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 Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-06-11 15:36:39
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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As an employee, to the market, you always get paid what you are worth. The sooner people can understand this basic truth, the better off we will all be.
You don't though, people are constantly paid under what they are worth, your pure idea of a proper capitalist market in the job/employment sector is a pure myth.

The minimum wage should be a living wage, it isn't, that's the bottom line. I'm ok with increasing it only partially federally, but then local areas need to do their part as well for their areas.

As for the automation crap being spewed around: good, it will create more jobs that pay decently.
You get paid what you are worth. If you are worth more, then by definition someone is willing to pay you that amount. Go there.

And ppl don't generally have an income problem, they have a budgeting problem.
People aren not always paid what they are worth. The only thing you got right is that people are paid what people are willing to pay them... whether that's more or less than what they are actually worth to that company is somethign you have no clue about lol...

This is a prime example of a denial mechanism.

If you accept 50k a year for a job you usually get 60k a year for, you have just accepted the new value of the job. You don't get to say that you're being underpaid, you accepted the job. You can lament that you aren't getting anymore money, but you're really just bitching about a decision you freely made. You made the decision and don't wan't to own the responsibility of it, so you lash out and try and blame it on the other guy because he isn't readily willing to pay you what you want.

EX: If I grab some neighborhood kids and have them do some yard work at 15/hr and they accept it, they and I have established that the job is worth 15/hr. It doesn't matter if one of them worked for a landscaping company through which to do the same work would cost me 25 dollars an hour, the I have set my expectation and advertised the job. The market has found me a solution.

Would that kid like to be paid professionally 25/hr for the same work, sure. But this is what's available, if he doesn't think the job is worth that, then he can say "no thanks".

I am not a jerk because I don't want to pay a higher rate.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-11 15:58:52
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Personal responsibility is too hard. Can't someone else do it?
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 16:54:09
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Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
isolation can mean a lot of things. our constitution allows for free trade between other countries. it also says we are not to involve ourselves in other countries affairs. libertarians are all about a constitutional government. not the type of government we have now that uses the constitution as toilet paper on a daily basis. if you actually read the constitution you will find that a large majority of our so called leaders commit treason on a daily basis.

I've read the constitution, and while some of our "leaders" are treasonous ***, it's not due to protecting our interests abroad.
it isn't our interests they are protecting. they are protecting their corporate masters interests at the cost of the tax paying American.

Matter of a lengthy discussion that I don't have time nor care for, but if you want to continue living under conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-11 17:12:29
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Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
isolation can mean a lot of things. our constitution allows for free trade between other countries. it also says we are not to involve ourselves in other countries affairs. libertarians are all about a constitutional government. not the type of government we have now that uses the constitution as toilet paper on a daily basis. if you actually read the constitution you will find that a large majority of our so called leaders commit treason on a daily basis.

I've read the constitution, and while some of our "leaders" are treasonous ***, it's not due to protecting our interests abroad.
it isn't our interests they are protecting. they are protecting their corporate masters interests at the cost of the tax paying American.

Matter of a lengthy discussion that I don't have time nor care for, but if you want to continue living under conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.
Translation: wormfeeder has won this round.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 17:15:42
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
isolation can mean a lot of things. our constitution allows for free trade between other countries. it also says we are not to involve ourselves in other countries affairs. libertarians are all about a constitutional government. not the type of government we have now that uses the constitution as toilet paper on a daily basis. if you actually read the constitution you will find that a large majority of our so called leaders commit treason on a daily basis.

I've read the constitution, and while some of our "leaders" are treasonous ***, it's not due to protecting our interests abroad.
it isn't our interests they are protecting. they are protecting their corporate masters interests at the cost of the tax paying American.

Matter of a lengthy discussion that I don't have time nor care for, but if you want to continue living under conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.
Translation: wormfeeder has won this round.
Not in the least, but delusions of that level take a lot of time and energy to properly retort to, two things I'm a bit short on right now.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-11 17:44:32
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
isolation can mean a lot of things. our constitution allows for free trade between other countries. it also says we are not to involve ourselves in other countries affairs. libertarians are all about a constitutional government. not the type of government we have now that uses the constitution as toilet paper on a daily basis. if you actually read the constitution you will find that a large majority of our so called leaders commit treason on a daily basis.

I've read the constitution, and while some of our "leaders" are treasonous ***, it's not due to protecting our interests abroad.
it isn't our interests they are protecting. they are protecting their corporate masters interests at the cost of the tax paying American.

Matter of a lengthy discussion that I don't have time nor care for, but if you want to continue living under conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.
Translation: wormfeeder has won this round.
Not in the least, but delusions of that level take a lot of time and energy to properly retort to, two things I'm a bit short on right now.
I think you waste more time and energy arguing for the sake of arguing than expressing your ideas, but perhaps that's just me.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 18:13:07
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It's not just you thinking that, but it's not accurate either.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-11 18:14:15
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It's not just you thinking that, but it's not accurate either.
You wasted time and energy countering Chaos alone!

Which you could have spent being a productive member of society too!

Pay your taxes yo!
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 18:15:20
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Jetackuu said: »
It's not just you thinking that, but it's not accurate either.
You wasted time and energy countering Chaos alone!

Which you could have spent being a productive member of society too!

Pay your taxes yo!
I do pay my taxes thank you. Even shared the refund with the baby momma, which I didn't have to do, as she sure as hell hasn't paid any of my expenses over the past couple of years.

edit: the time and energy battling Chaos and his brand of trolling is easy. Much easier and less time consuming than discrediting a loon.

I decided to wait for this thing I'm doing online as well instead of continuing to do what I was doing otherwise which is offline.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-11 18:24:57
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
It's not just you thinking that, but it's not accurate either.
You wasted time and energy countering Chaos alone!

Which you could have spent being a productive member of society too!

Pay your taxes yo!
I do pay my taxes thank you. Even shared the refund with the baby momma, which I didn't have to do, as she sure as hell hasn't paid any of my expenses over the past couple of years.

edit: the time and energy battling Chaos and his brand of trolling is easy. Much easier and less time consuming than discrediting a loon.

I decided to wait for this thing I'm doing online as well instead of continuing to do what I was doing otherwise which is offline.
That's because it's not trolling. It's called critical thinking for those who wish to do so.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 18:25:36
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
That's because it's not trolling. It's called critical thinking for those who wish to do so.
whatever helps you sleep at night, comrade.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-11 18:42:16
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I sleep too much lately, actually.
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By Altimaomega 2014-06-11 23:21:55
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
Jetackuu said: »
wormfeeder said: »
isolation can mean a lot of things. our constitution allows for free trade between other countries. it also says we are not to involve ourselves in other countries affairs. libertarians are all about a constitutional government. not the type of government we have now that uses the constitution as toilet paper on a daily basis. if you actually read the constitution you will find that a large majority of our so called leaders commit treason on a daily basis.

I've read the constitution, and while some of our "leaders" are treasonous ***, it's not due to protecting our interests abroad.
it isn't our interests they are protecting. they are protecting their corporate masters interests at the cost of the tax paying American.

Matter of a lengthy discussion that I don't have time nor care for, but if you want to continue living under conspiracy theories, that's your prerogative.
Translation: wormfeeder has won this round.
Not in the least, but delusions of that level take a lot of time and energy to properly retort to, two things I'm a bit short on right now.
I think you waste more time and energy arguing for the sake of arguing than expressing your ideas, but perhaps that's just me.

Nope, I noticed it as well.. espescially today.. In like 5-6 threads all he has done is argue about nothing.

Seinfeld would be jealous..
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-11 23:27:34
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Discussing things that are way beyond your level of comprehension =/= nothing.
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By Altimaomega 2014-06-12 00:14:30
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Discussing things that are way beyond your level of comprehension =/= nothing.

You don't discuss anything, you pick and choose what words to try and dissect then claim to be smart...

Yet again #3 from the jet playbook.. Do you have more than 3 plays? Do you happen to coach for the Detroit Lions by chance?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 10:37:12
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Jetackuu said: »
Discussing things that are way beyond your level of comprehension =/= nothing.
By that logic you must be God.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:45:39
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I asked God what he thought of FFXIAH. He said too many ads for Arab singles.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 10:54:44
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I asked God what he thought of FFXIAH. He said too many ads for Arab singles.
Figures.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:55:42
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Personal responsibility is too hard. Can't someone else do it?

Simpsons reference alert !


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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 11:49:48
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fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Personal responsibility is too hard. Can't someone else do it?

Simpsons reference alert !


I was thinking of that too, lmao!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 15:03:20
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Someone needs to run with that slogan.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 15:06:17
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Someone needs to run with that slogan.

Ross Perot still around ?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 15:07:47
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fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Someone needs to run with that slogan.

Ross Perot still around ?
Can't someone else do it?
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 15:08:47
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
fonewear said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Someone needs to run with that slogan.

Ross Perot still around ?
Can't someone else do it?

Monica Lewinsky ?
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2014-06-12 15:41:56
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The tea party never went away to begin with.

Hopefully this sends a big enough message to the RINOs and liberals in the republican party. Amnesty = job loss!

The problem with this, which Cantor and Boehner realize, but you and the Tea Party do not, is that while being totally against immigration reform may win you a seat in the House, it makes you as a party unelectable in the national presidential election. The Republican party cannot continue to lose the Hispanic vote 70:30 and expect to win the presidency.

I'm not talking about the right and wrong of immigration reform, but just the political score keeping aspect. Personally I'm glad that Cantor lost, because he was a large part of why the government hasn't worked for the last six years, but as a liberal I want to see a clear and simple path to citizenship pass.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-06-13 07:48:39
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The tea party never went away to begin with.

Hopefully this sends a big enough message to the RINOs and liberals in the republican party. Amnesty = job loss!

The problem with this, which Cantor and Boehner realize, but you and the Tea Party do not, is that while being totally against immigration reform may win you a seat in the House, it makes you as a party unelectable in the national presidential election. The Republican party cannot continue to lose the Hispanic vote 70:30 and expect to win the presidency.

I'm not talking about the right and wrong of immigration reform, but just the political score keeping aspect. Personally I'm glad that Cantor lost, because he was a large part of why the government hasn't worked for the last six years, but as a liberal I want to see a clear and simple path to citizenship pass.

You make the mistake of thinking that Hispanics want amnesty.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-13 12:28:04
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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Discussing things that are way beyond your level of comprehension =/= nothing.
By that logic you must be God.
sssh

Like I told that Bush fellow, downplay our relationship. afk, Cheney is calling.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-13 13:32:13
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WASHINGTON (AP) — California Republican Kevin McCarthy secured a clear shot to becoming House majority leader on Thursday as his sole rival dropped his bid in a leadership fight that exposed deep fissures within the GOP.

Barring an unforeseen challenge, McCarthy is on a glide path to the No. 2 job in the House behind Speaker John Boehner, with elections slated for June 19. Earlier in the day, backers of the four-term congressman had spoken confidently about his prospects.

Texas Rep. Pete Sessions, in a statement late Thursday, said he had decided to abandon the race after it "became obvious to me that the measures necessary to run a successful campaign would have created unnecessary and painful division within our party."
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-06-13 13:47:07
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Isn't he pro-amnesty? I'm sure the tea party nuts will love him.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-13 13:56:18
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Isn't he pro-amnesty? I'm sure the tea party nuts will love him.

Seems so. But then again...

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McCarthy has in the past expressed support for giving undocumented immigrants a path to legal status, although not full-blown citizenship.

McCarthy stressed earlier this year that his support for an opportunity to allow some undocumented immigrants to legalize their status was not tantamount to being in favor of amnesty, or rewarding people who break the law.
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