Boost In Damage To Useless Weaponskills.
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Boost in damage to useless weaponskills.
as you seem incapable of reading, i have drawn an easy to view diagram where size represents damage
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those 20k SCs doe
Valefor.Prothescar said: » sorry but 4k really isn't that much, surprised you're not using CDC which should be performing far better in addition to being able to make Light for aura downing. still won't match a SAM's Shoha/Fudo though, and not having any outside buffs for a delve boss is unrealistic. Gap will shorten after the update, SAM will still likely be better though. (ftr, my group doesn't even bring a COR but instead GEO+BRD, and my avg Shoha/Fudo on tree hovers around 5k, spikes around 7-8k. SB simply can't come close, it has a rather high Slashing weakness but no aversion to magic, especially not darkness.) The Shohas Ive seen are hitting 4k at best, but no COR, no Geo and CDC does far worse without those (nvm the utility of SB) Stop playing with very bad people, I'm even surprised people doing 4k shoha AT BEST can make it to tree.
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » sorry but 4k really isn't that much, surprised you're not using CDC which should be performing far better in addition to being able to make Light for aura downing. still won't match a SAM's Shoha/Fudo though, and not having any outside buffs for a delve boss is unrealistic. Gap will shorten after the update, SAM will still likely be better though. (ftr, my group doesn't even bring a COR but instead GEO+BRD, and my avg Shoha/Fudo on tree hovers around 5k, spikes around 7-8k. SB simply can't come close, it has a rather high Slashing weakness but no aversion to magic, especially not darkness.) The Shohas Ive seen are hitting 4k at best, but no COR, no Geo and CDC does far worse without those (nvm the utility of SB) What kind of CDC set are you using that it can't break 4k on a mob with at least 25% slashing weakness? Besides that, I have to agree with Ccl, you're playing with super bads. If I averaged less than 4k Shohas on Wopket I'd prolly delete my character in shame. Hell I'd be surprised if I average that low on any of the NMs in that zone Asura.Ccl said: » Stop playing with very bad people, I'm even surprised people doing 4k shoha AT BEST can make it to tree. Let's also be clear,
I've been corrected, we use 1 mad 1 min Just looked through 5-6 parses. The top average on shoha was 2800. There were spikes to 5-6k but not frequent.
god damn it I was going to post all the Shohas I did on one of our Wopket runs from this log but I got bored around the 300000000th Shoha. If you want the log I'll send you the text file, PM me or something
Some of the big ones (not all SP2'd, I save that for Aura phases) One of many, doesn't include the entire fight or all of the Shohas (including more high ones) but you get the idea. Timestamps included to give you an idea of the frequency of the high hits and that they're not just flukes/windbuffet procs/similar cop-out I even use my shoha acc set and sole sushi on Wopket, once again to counter Flash in the event it can't be erased promptly. i.e., room to improve damage further with more buffs. Hrmm, that's pretty significant. Having a hard time thinking a geo and a minuet making up for that difference, but maybe it is (geo 2hr?)
Using propper food/erase/acc set prolly make up for that too. I use 4 different lvl of accuracy set for tp and ws in Yorcia.
YEAH WELL DANCER IS KOOL TOO
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: » Hrmm, that's pretty significant. Having a hard time thinking a geo and a minuet making up for that difference, but maybe it is (geo 2hr?) Bolster / Blaze of Glory DEF down is 25% def down which is massive. Our Koga sams generally average higher than that with just bard buffs iirc (its been a long time). Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » My set is better than this and I could only get 2300 max on cherti, what witchcraft did you use to get that high. Sorry, gear collector didnt pull all my gear out and some gear didnt get swapped properly. Here is the set i was using when I we last did Cherti. This gives me 3360 damage with no weather. ItemSet 324796 I can only assume I was either Firesday or I was getting Fire Weather, because looking back in the chatlogs, this was the damage i was getting Snprphnx uses Wildfire. Cherti takes 3844 points of damage. This set now gives me 4185, no weather Woah. Still need to upgrade rings though, but that's in the realm of 5k with weather/day.
Quite sexy indeed. (though it's only 2500 on anything not cherti?? or you mean on everything lol... and 10k on Cherti?) That was on fodder mobs
My set, "not optimized yet" no weather, no buffs.
 Firesday procs, no weather, no obi  Couple tweaks, still no weather, no buffs. Worth noting, MAB may not always be best in slot anymore... Testing required etc. Demon ring slot 2 = 4583 Stormsoul ring slot 2 = 4576 So 3 MAB still better than 7 AGI, but not by much. The gap was narrowed by a good amount. Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » My set is better than this and I could only get 2300 max on cherti, what witchcraft did you use to get that high. Sorry, gear collector didnt pull all my gear out and some gear didnt get swapped properly. Here is the set i was using when I we last did Cherti. This gives me 3360 damage with no weather. ItemSet 324796 I can only assume I was either Firesday or I was getting Fire Weather, because looking back in the chatlogs, this was the damage i was getting Snprphnx uses Wildfire. Cherti takes 3844 points of damage. This set now gives me 4185, no weather Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » Firesday procs, no weather, no obi Good god, Delve just got a lot more entertaining. Asura.Ccl said: » Stop playing with very bad people, I'm even surprised people doing 4k shoha AT BEST can make it to tree. We all know about Kese's alt MNK vs you in Yorcia ;) Asura.Hashtag said: » Asura.Ccl said: » Stop playing with very bad people, I'm even surprised people doing 4k shoha AT BEST can make it to tree. We all know about Kese's alt MNK vs you in Yorcia ;) wut ? No one touched my koga sam in yorcia pre buff now it might have gotten dumber :x Lakshmi.Byrth said: » YEAH WELL DANCER IS KOOL TOO Zillion said: » Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » Bismarck.Snprphnx said: » Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » My set is better than this and I could only get 2300 max on cherti, what witchcraft did you use to get that high. Sorry, gear collector didnt pull all my gear out and some gear didnt get swapped properly. Here is the set i was using when I we last did Cherti. This gives me 3360 damage with no weather. ItemSet 324796 I can only assume I was either Firesday or I was getting Fire Weather, because looking back in the chatlogs, this was the damage i was getting Snprphnx uses Wildfire. Cherti takes 3844 points of damage. This set now gives me 4185, no weather Been lazy, and hadn't made it yet. I put it in the other thread, but this was yummy enough to post twice;
HOLY ***Aeolian is AWESOME!!!!!! Just did 3k damage with it... for a combined 20,000 ish in salvage... I LOVES it.  Solo no buffs thf/dnc etc Without my Vanir Knife btw
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » I put it in the other thread, but this was yummy enough to post twice; HOLY ***Aeolian is AWESOME!!!!!! Just did 3k damage with it... for a combined 20,000 ish in salvage... I LOVES it. Solo no buffs thf/dnc etc Without my Vanir Knife btw Dam this actually seems kinda interesting hmm Tp bonus centovente in the offhand+mab gear just to cleave an entire rampart of gears in one go is looking pretty promising now
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » I put it in the other thread, but this was yummy enough to post twice; HOLY ***Aeolian is AWESOME!!!!!! Just did 3k damage with it... for a combined 20,000 ish in salvage... I LOVES it. Solo no buffs thf/dnc etc Without my Vanir Knife btw I can't see them leaving that alone lol my goodness that's fing sick.... |
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