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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 13:22:49
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Okay, seriously. It's been a while and a picture of Idris Elba has no [+]? You dudes are all too straight, and you ladies all have poor taste.

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By fonewear 2014-08-18 13:39:30
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-18 13:56:44
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This thread needs some global warming debate.

Let's see how well the CAGW hypothesis is doing:
1) No global warming trend for 18 years
2) Falling global temp trends for 14 yrs
3) Next month, th Antarctic will break the largest ice extent ever recorded.
4) The Arctic sea ice is recovering in volume and size.
5) IPCC's AR5 report released last year admits no increase in global severe weather in 50~100 yrs.
6) US sets record for the longest time without a CAT3 making US landfall in 150 years (3,200 days).
7) Sea rise rate fell 30% over last 10 yrs.
8) Sea Level Rise stuck at 6" per century

Meanwhile: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727734/Wet-cold-bank-holiday-way-forecasters-warn-two-weeks-bad-weather-ahead.html
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-18 13:58:42
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Well, the polar ice caps are white, so maybe we can work that into this thread somehow?
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-18 14:01:10
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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I believe the only confirmed facts are that he was shot outside the vehicle and unarmed. There is still question as to if he was shot with his hands in the air, as his friend was the only eyewitness to that, and if his friend was an accomplice to the crime committed prior, that taints his testimony greatly.
Another confirmed fact: He was shot six times. what was probably the last bullet entered through the top of his head, indicating that he was either bent over or falling over forward at the time.

The New York Times is reporting that the results of a family-requested autopsy on Michael Brown show that the Ferguson, Missouri, teen was shot at least six times by police officer Darren Wilson
- Slate

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Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Department of Justice would conduct a third autopsy.

Why would there need to be a third autopsy? Wouldn't the first one be sufficient enough to determine the means of death, and the second one be sufficient enough for a forensic account of the events that took place?

Everyone is innocent before proven guilty, you said it yourself. Also, if there's a reasonable doubt it always benefit to the defendant. 3 autopsies are better than 1.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-08-18 14:04:30
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Everyone is innocent before proven guilty, you said it yourself. Also, if there's a reasonable doubt it always benefit to the defendant. 3 autopsies are better than 1.


'cause 2 out of 3 ain't bad ~
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By volkom 2014-08-18 14:04:55
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Altimaomega said: »
This thread needs some global warming debate.

Let's see how well the CAGW hypothesis is doing:
1) No global warming trend for 18 years cuz of global cooling!
2) Falling global temp trends for 14 yrs cuz of global warming!
3) Next month, the Antarctic will break the largest ice extent ever recorded. poor polar bears will drown!
4) The Arctic sea ice is recovering in volume and size. poor polar bears will drown!
5) IPCC's AR5 report released last year admits no increase in global severe weather in 50~100 yrs. global warming is a myth!
6) US sets record for the longest time without a CAT3 making US landfall in 150 years (3,200 days). woo
7) Sea rise rate fell 30% over last 10 yrs. effects of global warming!
8) Sea Level Rise stuck at 6" per century blame polar bears

Meanwhile: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727734/Wet-cold-bank-holiday-way-forecasters-warn-two-weeks-bad-weather-ahead.html
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-18 14:05:18
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Also, I think I saw that he was shot from the front? If so, that would poke a mighty large hole in the eyewitness account.
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By volkom 2014-08-18 14:07:48
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he was shot in the front. in the front facing forearms/face area
not the underside of the forearms as if he had his hands up like he was surrendering
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:09:37
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Altimaomega said: »
This thread needs some global warming debate.

Let's see how well the CAGW hypothesis is doing:
1) No global warming trend for 18 years
2) Falling global temp trends for 14 yrs
3) Next month, th Antarctic will break the largest ice extent ever recorded.
4) The Arctic sea ice is recovering in volume and size.
5) IPCC's AR5 report released last year admits no increase in global severe weather in 50~100 yrs.
6) US sets record for the longest time without a CAT3 making US landfall in 150 years (3,200 days).
7) Sea rise rate fell 30% over last 10 yrs.
8) Sea Level Rise stuck at 6" per century

Meanwhile: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727734/Wet-cold-bank-holiday-way-forecasters-warn-two-weeks-bad-weather-ahead.html

You need to get better at derailing.

You can't just randomly change topics and start with your statvomit.

You've got to ease into it.

...I bet the ladies don't like you much, just shoving things in there suddenly like that.

Edit: Also, if you're using the Daily Mail as a news source, may as well start posting stories about Bat Boy, too.

I swear some people.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-18 14:14:02
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volkom said: »
he was shot in the front. in the front facing forearms/face area
not the underside of the forearms as if he had his hands up like he was surrendering
Didn't think of that.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-08-18 14:18:10
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Speaking of derailing. Or rerailing. Or rederailing.




And I can't believe no-one has mentioned:

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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:20:45
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Fenrir.Squintik said: »
Speaking of derailing. Or rerailing. Or rederailing.




And I can't believe no-one has mentioned:


Dammit. Firewall blocking second image. Whoooo?
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-18 14:20:51
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volkom said: »
he was shot in the front. in the front facing forearms/face area
not the underside of the forearms as if he had his hands up like he was surrendering

Maybe he had been shot without warning.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2014-08-18 14:21:54
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What do the witnesses say they heard?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-18 14:23:47
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Altimaomega said: »
This thread needs some global warming debate.

Let's see how well the CAGW hypothesis is doing:
1) No global warming trend for 18 years
2) Falling global temp trends for 14 yrs
3) Next month, th Antarctic will break the largest ice extent ever recorded.
4) The Arctic sea ice is recovering in volume and size.
5) IPCC's AR5 report released last year admits no increase in global severe weather in 50~100 yrs.
6) US sets record for the longest time without a CAT3 making US landfall in 150 years (3,200 days).
7) Sea rise rate fell 30% over last 10 yrs.
8) Sea Level Rise stuck at 6" per century

Meanwhile: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727734/Wet-cold-bank-holiday-way-forecasters-warn-two-weeks-bad-weather-ahead.html
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-08-18 14:23:55
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Fenrir.Squintik said: »
Speaking of derailing. Or rerailing. Or rederailing.




And I can't believe no-one has mentioned:


Dammit. Firewall blocking second image. Whoooo?

Was working at first when I posted it, now I'm blocked too for some reason.

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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-08-18 14:24:56
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Autopsy results enough to charge officer, Brown family attorney says - CNN

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Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- An independent autopsy into the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, provides "ample" evidence to support the arrest of the police officer who shot him, family attorney Daryl Parks said Monday at a news conference

Parks was particularly concerned about gunshots that medical examiners hired by the family indicate came from behind and above....

The autopsy could support witnesses' suggestions that Brown was holding his hands up in the air, said Shawn Purcell, who assisted in the autopsy. But other scenarios are possible, said Dr. Michael Baden, who supervised the inquiry....

The independent autopsy was conducted by high-profile pathologist Michael Baden, who testified in the O.J. Simpson, Phil Spector and Drew Peterson murder trials.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:25:47
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Ahh, ScoJo.

I think people don't want to be accused of going for the easy answer?

I dunno. She is crazy good looking. But I actually know very little of her personality, or how she acts off camera. You'd think for someone as famous as her, you'd see more interviews or quotes, but I never do.

Same for Kate Upton.


Edit: actually, one of the biggest things for me when it comes to actresses is seeing them without makeup. I hate makeup; it's such a...I don't want to say "lie", because it's a fact of life when you're an actor or actress. It's part of the fantasy of the fiction you're portraying. But it can change the way you look significantly.

ScoJo, Jennifer Lawrence, and Hillary Duff actually are three of the better-looking I've seen sans makeup.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-18 14:27:04
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Hearing he was shot 6 times, not sure why its necessary to shoot a person 6 times, regardless of the situation.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:27:42
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Autopsy results enough to charge officer, Brown family attorney says - CNN

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Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- An independent autopsy into the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, provides "ample" evidence to support the arrest of the police officer who shot him, family attorney Daryl Parks said Monday at a news conference

Parks was particularly concerned about gunshots that medical examiners hired by the family indicate came from behind and above....

The autopsy could support witnesses' suggestions that Brown was holding his hands up in the air, said Shawn Purcell, who assisted in the autopsy. But other scenarios are possible, said Dr. Michael Baden, who supervised the inquiry....

The independent autopsy was conducted by high-profile pathologist Michael Baden, who testified in the O.J. Simpson, Phil Spector and Drew Peterson murder trials.

I foresee a lot of evidence being thrown out as three different forensic experts just sit and try to prove their evidence is the properly-reached and conclusive evidence, while a fourth and fifth who didn't actually examine the body itself will be hired merely to try to discredit the others.

It happens more frequently than you may realize.

Basically, it will be a lot like a P&R thread.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-08-18 14:30:48
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Basically, it will be a lot like a P&R thread.

Except they'll probably stay on-topic.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:31:59
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Fenrir.Squintik said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Basically, it will be a lot like a P&R thread.

Except they'll probably stay on-topic.

Ehhh. Questionable. I mean, they are trying to discredit each other.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-18 14:36:15
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
But really; "mentally stable" girls nag you to paint the windows this new shade of blue that matches the perennials she put in last winter. They want you to stop buying Nerf weapons because they're for children. They want you to pay $50,000 for a wedding that's not even fun for anyone to attend. They want to have babies and families and stop having sex on a regular basis.

Seriously. Don't go for full psychosis or severe personality disorders, but slightly broken people are far, far more fun than the straight-laced ones can ever dream of being.

Or maybe I just went for someone just like me. Who knows?

I'm rarely described as anything but straight-laced, so I married a woman with a little spice. She keeps me from being a robot, but we definitely have a Dharma and Greg thing going on.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:39:56
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
But really; "mentally stable" girls nag you to paint the windows this new shade of blue that matches the perennials she put in last winter. They want you to stop buying Nerf weapons because they're for children. They want you to pay $50,000 for a wedding that's not even fun for anyone to attend. They want to have babies and families and stop having sex on a regular basis.

Seriously. Don't go for full psychosis or severe personality disorders, but slightly broken people are far, far more fun than the straight-laced ones can ever dream of being.

Or maybe I just went for someone just like me. Who knows?

I'm rarely described as anything but straight-laced, so I married a woman with a little spice. She keeps me from being a robot, but we definitely have a Dharma and Greg thing going on.

My wife and I are pretty much as alike as you can get, and it's mostly just become more so after 16 years. I can't imagine being with someone my opposite. I don't get it.

Why would you want a spouse who doesn't want to play games with you? Or who wants to decorate the house when you're trying to watch a hockey or football game? Why would you want a spouse you can't hold an intelligent discussion with you about topics in which you're mutually interested?

Sex is great, yeah. Good looks are great, yeah. But...if that's all you've got between you is physical attraction, that seems really *** lame. I don't get it.
By volkom 2014-08-18 14:40:08
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Autopsy results enough to charge officer, Brown family attorney says - CNN

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Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- An independent autopsy into the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, provides "ample" evidence to support the arrest of the police officer who shot him, family attorney Daryl Parks said Monday at a news conference

Parks was particularly concerned about gunshots that medical examiners hired by the family indicate came from behind and above....

The autopsy could support witnesses' suggestions that Brown was holding his hands up in the air, said Shawn Purcell, who assisted in the autopsy. But other scenarios are possible, said Dr. Michael Baden, who supervised the inquiry....

The independent autopsy was conducted by high-profile pathologist Michael Baden, who testified in the O.J. Simpson, Phil Spector and Drew Peterson murder trials.

I foresee a lot of evidence being thrown out as three different forensic experts just sit and try to prove their evidence is the properly-reached and conclusive evidence, while a fourth and fifth who didn't actually examine the body itself will be hired merely to try to discredit the others.

It happens more frequently than you may realize.

Basically, it will be a lot like a P&R thread.

LOL what?! How can the officer shoot the guy from above and behind. Was the officer on top of his car with a scope on his pistol? That's the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing I heard of today.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-18 14:41:00
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Altimaomega said: »
This thread needs some global warming debate.

Let's see how well the CAGW hypothesis is doing:
1) No global warming trend for 18 years
2) Falling global temp trends for 14 yrs


1. *buzz* patently false in every possible way.
2. Just because the rate of increase has slowed doesn't mean it's not still increasing at an alarming rate. I was never very good with that speech exercise where you describe to someone how to tie their shoe... So a sports car accelerates from 0 to 150 MPH, from 0-60 it's accelerating at a much higher rate than it will from 100-150, but to say that it's not accelerating from 100-150 is asinine.

I got bored of your nonsense at number 2 and dozed off...
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-18 14:41:03
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volkom said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Autopsy results enough to charge officer, Brown family attorney says - CNN

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Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- An independent autopsy into the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, provides "ample" evidence to support the arrest of the police officer who shot him, family attorney Daryl Parks said Monday at a news conference

Parks was particularly concerned about gunshots that medical examiners hired by the family indicate came from behind and above....

The autopsy could support witnesses' suggestions that Brown was holding his hands up in the air, said Shawn Purcell, who assisted in the autopsy. But other scenarios are possible, said Dr. Michael Baden, who supervised the inquiry....

The independent autopsy was conducted by high-profile pathologist Michael Baden, who testified in the O.J. Simpson, Phil Spector and Drew Peterson murder trials.

I foresee a lot of evidence being thrown out as three different forensic experts just sit and try to prove their evidence is the properly-reached and conclusive evidence, while a fourth and fifth who didn't actually examine the body itself will be hired merely to try to discredit the others.

It happens more frequently than you may realize.

Basically, it will be a lot like a P&R thread.

LOL what?! How can the officer shoot the guy from above and behind. Was the officer on top of his car with a scope on his pistol? That's the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing I heard of today.

There was a report that he was shot in the head after he was down on the ground.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-08-18 14:41:39
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volkom said: »
LOL what?! How can the officer shoot the guy from above and behind. Was the officer on top of his car with a scope on his pistol? That's the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing I heard of today.

But.... there are magic bullets! The JFK trial proved that.
By volkom 2014-08-18 14:42:39
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Fenrir.Squintik said: »
volkom said: »
LOL what?! How can the officer shoot the guy from above and behind. Was the officer on top of his car with a scope on his pistol? That's the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE thing I heard of today.

But.... there are magic bullets! The JFK trial proved that.
nah man~ magneto tried to save JFK but he was too late. that's how the bullets curved
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