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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-08-11 13:16:01
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Most women dress the way they do to impress other women.
And men, as a means to mate.
Only in certain contexts. In most everyday situations, our gloriously homosocial culture worries exclusively about how we appear to our peers who are almost always of the same sex as we ourselves. If someone is dressed rather well at the office or the grocery store or the theatre (which may or may not be "sexy," whatever the hell that means), it's generally not an invitation to possible sexual contact. If you're going to ladies' night at the local bar, on the other hand, only the stone-dumbest *** on the planet would walk in looking attractive and not expect a certain amount of response.

But even in that context it doesn't make it right to do anything to that person. And having been the victim of unwanted groping (and worse), I just want that to be clear. I may be dressing to attract attention, but it's still my body and I still decide what happens to it. And if I get falling down drunk and you decide to take advantage of that, it's a felony. My bad decision does not obviate someone else's criminal acts.

But Comeatmebro will still dump you because of your social faux pas.
As someone who rarely drinks and doesn't understand the appeal of numbing my decision-making faculties, I can't really criticize someone looking askance on me if I've passed out in a bar. I live in a neighborhood full of bars and have seen several stupid college-aged girls literally fall down on the sidewalk (and more than a few boys just barely more sober). I wish there was someone I could call to help them, but I don't have enough money to give even a free cab ride to every lush who doesn't know his/her limit.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:16:41
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And don't get me started on makeup either.

There is no way makeup is for anything but other women.
I'm pretty sure Pleebo would disagree with you about that.

But I was referring to psychological needs though.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:17:18
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Also:

Nine Pages!!!!!

Topic is now how makeup contributed to global warming. Go!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 13:17:52
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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And don't get me started on makeup either.

There is no way makeup is for anything but other women.
I'm pretty sure Pleebo would disagree with you about that.

But I was referring to psychological needs though.

Makeup is a lie. A HUGE lie.

Forget photoshop, just look up some of your favorite celeb crushes without makeup.

Life changing.

...though what's most offensive is the ones who are still unbelievably hot without makeup/etc.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 13:18:48
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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And don't get me started on makeup either.

There is no way makeup is for anything but other women.
I'm pretty sure Pleebo would disagree with you about that.

But I was referring to psychological needs though.
what is that supposed to mean?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:19:42
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What is that supposed to mean?
You pretend to be a scientist, so why don't you go read up on the subject.

Or do you consider Psychology to not be a science?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-11 13:20:44
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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And don't get me started on makeup either.

There is no way makeup is for anything but other women.
I'm pretty sure Pleebo would disagree with you about that.

But I was referring to psychological needs though.

Mmmm. Still pretty sure it's for other women.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 13:21:14
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... what
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-11 13:22:30
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Makeup is a lie. A HUGE lie.

Forget photoshop, just look up some of your favorite celeb crushes without makeup.

Life changing.

...though what's most offensive is the ones who are still unbelievably hot without makeup/etc.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:23:04
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
... what

Here, let me hold your hand:

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But I was referring to psychological needs though.

Want to read it again?

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But I was referring to psychological needs though.

Here are the key words:

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
psychological needs

Still need help?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 13:35:37
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What special combination of knotted axons and neuron misfires did it take to get you to think I had expressed any opinion at all on women's makeup?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:37:57
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Probably because you pretend to be a scientist and yet, argue for the sake of arguing.

So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-11 13:41:16
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You're merely walking yourself back now. No possibility of sex is implied until she makes a gesture/statement or other signal that sexytimes might be a possibility.

What if they are hanging around a corner at 4am in a thong and a bra with 6-inch heals?

How much an hour and do I get a can of soda with a 50 dollar purchase? What's that Admiral Ackbar? I cant hear you...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 13:41:37
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You're trying to goad me into an argument I don't give a ***about yet I'm the one arguing for the sake of arguing. lulz
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So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 13:43:33
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I just read back the last 4 pages, what a hoot.

There's no basic consensus, except ones you can infer, UNLESS YOU TYPE IT IN ALL CAPS (or yell it).

So nobody will be happy until everyone is walking around naked without any makeup on.

Well thanks to global warming...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:45:42
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
You're trying to goad me into an argument I don't give a ***about yet I'm the one arguing for the sake of arguing. lulz
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.
You were the one who were confused.

Sorry that your limited mind can't comprehend meaning, even though it was sarcastic at first. Maybe next time I should use the sarcasm tags.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-11 13:48:38
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I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-11 13:48:42
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Makeup is just the manifestation of humans wanting to iron out their imperfections.

In small doses, it accents your natural look and helps you *pop*. In large doses, you look like a goddamn clown or marionette. Woe be onto anyone who dates someone who refuses to be seen without makeup for severe self-image issues lay ahead.

That being said, males and females go for it. Just remember you're using 3rd party tools (cheaters!) and aren't a 'real' person like us enlightened folk who shun attempts to look more beautiful. True beauty is within.

#themoreyouknow *----------->*
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-11 13:49:24
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Sorry I'm late! Can someone give me the rundown?

I mean we all think this is an awful thing right?
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-11 13:50:23
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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You're trying to goad me into an argument I don't give a ***about yet I'm the one arguing for the sake of arguing. lulz
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.
You were the one who were confused.

Sorry that your limited mind can't comprehend meaning, even though it was sarcastic at first. Maybe next time I should use the sarcasm tags.

I'm not sure what's the big uproar about Pleebo discrediting that ONE journal article. I mean, there are tons of scholarly articles on false rape accusations, both the psychology and the statistics behind it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:51:02
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sorry I'm late! Can someone give me the rundown?

I mean we all think this is an awful thing right?
Ono thinks that all neocons thinks that consent is irrelevant.

That basically sums up this thread.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-11 13:51:13
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sorry I'm late! Can someone give me the rundown?

I mean we all think this is an awful thing right?

Obama is trying to redefine rape.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-11 13:52:18
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
You're trying to goad me into an argument I don't give a ***about yet I'm the one arguing for the sake of arguing. lulz
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.
You were the one who were confused.

Sorry that your limited mind can't comprehend meaning, even though it was sarcastic at first. Maybe next time I should use the sarcasm tags.

I'm not sure what's the big uproar about Pleebo discrediting that ONE journal article. I mean, there are tons of scholarly articles on false rape accusations, both the psychology and the statistics behind it.
Because he can't find one journal article, all other false-rape studies out there are wrong and he is right.

That's Pleebo in a nutshell.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 13:55:16
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Speaking of not reading posts,
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Still no link to the actual study, no record of it on google scholar, and no archives of the Forensic Science Digest. Don't you find that odd? I'm not arguing either way on rape statistics at this point, but singling out a handful of studies doesn't demonstrate anything significant especially when they appear to report widely different results under differing methods.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-11 13:55:42
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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You're trying to goad me into an argument I don't give a ***about yet I'm the one arguing for the sake of arguing. lulz
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, do you think there is a psychological need for women to wear makeup or not?
I don't care. You can stop trying to get my attention now. It might get confused for consent.
You were the one who were confused.

Sorry that your limited mind can't comprehend meaning, even though it was sarcastic at first. Maybe next time I should use the sarcasm tags.
Fun Fact: 1 in 10 online mental rapes occur because of not using sarcasm tags.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-11 14:01:56
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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Sorry I'm late! Can someone give me the rundown?

I mean we all think this is an awful thing right?

Obama is trying to redefine rape.

So I mean when's the official government consent triplicate form due to roll out and where do I mail my submissions too?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-11 14:02:11
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Can I get an official Derp-to-English translator in here to explain to me what's going on?
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-11 14:05:05
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Can I get an official Derp-to-English translator in here to explain to me what's going on?

Translation:

Resume discussions of beer.

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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-11 14:09:33
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Can I get an official Derp-to-English translator in here to explain to me what's going on?

Official derp > english translation:

A new law can protect victims by limiting ambiguity, naturally the nutjobs start by blaming the victim then move on to citing obscure and incredulous case studies as proof that there are no victims, then someone stops by to blame feminism, and the discussion decays into "Blame Obama" memes and Simpson's clips.
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