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 Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-09 20:54:16
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Being 'white' has nothing to do with skin color and being 'gay' has nothing to do with sexual preference / orientation.
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By fonewear 2014-07-09 20:55:13
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Being 'white' has nothing to do with skin color and being 'gay' has nothing to do with sexual preference / orientation.

So I can be black if I believe it ! Time to bust out some 50 cent and 20 inch rims !

Or you are saying that culture/environment defines more of how we act than the color of our skin. I always thought being white means I'll never dance in public.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-09 20:57:00
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fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Being 'white' has nothing to do with skin color and being 'gay' has nothing to do with sexual preference / orientation.

So I can be black if I believe it ! Time to bust out some 50 cent and 20 inch rims !

Or you are saying that culture/environment defines more of how we act than the color of our skin. I always thought being white means I'll never dance in public.
plenty of white people dance in public... they call it square dancing for a reason.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-09 20:59:57
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Is this like the "gay really means happy" argument?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-09 21:02:38
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fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Being 'white' has nothing to do with skin color and being 'gay' has nothing to do with sexual preference / orientation.

So I can be black if I believe it ! Time to bust out some 50 cent and 20 inch rims !

Or you are saying that culture/environment defines more of how we act than the color of our skin. I always thought being white means I'll never dance in public.
There are plenty of Caucasians who do such things.

And yes it's more cultural / environmental / social thing than anything.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 21:03:56
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Or you are saying that culture/environment defines more of how we act than the color of our skin. I always thought being white means I'll never dance in public.

In America a white man is ALWAYS wrong because the WASP is a privileged class! There is a hierarchy of minority privilege and the way it is maintained is via political correctness.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-09 21:05:51
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fonewear said: »
Or you are saying that culture/environment defines more of how we act than the color of our skin. I always thought being white means I'll never dance in public.

In America a white man is ALWAYS wrong because the WASP is a privileged class! There is a hierarchy of minority privilege and the way it is maintained is via political correctness.
The original fascists.
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By fonewear 2014-07-09 21:06:34
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By Lye 2014-07-09 21:08:09
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By fonewear 2014-07-09 21:08:44
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Ghetto booty is contagious if you contract it bite your lower lip and smile.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 21:10:06
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fonewear said: »

Oh my
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By Lye 2014-07-09 21:15:07
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Which came first: a gay white man or a black woman?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-09 21:26:30
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
I love this article for a number of reasons. One it is the PC police hitting the LGBT community back, which it fully deserves. Two it's fairly accurate.
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Political correctness out of control.
wat

Usually it takes a few pages before you can't keep your points straight. Do you agree with the original argument or not? If you do, why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?

This thread so far makes no sense.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 21:31:18
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Two it's fairly accurate.
Oh! That was in reference to how I do see some gays trying to "act like Beyonce," should have clarified that.



I think it's pretty clear my views on PC policing!

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why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?
Political correctness is another way of saying I deserve special privileges, please adjust your life accordingly to accommodate my hyper-sensitivities.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-09 21:36:54
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I'm sick of people saying white people can't dance.



Hmm, nevermind. Carry on.
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-09 21:39:16
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quite frankly, I think she got offended over nothing at best and at At worst is just trying to milk some money out of it, because she has an incurable diagnosis.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-09 21:39:29
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White people can't dance, they have a full body sporadic aneurism coupled with uncontrollable and un-coordinated body movements due to what looks like a waking seizure.

Notice that white folk barely move in dance videos. Mostly shrug their shoulders and lots of hand movement.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 21:44:41
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If you do, why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?

Well according to your logic the African-American woman writing this article has every single privilege right to feel this way.

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"I don't find this offensive therefore no one else should." Good for you. You don't have to deal with similar situations. Have some cake to go with your privilege.

Her message to gay white men is pretty clear:

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Check your privilege.

Just because gay white men don't find it offensive doesn't mean an African American woman doesn't find it offensive.

Seems to me minority privilege is the key term of this discussion.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2014-07-09 21:46:50
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Black people do start a lot of things that are whitewashed by mainstream American... but that's true of the gay community as well, so I feel this article is a little off-base with that point.

Addressing her argument about how being a gay white male gives you more privilege than being a straight black woman, I'm not so sure. I agree that sexuality isn't self-evident in the same sense as race, but there are states in this country where employment discrimination against homosexuals is still legal... and countries where being gay is a capital crime. The whole article seems catty and petty.

No good can come from this topic. These conversations always degenerate into who suffers/suffered more aka victim-hood contest, or what we're seeing so far in the thread, "OMG PC is the worst, hurr durr I'm a straight WASP Republican and I'm the real victim in today's society!".
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-09 21:51:58
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Republiderps, hurr hurr!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-09 21:53:12
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Oh crap, Bloodrose just had a stroke.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2014-07-09 21:59:06
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?
Political correctness is another way of saying I deserve special privileges, please adjust your life accordingly to accommodate my hyper-sensitivities.

There's nothing wrong with treating others with consideration.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-09 22:02:53
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Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?
Political correctness is another way of saying I deserve special privileges, please adjust your life accordingly to accommodate my hyper-sensitivities.

There's nothing wrong with treating others with consideration.

True, but you completely missed the point.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-09 22:05:58
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
I have no idea what point you're trying to make with my quote. It's apparent that many people won't take offense to gay guys acting black. Doesn't mean she doesn't have a valid point in there somewhere. It can be obnoxious to have the worst, most stereotypical aspects of your culture repeated over and over again or to have your particular identity used as a punchline to a joke. I mean, do the people that lisp their Ss realize that's not how most gay people talk or that the Southern mammy isn't how many black women act? Maybe, but it doesn't make it any less annoying at times.

You can call it privilege all you like but it's basically just treating others with the same modicum of respect you'd extend to any stranger you're not well acquainted with.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-09 22:20:41
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Political correctness has gone above and beyond just attempting to create an atmosphere of mutual respect. It's now just an excuse to severely punish people who ever say anything that could be interpreted as a slight against a minority group.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-09 22:21:43
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As a Canadian, I'm not personally offended by this, but will refuse to laugh because someone might be offended by this.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 22:30:30
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It's apparent that many people won't take offense to gay guys acting black.

Apparent to who? You? Who are those many people? WeHo?

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So once again we're at the point where you argue that since it doesn't offend WeHo it doesn't offend anybody.

Are you acknowledging that a fringe opinion exists?

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Doesn't mean she doesn't have a valid point in there somewhere.
Somewhere? It seems to me your not being consistent with your logic:

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"I don't find this offensive therefore no one else should." Good for you. You don't have to deal with similar situations. Have some cake to go with your privilege.

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You can call it privilege
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It's apparent that many people won't take offense to gay guys acting black.

That sounds like privilege to me.

EDIT: The point is it's one thing to mutually respect one another. Respect doesn't encompass walking on egg-shells. There comes a point where PC policing can be used as a method of oppression and is outright ridiculous. Fringe minority opinions are dangerous e.g. MEChA.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-07-09 22:36:37
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
As a Canadian, I'm not personally offended by this, but will refuse to laugh because someone might be offended by this.

I find that offensive.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-07-09 22:37:06
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm sick of people saying white people can't dance.

Hmm, nevermind. Carry on.

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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2014-07-09 23:33:05
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
why is this example of "political correctness" valid while certain others are not?
Political correctness is another way of saying I deserve special privileges, please adjust your life accordingly to accommodate my hyper-sensitivities.

There's nothing wrong with treating others with consideration.

True, but you completely missed the point.

I didn't miss your point, I don't agree with its sentiment. All "political correctness" really means is "show me respect and consideration, regardless of my race/sex/orientation/etc." It's about being polite and decent to others, not about special privileges but basic respect.

I sometimes say things that might offend another person. When they come to me and say "hey, that genuinely makes me uncomfortable because (whatever)", I don't have a problem apologizing and not repeating the offense. Why is this so difficult?
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