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Random Politics & Religion #00
By Bloodrose 2015-04-30 10:21:36
*whips Ravael* BACK INTO THE CRACKER MINES WITH YOU!
Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-30 10:21:49
National hug a minority day.
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Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-30 10:22:25
they don't need help, they need equal opportunity, & the state to quit throwing every male in prison on petty drug offenses from over-policing.
By Bloodrose 2015-04-30 10:22:40
National hug a minority day. And Chaos has begun!
*hits the deck*
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-04-30 10:22:51
is vandalism a greater crime than 200 years of systematic oppression?
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Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:23:45
is vandalism a greater crime than 200 years of systematic oppression?

It's really not. But if you want to be sure, I can go find Lordgrim...
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Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:24:28
they don't need help, they need equal opportunity, & the state to quit throwing every male in prison on petty drug offenses from over-policing.
Both things of which I'm a big advocate.
Stop fighting me on things we agree about with semantics!
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-30 10:25:37
I don't understand* those who take that willingness to fight and manipulate it into situations that help literally no one and only hurt others.
that's when everyone's willingness to fight turns into a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE mob with no plan or foresight. groups of people can be swayed pretty easily, even more-so if there's a legitimate reason to be moved to action. then it's just lemmings diving off the cliff.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-04-30 10:25:46
they don't need help, they need equal opportunity, & the state to quit throwing every male in prison on petty drug offenses from over-policing.
They're already in a welfare-heavy city in a welfare-heavy state, so clearly that's not solving anything. The over-policing of petty drug offenses might be worth looking into, though.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-04-30 10:25:55
Mosin really thinks that because of something that happened 200 years ago, it justifies violence today in an unrelated issue.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 10:26:57
is vandalism a greater crime than 200 years of systematic oppression?

It's really not. But if you want to be sure, I can go find Lordgrim... He already provided it to us before anyone really asked.
Not a conspiracy when it's a fact. Your saying that homeless man did not die saying it's a Conspiracy and that infowars.com does not indeed post facts mainstream does not hardly ever give anytime. It's ok I know your a trendy and I am fine if you think everything is ok. I'm just giving you fair warning.
By fonewear 2015-04-30 10:27:09
National hug a minority day.
So if I hug Obama how fast will the secret service kill me ?
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:27:10
Mosin really thinks that because of something that happened 200 years ago, it justifies violence today in an unrelated issue.
- Started 200+ years ago.
- It's not necessarily an unrelated issue.
You have to allow for the possibility that the reasons for the rioting are valid, even if the action of rioting itself is wrong.
By fonewear 2015-04-30 10:27:48
Mosin really thinks that because of something that happened 200 years ago, it justifies violence today in an unrelated issue.
You kidding me my friend owes me 5 bucks from like 10 years ago I'm still bitching about it !
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:27:56
National hug a minority day.
So if I hug Obama how fast will the secret service kill me ?
If I were to say "no fast enough", would you hate me/would I get in trouble?
I'm not saying that, I'm just asking.
Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-30 10:28:31
glad I could help, you've fulfilled that role for me more times than I can count.
Stop fighting me on things we agree about with semantics!
the semantics can be important though. 'help' seems condescending.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:28:47
Mosin really thinks that because of something that happened 200 years ago, it justifies violence today in an unrelated issue.
You kidding me my friend owes me 5 bucks from like 10 years ago I'm still bitching about it !
I mean, the English are one of our biggest allies and there are still Americans that hate the English over things that happened 200+ years ago...
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Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-04-30 10:30:13
who the hell is Bernie Sanders A Vermont independent. If memory serves me correctly, he was the only independent in the Senate. Well, democrat in independent's clothing. No King he is a socialist. Open, avowed, declared.
But he will run as a Democrat.
Seraph.Ramyrez
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 10:30:43
the semantics can be important though. 'help' seems condescending.
Oy vey.
Was not the intent.
They're already in a welfare-heavy city in a welfare-heavy state, so clearly that's not solving anything.
I'm not talking handouts.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 10:31:01
You have to allow for the possibility that the reasons for the rioting are valid You know perfectly well why these thugs are rioting.
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Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-30 10:31:03
Mosin really thinks that because of something that happened 200 years ago, it justifies violence today in an unrelated issue.
do you really think the suppression of the poorest people in this country isn't an item on the state's agenda?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-04-30 10:31:05
Wait, are we seriously using the "my people were once oppressed!" schtick as a means of debasing the reality that blacks are oppressed/discriminated upon?
Ah yes, the 'my Irish ancestors were treated WORSE than blacks' card. How long ago was that sir? Oh, 150 years ago. BUT IT FEELS LIKE YESTERDAY.
The reality is today if you're Irish you're safely under the amorphous 'white' umbrella.
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Siren.Mosin
By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-30 10:31:48
Oy vey.
Was not the intent.
just trying to help!
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-04-30 10:32:51
is vandalism a greater crime than 200 years of systematic oppression death while in police custody?
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By fonewear 2015-04-30 10:33:39
Dying in custody/getting shot by police "at this point what difference does it make" !
My ancestors were once oppressed I"m going to loot the local CVS get some Claritn D that ***is expensive !
By Bloodrose 2015-04-30 10:35:12
As much as there are things I would like to stand up against, I can't seem to find the motivation to rob, loot, steal, plunder, pillage, or otherwise destroy innocent peoples lives and livelihood to "protest" against an act of violence.
No one does this kind of ***when kids are raped, beaten, starved to death or commit suicide. So why do people argue that this is some kind of valid response, just because of race?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 10:35:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Wait, are we seriously using the "my people were once oppressed!" schtick as a means of debasing the reality that blacks are oppressed/discriminated upon?
Ah yes, the 'my Irish ancestors were treated WORSE than blacks' card. How long ago was that sir? Oh, 150 years ago. BUT IT FEELS LIKE YESTERDAY.
The reality is today if you're Irish you're safely under the amorphous 'white' umbrella. No, the whole "my people were once oppressed" excuse is just a cop-out.
Everyone's ancestors were oppressed one way or another. Saying that your's were as a reason to cause/drive hatred in a community is a very poor excuse, because, guess what, so was everyone else's, including those who you are fighting against.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 10:35:41
is vandalism a greater crime than 200 years of systematic oppression death while in police custody? Even while it was self-inflicted?
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-04-30 10:36:05
The plight of black people today has virtually nothing to do with the notion that 200+ years ago blacks were slaves.
By fonewear 2015-04-30 10:36:28
Black lives matter therefore umm... we haven't thought this plan through very well !
Oh yea No Justice No Peace !
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