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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-03 15:18:38
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You know what Flavin, I give up.

Arguing with you is like trying to dig through clay using a spoon.

I'm not going to argue with you about your perception of words anymore today.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-10-03 15:51:57
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We need an end times thread with doomsayers and ***, this is getting boring - its the same damn argument spread over 32 pages!!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-03 15:54:32
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done.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-10-03 15:56:53
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Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
We need an end times thread with doomsayers and ***, this is getting boring - its the same damn argument spread over 32 pages!!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-10-03 16:00:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
done.
shoot i made one too ><
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
We need an end times thread with doomsayers and ***, this is getting boring - its the same damn argument spread over 32 pages!!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-03 16:02:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You know what Flavin, I give up.

Arguing with you is like trying to dig through clay using a spoon.

I'm not going to argue with you about your perception of words anymore today.
It's not a perception.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-03 16:03:42
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You know what Flavin, I give up.

Arguing with you is like trying to dig through clay using a spoon.

I'm not going to argue with you about your perception of words anymore today.
It's not a perception.
You're right, It's an inference of words and motives that simply aren't there in the first place.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-03 16:09:09
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
The past page AND a half has had a discussion dealing with a text clarification issue.

In a thread bemoaning a law requiring clarifying language rather than body language or silence to be used as consent.

Ironic.

Oh the IRONY...

P.S. Sorry, had to.
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By volkom 2014-10-03 16:10:17
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So in a hypothetical scenario where you try to be safe and minimize any potential risk involved in daily activities. Whats to prevent someone from breaking and entering your home and raping you/hypothetical daughter?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-03 16:12:03
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That depends on if she's ludic enough to affirmatively give consent.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-10-03 16:12:13
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Rapers gonna rape.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-03 16:13:10
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volkom said: »
So in a hypothetical scenario where you try to be safe and minimize any potential risk involved in daily activities. Whats to prevent someone from breaking and entertaining your home and raping you/hypothetical daughter?

Nothing, per se, but that is a different issue altogether. Almost every portion of that scenario is already highly illegal and carries stiff penalties. The act of having sex with a passed out drunk or completely incognizant woman was a gray area prior to this legislation.
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By Blazed1979 2014-10-03 16:13:30
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volkom said: »
So in a hypothetical scenario where you try to be safe and minimize any potential risk involved in daily activities. Whats to prevent someone from breaking and entertaining your home and raping you/hypothetical daughter?
If my couch or fridge ever allowed anyone to entertain them, I would kill those ***!
By volkom 2014-10-03 16:15:13
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Blazed1979 said: »
volkom said: »
So in a hypothetical scenario where you try to be safe and minimize any potential risk involved in daily activities. Whats to prevent someone from breaking and entertaining your home and raping you/hypothetical daughter?
If my couch or fridge ever allowed anyone to entertain them, I would kill those ***!
haha~

(autospell on phone :/)
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-10-03 16:16:43
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
That depends on if she's ludic enough to affirmatively give consent.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-10-03 16:16:54
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Rapers gonna rape.
Sounds like a "never before released" Tupac record.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-10-03 16:31:22
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Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Rapers gonna rape.
Sounds like a "never before released" Tupac record.
It actually reminds me of gun control in a way.

You can have all the laws and nonsense about how evil men are you want, but if someones gonna rape someone, none of that applies.

The sexes of of both parties doesn't really matter. Rape is about dominance, not sex. Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
By volkom 2014-10-03 16:33:09
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Rapers gonna rape.
Sounds like a "never before released" Tupac record.
It actually reminds me of gun control in a way.

You can have all the laws and nonsense about how evil men are you want, but if someones gonna rape someone, none of that applies.

The sexes of of both parties doesn't really matter. Rape is about dominance, not sex. Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
like people raping 13 year old boys in call of duty. gotta show them who's the superior gamer
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-03 16:34:05
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
not in 100% of cases, sometimes it is just about teh booty.

but in the terms of sadists, then yes it is just to torture them, and they get off on that.
By volkom 2014-10-03 16:36:21
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
not in 100% of cases, sometimes it is just about teh booty.

but in the terms of sadists, then yes it is just to torture them, and they get off on that.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-10-03 16:39:49
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
not in 100% of cases, sometimes it is just about teh booty.

but in the terms of sadists, then yes it is just to torture them, and they get off on that.
Think about it. Person A wants to have sex with person B. Person B says no, or in this case doesn't say yes. Person A forces person B to have sex anyway either against their will or without their consent.

Why did person A still force person B into a sexual encounter without consent or against their wishes?

Dominance.

Otherwise Person A would have respected person B's wishes or not force themselves upon person B and found another outlet for their sexual tension.
By volkom 2014-10-03 16:40:49
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pretty sure Person B wouldn't be on top
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-10-03 16:41:33
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volkom said: »
pretty sure Person B wouldn't be on top
That is true.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-03 16:45:01
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
not in 100% of cases, sometimes it is just about teh booty.

but in the terms of sadists, then yes it is just to torture them, and they get off on that.
Think about it. Person A wants to have sex with person B. Person B says no, or in this case doesn't say yes. Person A forces person B to have sex anyway either against their will or without their consent.

Why did person A still force person B into a sexual encounter without consent or against their wishes?

Dominance.

Otherwise Person A would have respected person B's wishes or not force themselves upon person B and found another outlet for their sexual tension.

It's not as simple as that Chaos, but I'm glad you think it is.

There are more facets of the human psyche than just dominance, but that is a rather common one.

For some it's about fulfilling a fantasy, granted that's a delusion, but it really has nothing to do with dominance. Unless you want to break everything everyone does into a "control" situation, which is what I expect coming.

Speaking of which, I wonder how the prosecutor general is dealing with all those guys who think she's their waifu.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-03 16:46:51
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volkom said: »
pretty sure Person B wouldn't be on top

unless she's willing but unable to legally give consent, like being drunk.
Still rape, but I definitely wouldn't consider it being a dominance scenario, well more so in the opposite direction, (some) *** get slutty when they're drunk.
By volkom 2014-10-03 16:47:03
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sex is just a means to exert that dominance.
not in 100% of cases, sometimes it is just about teh booty.

but in the terms of sadists, then yes it is just to torture them, and they get off on that.
Think about it. Person A wants to have sex with person B. Person B says no, or in this case doesn't say yes. Person A forces person B to have sex anyway either against their will or without their consent.

Why did person A still force person B into a sexual encounter without consent or against their wishes?

Dominance.

Otherwise Person A would have respected person B's wishes or not force themselves upon person B and found another outlet for their sexual tension.

It's not as simple as that Chaos, but I'm glad you think it is.

There are more facets of the human psyche than just dominance, but that is a rather common one.

For some it's about fulfilling a fantasy, granted that's a delusion, but it really has nothing to do with dominance. Unless you want to break everything everyone does into a "control" situation, which is what I expect coming.

Speaking of which, I wonder how the prosecutor general is dealing with all those guys who think she's their waifu.

she secretly has a reverse harem
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-03 16:50:06
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Jetackuu said: »
volkom said: »
pretty sure Person B wouldn't be on top

unless she's willing but unable to legally give consent, like being drunk.
Still rape, but I definitely wouldn't consider it being a dominance scenario, well more so in the opposite direction, (some) *** get slutty when they're drunk.
I'm glad to see you refer women as ***.

Besides that, it looks like you wouldn't mind abusing the law for your own personal gain one bit. Sad to see, but not unexpected from you.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-03 16:58:54
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I'm sorry, I was lazy and didn't use quotes.

Yes, I refer to drunk party *** as ***.



Besides that: the rest of your crap is unsubstantiated, unwarranted and a typical load of ***you spew.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-10-03 17:01:52
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Can a female get really drunk without being a party ***?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-03 17:03:25
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Besides that, it looks like you wouldn't mind abusing the law for your own personal gain one bit. Sad to see, but not unexpected from you.
Maybe next time you will see an opinion when it's staring you right in the face.

Did I say that you are absolutely have already broken laws or take advantage of people? Or did I say that it seems that you would in a heartbeat?

My opinion of you keeps going down, I don't think there will ever be a bottom.
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