cop can't identify it because it was night. He talks about how he has to take into account his own safety the safety of bystanders among any number of other things in seconds. It ends up turning out to be a toothbrush the guy was threatening the cop with. Of course there was plenty of bystanders all standing there ready with their camera phone if he had shot the guy not knowing what the object was. You have the media that completely ignore any of this and each time they retell it they leave stuff out to make it more and more of a sensationalist story to get people to read or watch. In the end it will never be known what actually happen and what situation the cop was put in and if it was justified or not. All there is to go on is the word of the cop and word of bystanders that will go with a mob mentality and embellish storys out of excitement.
I once had a guy break into a enclosed back walkway of my apt trying hide from cops after committing theft and injuring a child. When the cops saw him hiding there my neighbor comes out and starts shouting at the cops to shoot him shoot him with no idea what is going on even though it was nowhere near his apt. This just shows the kind of reaction people will have to things.
Another one was a cop got stabbed at a park when he tried stopping a guy who was suspected of breaking into a car. The cop held onto the guy till help got there but ended up dying from his wounds. If he had used his gun his family wouldn't been left without a father now.
The point is people don't know what the situation actually was and jump to conclusions without even considering what might actually happened. If anything can blame the media since they go out of their way to blow things up as much as they can inciting people by making the most sensational storys they can by leaving information out or twisting it. Same way they do with whenever there's a school shooting or similar. They were specifically told by their own hired experts not to make them nation news but keep it local because it leads to copycats. People wanting the same kind of attention. They of course choose to completely ignore this advice.
In the end people dunno what did happen but the reaction been completely out of line. Oh also apparently all the people being arrested for looting and other crimes aren't even from the area. They been coming there to take advantage of the protesting to commit crimes hoping not to get caught.
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By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:20:29
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.
Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either. Alleged and suspected, yes. I remember when a coworker got stopped by East Haven, CT police on his way home from work one day. Apparently, he was unarmed, minding his own business, but, guess what? That's right. Exactly *** right. He "fit the description" of a suspect in a recent robbery in the area. One of the two cops grabbed'im by the neck and proceeded to use force when he asked them for evidence they might've had, such as a picture or some form of video proving they had any actual reason to stop him while he was walking home from work.
Most cops are real dickbags these days. Granted you'll meet a few who actually do their jobs and take the work seriously, but most use their badge as a shield to defend them while they bruteforce their will on those they've sworn to serve and protect.
That having been said, it's possible he might have merely just been in the area where that robbery happened, but unless we get actual surveillance video proving he did it, I'm siding with those supporting the boy's family, and think the Ferguson police department needs to be dismantled entirely and redone from the ground up. Root out and fire all the racist, crooked cops in that entire department, take their guns away, the whole nine yards.
It has a Surveillance video right on the article clearly showing his height the clothes he wearing his build the red cap he's wearing and even a direct angle of his face that can easily be cleaned up. Not to mention him intimidating and shoving the store clerk who tried to stop him.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 15:29:16
There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it form his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on somethign came chargign at him threatening to kill him and pulls out somehtign from his coat what the cop can't identify becaus eit was night.
That's different. If the cops' safety is threatened, then it's reasonable for them to defend themselves with reasonable force.
From what we know of this case however, the suspect wasn't running at the cop, they were running away. Supposedly with their hands in the air.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 15:32:23
Quote: Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson on Friday said the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown was not aware that the unarmed 18-year-old was accused of robbing a convenience store just minutes before the shooting.
Quote: Jackson said that "the initial contact with Brown was not related to the robbery." Jackson also clarified that Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown, wasn't even responding to a call about the robbery as initially reported. Wilson instead stopped Brown because he was jaywalking.
So whats the excuse now?'
Jaywalking, lulz.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-15 15:33:27
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
I think you missed the words alleged and suspected in that article.
Not saying he didn't do it, but can't say that he did either. Alleged and suspected, yes. I remember when a coworker got stopped by East Haven, CT police on his way home from work one day. Apparently, he was unarmed, minding his own business, but, guess what? That's right. Exactly *** right. He "fit the description" of a suspect in a recent robbery in the area. One of the two cops grabbed'im by the neck and proceeded to use force when he asked them for evidence they might've had, such as a picture or some form of video proving they had any actual reason to stop him while he was walking home from work.
Most cops are real dickbags these days. Granted you'll meet a few who actually do their jobs and take the work seriously, but most use their badge as a shield to defend them while they bruteforce their will on those they've sworn to serve and protect.
That having been said, it's possible he might have merely just been in the area where that robbery happened, but unless we get actual surveillance video proving he did it, I'm siding with those supporting the boy's family, and think the Ferguson police department needs to be dismantled entirely and redone from the ground up. Root out and fire all the racist, crooked cops in that entire department, take their guns away, the whole nine yards.
It has a Surveillance video right on the article clearly showing his height the clothes he wearing his build the red cap he's wearing and even a direct angle of his face that can easily be cleaned up. Not to mention him intimidating and shoving the store clerk who tried to stop him.
And that's where a court of law would have come into play. It's the cops' job to gather evidence and make arrests - but it's up to the court to decide whether the evidence proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the suspect committed the crime. Unfortunately it never got that far.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 15:36:35
I always wondered what the media would pull up on me if I got murdered by cops.
25 year old male suspected of stealing Fafnirs and MPKing rival HNMLS'. Witnesses state he laughed at the wipes of other LS' and spammed '*** you' in Japanese while making insensitive remarks about Hiroshima.
Listen to this Skype video where he descends into a disgusting, profanity filled tirade. Good natured citizen or vicious online bully? YOU DECIDE, AMERICA.
By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:38:03
There was a story on reddit by a cop who was put in this kind of situation telling it form his side not the version the media makes it into for ratings. Where a person high on somethign came chargign at him threatening to kill him and pulls out somehtign from his coat what the cop can't identify becaus eit was night.
That's different. If the cops' safety is threatened, then it's reasonable for them to defend themselves with reasonable force.
From what we know of this case however, the suspect wasn't running at the cop, they were running away. Supposedly with their hands in the air.
Ya but we don't know what he was doing when running. He could acted like he was reaching for something. We don't know if he was yelling threats at the cops. It could been he was running at someone and the cop thought he was going try take a hostage. The point is we don't know but people automatically jump to the most extreme conclusion and in this case reaction without any real info. I mean it really could been a unjustified shooting but people don't know and it is unreasonable how people are acting.
By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:46:38
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Quote: Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson on Friday said the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown was not aware that the unarmed 18-year-old was accused of robbing a convenience store just minutes before the shooting.
Quote: Jackson said that "the initial contact with Brown was not related to the robbery." Jackson also clarified that Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown, wasn't even responding to a call about the robbery as initially reported. Wilson instead stopped Brown because he was jaywalking.
So whats the excuse now?'
Jaywalking, lulz.
Well generally if someone who just committed a crime has a cop come up to them for any reason they aren't just gonna behave in a normal manner. We just don't know what actually went down or how the guy reacted to be jumping to such conclusions. It could been completely a unjustified shooting but people just don't know for the extreme reaction they been doing. Years ago I think it was in LA that there was a court verdict on a black guy or something people didn't like. People started rioting. One group of these same people rioting over unfairness pull a truck driver out of his truck and beat him nearly to death over it right on camera. Is this considered a reasonable reaction?
It comes down to the media adds fuel to the fire to get ratings and people jump to extreme conclusions immediately and a mob mentality not considering anything else.
By Heimdel 2014-08-15 15:51:39
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I always wondered what the media would pull up on me if I got murdered by cops.
25 year old male suspected of stealing Fafnirs and MPKing rival HNMLS'. Witnesses state he laughed at the wipes of other LS' and spammed '*** you' in Japanese while making insensitive remarks about Hiroshima.
Listen to this Skype video where he descends into a disgusting, profanity filled tirade. Good natured citizen or vicious online bully? YOU DECIDE, AMERICA.
Funny I kind had something like that happen. Was a lead and he was the whm. He just takes off zoning out while we are fighting a nm leaving everyone to die as he basically just laughed. Shell broke because he was riping people off and taking items for himself.
Edit: well except it was his own ls.
To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
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The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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