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 Fenrir.Magi
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By Fenrir.Magi 2014-08-14 13:30:04
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Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Shrine has the worst Casket rate of the three found so far.

Get used to it, even Myriad mystery boxes wont save you there if it could! I'm going to guess the cooking one comes from Gustav, just because it has Liminus earring there and since Terminus comes from Ru'Avitau.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2014-08-14 13:33:38
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I mean, issue really wasn't so much casket rate as opposed to in the other two zones I was using subduction on 5-20 mobs at once. Compared to three at max in Shrine
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-08-14 13:57:09
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Funkworkzz said: »
Been here about an hour. Popped 2/2 gold chests. Chose to use the main entrance with page #1 (10 arcana) Another viable option would be to use the home point warp and kill the statues by walking around in the middle loop.
Thanks for your guide on bg wiki and your goldsmithing pic. I got most of the previous torques using your guide.
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By Funkworkz 2014-08-14 14:02:54
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Bismarck.Hsieh said: »
Funkworkzz said: »
Been here about an hour. Popped 2/2 gold chests. Chose to use the main entrance with page #1 (10 arcana) Another viable option would be to use the home point warp and kill the statues by walking around in the middle loop.
Thanks for your guide on bg wiki and your goldsmithing pic. I got most of the previous torques using your guide.

im glad you found it useful! i plan on updating it more thoroughly after we find the cooking torque :D
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By Lakshmi.Ashtopcat 2014-08-14 14:29:23
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spent 6 hours in LoO earlier, 40 merits, nothing to show for it, didn't even see the old grip. only left when you guys found out where weaver's was
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By Funkworkz 2014-08-14 14:41:06
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After looking at a list of zilart zones, I am guessing Culinarian torque is in Sea Serpent Grotto.
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By Carbuncle.Kaelthas 2014-08-14 14:42:57
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Did anyone try Gustav tunnel yet? Was there for about an hour and a half but only got like 3 brown chests
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By Fenrir.Magi 2014-08-14 14:44:29
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@Ashtopcat Yeah, I was there most after the update and most of the day after with nothing to show for it, too. Casket rate is decent and you can easily do the manticore + coeurl GoV to cap casket discovery easily, but I kept trying to pop Lord of Onzozo for fun <_>.
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By Bahamut.Ivebian 2014-08-14 16:29:44
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Thief's Tools provide unlimited amount of the hint type "Number is between x and y" you can use these to get a working range based on the number of guesses the chest supplies and choose the number in the middle of this range. Typically it takes 1-3 tools per box to get a range of 31 numbers or less.

For 5 guess chests we need a number range of 31 or less to find the answer with 100% accuracy using 5 guesses or less(NO HINTS!)
Each guess must be the number in the middle of this range, if number is even either number in the center will work.*
Ex. 1,2,3,4,5,6 Guess = 3 or 4
Ex. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 Guess = 4

For 6 guess chests 63 numbers or less will do, no need to waste thiefs tools on this, 1 hint should reduce the remaining possibilities below 31. If not another hint (or tool if you're unlucky with first two hints) may reduce it enough to continue with above method. I'm aware 6 guess chests are really easy so the point is moot on these and just about any method will work. Ex. 12,32,52,72,92 Guess = 52

6th Guess (63-1)(1/2)=31 Possible Answers
5th Guess (31-1)(1/2)=15 Possible Answers
4th Guess (15-1)(1/2)=7 Possible Answers
3rd Guess (7-1)(1/2)=3 Possible Answers
2nd Guess (3-1)(1/2)=1 Possible Answers
If done correctly there will be 1 value remaining (the answer) before using your final guess.

*If you use Widower's Boxhelper it will always show the number in the middle of a range or set of numbers as your best guess, You can resize the length of your chatlog to show 31 numbers in one line perfectly, so you dont really need to think...Sorry I haven't looked at boxdestroyer yet so I can not reference it.

Macro's for quick targetting/retarggetting new box/same box
/target <stnpc> Select a Box to begin working on

/item "thief's tools" <lastst> Quickly Use tool on Box we selecting with <lastst> using macro #1

/target <lastst> Quickly target box we are working on to enter "Best Guess"(number in center of range).

Using these macros and method you can open many boxes extremely fast and with a 100% rate.
However I fully agree that you should be considerate of others around you if you are cleaving, find isolated camps, removing all spoils from brown boxes is also considerate, there's only so many of these in the dats.
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By Shiva.Grimbattsumaru 2014-08-14 18:08:33
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3 hours in Shrine but got the weaver torque. But lack of attention lost a lot of brown chests lol. Probably would have been quicker...
Thanks for posting zone guys.....
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By Carbuncle.Kaelthas 2014-08-14 18:10:35
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Any clues on the whereabouts of the infamous Culinarian's Torque?
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By Shiva.Grimbattsumaru 2014-08-14 18:17:14
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Talks of it being in SSG but haven't seen it confirmed..
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By Odin.Acacia 2014-08-14 18:57:04
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Bahamut.Ivebian said: »
*If you use Widower's Boxhelper it will always show the number in the middle of a range or set of numbers as your best guess, You can resize the length of your chatlog to show 31 numbers in one line perfectly, so you dont really need to think...Sorry I haven't looked at boxdestroyer yet so I can not reference it.
For boxdestroyer I actually have it display your "worst case" percentage if always guessing the middle number. So for instance if you have 2 guesses left and 4 possible combinations it will show (50%) next to the best guess number, or if you have 3 guesses left and 7 or less numbers it will show (100%)

It also tracks all boxes separately so you can switch back and forth between two boxes and it always shows you the correct info!
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By Ragnarok.Ivebien 2014-08-14 20:21:03
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Odin.Acacia said: »
For boxdestroyer I actually have it display your "worst case" percentage if always guessing the middle number. So for instance if you have 2 guesses left and 4 possible combinations it will show (50%) next to the best guess number, or if you have 3 guesses left and 7 or less numbers it will show (100%)

It also tracks all boxes separately so you can switch back and forth between two boxes and it always shows you the correct info!
Nice, This makes it even easier, alleviating the need for targeting macros.
Nice work.
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By Funkworkz 2014-08-14 20:22:03
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god.damnit.i.hate.this.zone

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By Leviathan.Stamos 2014-08-14 20:34:55
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haha
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By Shiva.Grimbattsumaru 2014-08-14 20:38:01
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Funk I got 2 earrings but already had one.... But I did statues there and got weaver torque in 3 hours
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By Funkworkz 2014-08-14 20:39:13
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i am already on this side of the wall, i dont want to rezone and lose level 5 casket prowess :(
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By Asura.Triffle 2014-08-14 21:28:32
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Checking SSG in hopes of Culinarian's Torque and so far zip after 4 hours.
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By Ragnarok.Saintsfan 2014-08-14 21:44:14
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If SSG or Gustav have anything I'll be very surprised. Over 20 hours in each zone between a buddy and myself.

Gold torque took me almost 12 hours.

I went into Shrine for weavers and got really lucky with level 4 caskets in less than an hour but only 14 brown chests before I had to leave to go out for dinner. 7 chests/hr seems pretty shitty and I was mowing down weapons at a rapid rate keeping 2 large rooms and their adjoining tunnels clear of monbs.

For Culinarian my money is on Dangruf Wadi!
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-08-14 22:01:00
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I was in Den for 12h killing stuff total then i had to leave for LS events, im here for 30 minutes and get torque from a 6 guess chest >.>



Also, anyone find cooking yet? And you can't get weavers unless you have the Kupo power for sky box right?
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By Funkworkz 2014-08-14 22:15:57
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Asura.Natenn said: »
Also, anyone find cooking yet? And you can't get weavers unless you have the Kupo power for sky box right?

Not found yet.

Super kupower just do not affect sky. This means its harder than others.
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By oldfriend734 2014-08-14 23:01:04
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Ragnarok.Saintsfan said: »
Can anybody tell if the JP have discovered anything yet?

I always go to this site for JP torques listings.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dffxiwiki%2Bjp%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DymU%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnts&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://ffxi.wikiwiki.jp/%3FTreasure%2520Casket%252FGoV&usg=ALkJrhid0ufqPlHaQx6t9-wM2CbuuimDVg

Second day farming in TC, casket rate is low. No Cooking Torque yet, about to give up and move on.
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By Odin.Ladyrikku 2014-08-14 23:39:26
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Ragnarok.Saintsfan said: »
If SSG or Gustav have anything I'll be very surprised. Over 20 hours in each zone between a buddy and myself.

Gold torque took me almost 12 hours.

I went into Shrine for weavers and got really lucky with level 4 caskets in less than an hour but only 14 brown chests before I had to leave to go out for dinner. 7 chests/hr seems pretty shitty and I was mowing down weapons at a rapid rate keeping 2 large rooms and their adjoining tunnels clear of monbs.

For Culinarian my money is on Dangruf Wadi!

I tried Wadi, got 2 Field Rope after a few hours of farming..... might call it busted.
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By lulabelle 2014-08-14 23:47:23
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been in LoO for 2 hours now have got 2 grips and nothing more then that !
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By lulabelle 2014-08-14 23:50:29
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also spent 5 hours or so in TC and nothing there either.
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By oldfriend734 2014-08-15 00:22:24
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Moving to Inner Horutoto, since Fishing Torque is in Outer. Gonna try my luck there.
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By Shiva.Grimbattsumaru 2014-08-15 00:26:41
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Wish the quest hint NPC wold give us a clue...
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By Ragnarok.Rieekil 2014-08-15 01:44:40
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finally got carver's torque .. took me about 15hr just finished 12hr shift at the hospital decided to give it a try before i sleep since i still in the zone nd mange to get it from 2nd casket D: !!!
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-08-15 02:20:34
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Unrelated but did anyone else notice they removed cooldown between geode/avatarites dropping? i got like 3 in under 5m.
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