Cop Tasers Woman Multiply Times.....

And you're one of those people that turns cops into *** to begin with from the sound of it.


I was giving examples of why they could of been there, not necessarily why there were. They even told you why they were there when you asked. I even said they were probably just being *** because they are ***.

And then you're obviously taking my words to the extreme. I simply said earlier that simple requests move ***along faster, obnoxious and intrusive requests should be fought within reason (as in not yelling at someone or calling them names, not as in just giving up because they are more argumentative than you).

I did not say it was within their right, I did not say they weren't baiting with simple requests, I just simply noted that it is easier the bulk of the time.

I cannot make anyone do anything unless they give me that power. Someone who gives me power over them to be able to control their feelings probably shouldn't be an officer of the law in the first place.

You're obviously the kind of person who becomes a cop and does the exact acts portrayed above. Shame on you! *Shakes finger back and forth*

I took your words as you wrote them, this reeks of 1984.

Edit: Orwellian sentiment on the 25th anniversary of The Tienanmen Square Massacre... for shame!

You're a *** idiot.

Please explain to me how that comment, towards you in this situation, affects you in no way.

I'll give you a hand, it's a trick. Being angry elicits a desired response, saying you don't care still elicits a response from you, ignoring it is still an active response to something directed towards you. The only way for it not to affect you is for you not to see it.

Having to deal with people who dislike you because you're arresting them tends to get rid of the whole not seeing it portion.

People's views and opinions of you matter to everyone. Negative views change everyone when applied over a long enough time. Everyone's time is different. Go troll about how you don't care and how words don't matter somewhere else.

I also mentioned I am in EMS, not in law enforcement... so no, I am in no way the kind of person who becomes a cop that does the exact act portrayed.

I stand by my statement that you're obviously the type of person who turns officers into *** to begin with.


Forgive me for making the assumption that people would know I was speaking about the topic on hand, not in a general sense.

From what I see by some comments, some of you guys seem like you wouldn't mind living in a police state. Have you tried moving to North Korea? I'm sure you would feel right at home.

well since this is in the XI General section I'm going to assume you mean you're trying to stun a Delve boss or something. the only advice I can really give is make a claustrum

I'm going out on a limb and assuming this is towards me since I'm one of three people discussing it.

Please, quote me on where I make the comparison between lessening a headache by cooperating with simple request to allowing a totalitarian government.

Heaven forbid I defend municipal jobs by pointing out they do more good than harm. Ignore the fact I have first hand and inside experience, and should also ignore all my comments on me saying I thought the officer was overly aggressive. Please also continue to ignore my comments about how one bad experience does not a bad whole make, and the fact I have said half of cops are *** and proceeded to explain why half of cops are ***.

Actually, in my state you are required to have ID at all times. They made them free to obtain at the DMV for this very purpose. So not having ID here is in fact against the law.

"Five states’ laws (Arizona, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, and Ohio) explicitly impose an obligation to provide identifying information"

Seven states (Arizona, Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, New Mexico, Ohio, and Vermont) explicitly impose a criminal penalty for noncompliance with the obligation to identify oneself.

So yeah, we are in some places required by law to carry and identify when asked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

Stop and identify requires you to identify yourself (state your name, in most cases) when detained. There is no law requiring ID.

Innocent until proven guilty. According to you, one should kowtow anytime the cops decide they feel like screwing with you just to avoid a hassle.

Triffle is, unfortunately, another Canadian Retard.

That picture should have said: "Keep Calm and Korea On"

But I digress.

This is the internet, where half of the people arguing against your logic, are doing so with an empty barrel.

Maybe you should go down south. At least then when your rights are violated by the police state that uses excessive force because every citizen they meet might be carrying a gun, you can say it's fine because it's patriotic.

I'd like to throw my two cents in here, coming from over a decade in law enforcement.

1. You don't need to read Miranda upon arrest, during booking, prior to arraignment, pre-trial, trial, sentencing, or imprisonment. Miranda warning is to be read prior to an interrogation. COPS, Law & Order, and all the other shows have warped things a bit. Each department may stipulate Miranda applies on all charges and prior to booking, but that's a departmental policy and not law. You don't need to be questioned about a crime during booking, but I'm sure someone here will want to argue that.

2. One thing different in my state, Oklahoma, is if I approach a citizen and ask if he/she wants to talk to me they have the right to tell me where to go and what to do with myself when I get there and there's nothing I can do about it UNLESS I'm actively looking for a suspect and that person matches the description. If it's a person in a park, yeah, you can tell me to go away and fist pound my privates and I can't do a thing about it. You're also not required to have, carry, or produce identification here. Only a driver's license is required while driving and must be produced upon request by law enforcement during a traffic stop.

I've seen my share of people being tazed. Some times it only takes placing the red dot light on them to cause compliance, some times it takes multiple hits. Also, legally, nd officer is not required to state "(enter command here) or I will taze you". Simply failing to obey a LEGAL command is reason enough to be tazed, however, each department has their own use of force policies which the city attorney, state attorney, or what ever academy the department uses, has approved.

In closing, don't argue a ticket on the side of the road. Sign it, hire an attorney or go pro se, and go to court on the listed date. Save yourself some headache, undue stress, and possibility of becoming a youtube star. Also, remember, we don't create the laws, we enforce them. If you don't like a law, petition for the state/county/city to remove it.

Cop bashers always make me sad. (not necessarily standing up for the cop in this thread, but just overall). Like the type of people who go "hey piggy piggy" or other deragatory remarks when they see a cop drive by.

I've met a lot of pretty cool cops, and emergency personnel in general.

Like everyplace in life, there's good people and bad people, just like there's good cops and jerks who get off on having perceived power over others.

By all means, know your rights and exercise them in a polite fashion, but don't be a jerk and get all defensive if a cop is legitimately trying to do their job and operating within the law. There's def some monsters out there, but a good portion of them are decent people just doing their job. I can't even begin to imagine the intense things they see and ***/abuse they have to deal with.

Okay, so I watched the video, I originally skipped it considering I've seen upteenthousand taser videos.

I kind of grimaced a bit when the officer kept his knee on the woman's head. Although it appeared his weight was on his right knee and his left was on her head, she was cuffed. It was when she started acting like a moron (again) that I realized why he had his knee on her head. If you see a cop do that know that the person he or she is dealing with is a step away from being noticed by Darwin.

The video is one sided to say the least. She even made a threat about hitting someone and they die. Yes she seems like the pillar of the community, my aching ball sack. I wish I could have seen the events prior to her being on the ground. I loved the character statements leading up to the video.

Oh, and another thing, if you're a by stander, remember something very useful. STFU. Let me spell it out: Shut The Frigg Up. Bite your tongue. Chew some gum. Staple your lips shut. Don't insert yourself into the situation and gain the attention of officers dealing with a problem. I don't care how many episodes of your favorite legal show you've watched, nor do I care if you, or someone you know is an attorney, STFU.

/rant.....for now

Totally right, for some reason I was confusing it with the requirement to have ID to vote.

This girl got what she deserved. He he gave her multiple chances to find proof of insurance. She wouldn't listen.

He then told her he has to give her a ticket because she cannot prove to him that she has it. It is law and she should have proof. It's her burden to bear not his.

She got belligerent and emotional instead of remaining calm when he explained that since she couldn't prove she has insurance he has no choice but to issue her a ticket whether or not she was in the wrong or not!

When emotions get tense people can get hurt. He went to take control of the situation and she started refusing him. They can detain you and as ses the situation. Once they decide you hadn't done anything illegal they have to let you go, however in her case she continued to resist. I have no problem with what he done. He gave her clear direction multiple times on what would happen.

Am I the only one that was pissed she didn't roll her window down either? It's like pfft I'm not rolling my window down for you!

Take ticket + find your proof of insurance + attend court, show judge = Fine Dropped/Lessened = no taser or unjust force needed. Regardless, I think there was excessive force. Could this all had been easily avoided, yes.

And all the cop had to do was explain that. When I've earned a couple traffic tickets, the cop literally told me what I would have to do to get out of it.

Power-tripping because someone doesn't show automatic compliance is standard operating procedure for beat cops. Don't let's excuse that behavior.

Here you go

Leviathan.Chaosx said: »

I've really never had the 'opportunity' to be harassed by law enforcement.

It's usually the other way around, as in they kinda let me get away with a lot because they don't want to deal with me.


In other words you're vanilla and nothing you're doing is anything more than a mild irritation and doesn't warrant police action. Curfew violations and loitering isn't rolling big bro.

I still can't believe that loitering is a crime in the US lol

It makes sense when you have around 15 people all just standing around outside a convenience store blocking the doors to where you have to walk through the crowd just to go in.

At which point you may or may not be harassed by them.

Or in other places where a slightly smaller group is giving a place a bad image due to their demeanor, attitude, attire, etc.

It's there to get rid of the unwanted people. You know, the ones that do nothing but hurt a business's image. In most cases anyway, that's the application of it around here.

Thank you!

Ok, now comes a bit of clarification. She was aggressive and becoming more so as their conversation continued. The officer, in an attempt to defuse and continue his report, ordered her to back away and stand by her car. Where I disagree with him is his statement of "I'll give you your license back when I give you your ticket", that set her off. After that it became a down hill slide into obstruction and resisting.

Also, she didn't get tazed by a long shot, she got drive stunned which is a lot, let me repeat A LOT less painful than the full deployment which locks up the body, causes pain/discomfort, etc. This was blown way out of proportion, there is no case, no law suit, and no criminal action by the officer. Hell, he even stated he was trying not to hurt her. If he was trying to cause her pain he'd have not used the tazer and instead extended an expandable baton and went to work.

/rant....oh who am I kidding

Clearly screaming and arguing with the cops when the ask for your insurance because you don't have it is always a great idea. Don't forget to yell at the cops about your rights, and be as resistant and angry as possible.

Always works.

Ok, so when both probes attach it is worse than a drive stun.....

Love how the taser doesn't do anything to that guy. lol