Boost In Damage To Useless Weaponskills.

I see sanguine blade is on the list, I wasn't aware this 3k+ WS was weak as such.

A full cure ws being made more potent that deals 3~4k damage being increased further seems like a fun idea, it's also going to interesting to see if the resist rate nms have to the magic ws's is lowered as a result of higher potency / magic acc.

This may become the new go to WS for BLU on all content.

I'm sorry Cyclone will benefit here!

Yorcia and your SCH sucks send in the thief for Cyclone wind dmg ws! (lol I know but still)

Am I the only cynic, who asks why? Seems like all this update does, is make us use ws B, instead of ws A. Did we need change because of change?

Don't get me wrong, our current dev team is doing amazing stuff for the game atm (except job points), which is exactly why I'd rather see them work on actual issues in the game.

Didn't see anyone answer you, but I'm fairly confident that those notes are what we, the community, have been calling the "fTP mod" that for many weaponskills changed depending on the scale of TP%.
(Some have large jumps like 1.0 @100%{1000} and 1.64 @200%{2000}; others, like the EmpyWSs have a 3.0 fTP across the %s.)

Also: anyone else a little disappointed that there was no Spirits Within change?
It'd be nice to get decent damage with it... Especially cause it has actual potential to be legit useful...
Cause let's face facts: shitty stat mods aren't the reason we use only the quest, merit, and REM WSs...
It's because those WSs are two steps into Light and Dark skillchains... And in the case of Relic and Empy WSs, a third step into "double Light/Darkness".
So unless these low level WSs now are aligned to half a Light or Darkness SC... Or have some unique utility (eg Spirits Within)... They aren't gonna be replacing anyone's macros anytime soon. IMO, anyways.

Well, I like the idea of merited WS having potential contenders when Emperyean WS were not a viable alternative (i.e Wildfire compared to Last Stand is obviously stupid, and Fudo only works well under certain conditions compared to Shoha), considering they are not giving us an upgrade to the amount of merit WS we can have. I don't think the list had to be so extensive as to give us upgrades to Wasp Sting and Fast Blade, but I doubt that took up much of their time anyways.

Well, the issue SE is trying to address here is making more WS viable so that way, to quote SE: "the weapon skills obtainable at lower levels should become as enticing for players to use as their high-level counterparts, thus allowing for a more diverse arsenal depending on the situation."

Naturally, there'll always be a WS that you usually use the most but they want to make it so we're not just using that one WS ALL the time for everything, so there are some situations where you'd pick others depending on your opponent and physical/magical defences, additional effects, etc.

People who are using many jobs but are locked on Say Tachi: Shoha will now notice Fudo is arguably alot stronger and probably a better choice than Shoha (Even when attack capped if my math is right but needs proper testing). Its more for the fact We can't max every merit ws and this provides options that allow us to not merit some.

Sneak attack working from the front like back at 75 cap

BULLY ALL 'DA THANGZ

I don't think it's possible to know/math till we know how they changed http://ftp.

The update is June 16th. Saw someone ask earlier and didn't see an answer.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news23289.shtml

It's the same as Tourb and a few others. It's not MA vs ME but proc rate. The additional effect has a floored proc rate (Kaiser sword vs IT++ as an example) and thus won't even get to the MA/ME check for duration.

*note, I think it was the Kaiser sword that had additional effect: Curse which would rarely proc.

My set is better than this and I could only get 2300 max on cherti, what witchcraft did you use to get that high.

The floored proc rate is due to a m.acc issue with the WS and spells. It became more apparent once GK had tons of m.acc on them. It is still an issue that needs to be addressed.

Curious what swaps are substantially "better", looks pretty solid to me. I use about the same and get about the same results as him. Maybe its a Bismarck thing.

Something is/was broken with regards to added effects, look at the land rate of violent flourish.

Also, I could care less whether it's a magic accuracy or proc rate issue, Ageha used to work, and I want it to work again.

Didn't say substantially better, just, better. Umbani Cap for one, the new sparks ring with MAB for 2, Augmented Demon ring for 3, Vanir knife 4.

Unless you were getting storm, and then the obi would've been better than aquiline anyway.

I knew I shoulda made a thread topic about this last night when they posted it. This op should be ashamed lol.

This is the reason why we can't have nice things. nobody posts on AH :(


so excite for these changes :Q

Certain merit WS has additional effect, that makes them still worth using depending on situation. As for elemental WS, certain mob resists certain element so different elemental WS is still worth using depending on mobs.

Pipe down! If they know this, they will nerf it. Keep this within the small circle of BLUs that know how to play the game (you can just PM them all, as there are only 3-4 on our server).

Totally forgot about Umbani having magic damage, herpderp.

I normally have storm on but shouldn't account for that large of a difference. Bismarck wizardry confirmed.

You're right. Not my day, wasn't including staff bonus.

Frostbite doing 9999999999999999 first day~

Like that one update when Cure 1 would deal 99,999 damage to undead? That was great.

Just got dancing edge, so there goes my gust slash spam... oh and DE is unchanged. D'oh!

Actually it got a 10% increase to its Dex mod.

Macc and proc are two unrelated functions. Macc is only checked after a proc happens. Right now there are many abilities that have broken proc rates. Its easy to test, just use on a level 40~60 monster. You will have such an overwhelming amount of base MACC that it being resisted (two or more failed checks) would be nearly impossible statistically. Use the ability and wait a few minutes to see for a wear off message. If after ten attempts you don't see the message, then the proc rate is bugged or is fixed at an obscenely low value.

Proc rates that aren't fixed are determined by plevel vs mlevel. Macc/Mevd has nothing to do with it.

Sorry, gear collector didnt pull all my gear out and some gear didnt get swapped properly. Here is the set i was using when I we last did Cherti. This gives me 3360 damage with no weather.
ItemSet 324796
I can only assume I was either Firesday or I was getting Fire Weather, because looking back in the chatlogs, this was the damage i was getting
Snprphnx uses Wildfire.
Cherti takes 3844 points of damage.