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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 11:36:52
I blame violent video games. I bet the officer was playing GTA V before he shot this kid.
Which would be truly, truly serendipitous, given the amount of people worrying their lives away that anti-establishment/violent video games, music, and movies will encourage children to go out and shoot police officers.
Paged Edit: My homeboy. Though I liked him better before they gave him a name in subsequent games.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 11:39:38
Dammit. Double posting.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 11:40:10
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »With all the problems in this world right now.... a few people that may or may not be innocent being killed by a police officer is a very very very small thing to be worried about.
News media: "Hey guys a unarmed kid was killed by a Police officer! Lets take all the attention away from whats happening In Gaza, Iraq asking us for aid, and North Korea launching Missiles, So we can focus on this, that will take all the attention away from those things that are way way way way way more important".
Sadly it does.....
You realize the reason these shootings get press is because of the very racist policies and institutions we have set up in America right? Go speak to most brown people and see what they have to say about cops - it ain't good.
I suppose all brown people just don't like law enforcement or something about the nature of law enforcement begets the opposite emotions they're supposed to evoke as public servants. I'm going with the latter.
Personally, I don't feel safe with cops and speaking to cop doubly so. In large groups? I don't care. One on one with a cop? You have to go out of your way to seem like you're not threatening because in this country you're always two motions away from 'reaching for gun!' FIRE FIRE FIRE BLAT BLAT BLAT.
By fonewear 2014-08-15 11:40:16
The governor is white therefore racist !
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 11:42:22
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »With all the problems in this world right now.... a few people that may or may not be innocent being killed by a police officer is a very very very small thing to be worried about.
News media: "Hey guys a unarmed kid was killed by a Police officer! Lets take all the attention away from whats happening In Gaza, Iraq asking us for aid, and North Korea launching Missiles, So we can focus on this, that will take all the attention away from those things that are way way way way way more important".
Sadly it does.....
You realize the reason these shootings get press is because of the very racist policies and institutions we have set up in America right? Go speak to most brown people and see what they have to say about cops - it ain't good.
I suppose all brown people just don't like law enforcement or something about the nature of law enforcement begets the opposite emotions they're supposed to evoke as public servants. I'm going with the latter.
Personally, I don't feel safe with cops and speaking to cop doubly so. In large groups? I don't care. One on one with a cop? You have to go out of your way to seem like you're not threatening because in this country you're always two motions away from 'reaching for gun!' FIRE FIRE FIRE BLAT BLAT BLAT.
I'm more comfortable around them than you, apparently, but it's probably because I'm a white male that's been raised around them and friends with them in the past.
It's really not hard for a reasonable person to understand why those raised in a bad neighborhood, even if they're completely innocent of absolutely any wrongdoing, would be hesitant and feel very unsafe around police officers in those areas.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-15 11:46:25
You guys are all fools. This entire "defenseless gentle giant shot dead by racist police" Is just a meme used by race baiters and members of the main stream media who want to line their pockets.
They dangle out the racism bait and everyone goes nuts. Nothing but sheep! Now the truth doesn't even matter, everyone's too full of rage to care. Free yourselves from the shackles
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 11:48:37
You guys are all fools. This entire "defenseless gentle giant shot dead by racist police" Is just a meme used by race baiters and members of the main stream media who want to line their pockets.
They dangle out the racism bait and everyone goes nuts. Nothing but sheep! Now the truth doesn't even matter, everyone's too full of rage to care. Free yourselves from the shackles
Ugh. We had such a good thing going on. I had been agreeing with you through several threads.
And then the upper-1-percent-lapdog version of Nausi came back.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 11:52:52
This case doesn't matter. Most brown people do not feel safe around police officers regardless of race or gender because the policy from up high is pretty much to stereotype and harass law abiding citizens. Worse off in the disgustingly racist criminal justice system. These incidents merely highlight an underlying disconnect between public servants and their alleged patrons.
But keep trying to dodge race because it makes you feel uncomfortable Nausi, I'm sure you think everyone is really 'equal' and entire groups of people are just looking to whine for the sake of whining. lol
You pretty much learn from a young age 'round here that if you see a cop, you better immediately appear completely non-threatening because these cops are out here looking for anything to meet quota or discharge a service weapon. Worse when you're trying to go to work in a suit 'n tie only to get felt up by some *** with a badge.
What one should feel is safe around the police and willing to work with them to make your community better. You know, like 'ol Sheriff Andy but reality is anything but that. I'm more likely to get chokeslammed than help some cops nab a criminal.
By volkom 2014-08-15 11:55:57
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people
By Artemicion 2014-08-15 11:58:40
You guys are all fools. This entire "defenseless gentle giant shot dead by racist police" Is just a meme used by race baiters and members of the main stream media who want to line their pockets.
They dangle out the racism bait and everyone goes nuts. Nothing but sheep! Now the truth doesn't even matter, everyone's too full of rage to care. Free yourselves from the shackles
Poe's Law is hitting me hard with this one.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:00:55
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people
I hope it's comprised of open-minded people ready to hear facts objectively.
Pipe dream, that.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:02:19
You guys are all fools. This entire "defenseless gentle giant shot dead by racist police" Is just a meme used by race baiters and members of the main stream media who want to line their pockets.
They dangle out the racism bait and everyone goes nuts. Nothing but sheep! Now the truth doesn't even matter, everyone's too full of rage to care. Free yourselves from the shackles
Poe's Law is hitting me hard with this one.
Also, it's funny you say "racism bait", as people have been circulating a picture of a young gang banger around the internet saying it's the victim in this shooting, but it's not him at all.
Sort of further exemplifying the "they all look like criminals to me" mindset of some of the less-enlightened of our country.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-15 12:02:35
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »'round here
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:10:29
I'm convinced Nausi is Archie Bunker.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-15 12:17:25
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people I hope the jury is all Mexican.
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By volkom 2014-08-15 12:23:10
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people I hope the jury is all Mexican.
just reminded me of this:
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-15 12:24:22
Even Archie Bunker isn't that racist.
Then again, I'm surprised this went 5 pages without any reference to
1. The Boondocks
2. The Boondock Saints.
3. South Park.
Among any and all other potentially relevant memes.
"I'm Uncle Ruckus. No Relations."
By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:24:39
All this for a box of Swisher sweets !
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By volkom 2014-08-15 12:25:27
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Even Archie Bunker isn't that racist.
Then again, I'm surprised this went 5 pages without any reference to
1. The Boondocks
2. The Boondock Saints.
3. South Park.
Among any and all other potentially relevant memes.
"I'm Uncle Ruckus. No Relations."
you just had to ruin it
By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:26:08
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people I hope the jury is all Mexican.
just reminded me of this:

I can't read this pie chart please.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-15 12:26:22
the man's not interested in holding down a specific race. the man is interested in holding down the poor. he's stroking a cat, laughing maniacally while all the chumps fight about race when they're all just as subjugated as the next.
suckers.
By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:27:56
i hope the jury is comprised of half black half white people I hope the jury is all Mexican.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:28:52
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »'round here
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Prefer the Counting Crows song of the same name.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:33:21
the man's not interested in holding down a specific race. the man is interested in holding down the poor. he's stroking a cat, laughing maniacally while all the chumps fight about race when they're all just as subjugated as the next.
suckers.
A pity that no matter how educated or well dressed you are, you can't change being brown and the stereotypes that comes with. See: home loans, employment, interactions with the police etc.
Alternatively, a poor white person need only dress well and not give away that well.. they're broke. Fit in with the herd and enjoy all the boons of not being lumped under 'ethnic' in some manner. The magic of white privilege.
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By fonewear 2014-08-15 12:35:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »the man's not interested in holding down a specific race. the man is interested in holding down the poor. he's stroking a cat, laughing maniacally while all the chumps fight about race when they're all just as subjugated as the next.
suckers.
A pity that no matter how educated or well dressed you are, you can't change being brown and the stereotypes that comes with. See: home loans, employment, interactions with the police etc.
Alternatively, a poor white person need only dress well and not give away that well.. they're broke. Fit in with the herd and enjoy all the boons of not being lumped under 'ethnic' in some manner.
That is why I refuse to go to tanning beds...judge not by the color of one's tan but by the content of their character.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:36:06
The paler you are, the more powerful you can become!
Albinos are the master race.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-15 12:37:49
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-15 12:37:53
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »the man's not interested in holding down a specific race. the man is interested in holding down the poor. he's stroking a cat, laughing maniacally while all the chumps fight about race when they're all just as subjugated as the next.
suckers.
A pity that no matter how educated or well dressed you are, you can't change being brown and the stereotypes that comes with. See: home loans, employment, interactions with the police etc.
Alternatively, a poor white person need only dress well and not give away that well.. they're broke. Fit in with the herd and enjoy all the boons of not being lumped under 'ethnic' in some manner.
That is why I refuse to go to tanning beds...judge not by the color of one's tan but by the content of their character.
Even I'm bias against orange people. Indoor tanning is *** stupid.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-15 12:41:20
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-15 12:42:02
All I want is asian status. No one knows you exist and police officers routinely become confused by your appearance in this universe.
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To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
Quote:
The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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