LGBT Politically Correct Police

RuPaul has gone on two very public interviews to call-out word policing in the LGBT community.

RuPaul Further Responds to Transphobic Accusations: "I've Been a 'Tra@ny' For 32 Years"



RUPAUL ON LGBT SPEECH POLICE: 'B*TCH, YOU NEED TO GET STRONGER




It's kinda interesting that RuPaul is in this media ***-storm and his show has yet to be cancelled. Whereas Duck Dynasty and HGTV have been cancelled or come under much worse scrutiny. Seems political correctness is not a two-way street.

What I really like about these articles is RuPaul is highlighting this "fringe" of LGBT that is overly politically correct and coming down on public figures. So this has less to do with transphobia, and more like the Gay Fascism thread. I really agree with his statement: "If your idea of happiness has to do with someone else changing--what they say, what they do--you are in for a *** hard-*** road."

You didn't bleep *** on your link!

/reports

This has nothing to do with those other situations nor are there any parallels. I like RuPaul and Drag Race is a must-watch for me, but he's just being stubborn at this point with his argument becoming less and less relevant the more he makes it.

Actually they do because ultimately it all goes back to political correct policing. People should be entitled to freedom of speech without this ridiculous amount of public scrutiny.

But, it's better to scrutinize without being scrutinized.

Kindof like "Do what I say, not as what I do."

Which is what many LGBT orgs are guilty of imo. They are hypocrites at best and these "pigs forgot why they had a revolution in the first place."

LGBT didn't have this civil rights movement to start policing the thoughts and speech of the public it was to gain civil equality, and now that that is happening it seems like they have nothing better to do than to police the thoughts and speech of the public.

EDIT: Madonna used the "n-word" on her instagram earlier this year. You didn't see every African-American organization coming down on her. I think that says something about word-policing in today's day-and-age.

I really don't want to have this exact same argument about the consequences of free speech with you every other week. It's boring and there's nothing new to say.

More on topic, I think Ru does genuine good for the community as a whole with his general message of self-acceptance and fostering a sense of family among LGBT individuals who may feel ostracized and isolated. I think he remains steadfast to his philosophy (even though I don't agree with this one argument), and I don't believe he makes his point out of a place of hatred. I can't say the same for those others who have recently come under LGBT scrutiny so *** 'em. They deserved it.

He's just burning through his goodwill now and eventually his network is going to get sick of it. But yes, boo hoo towards the bigots with no redeeming qualities. y can't they haz tv shows?

More like they are too busy demeaning themselves.

How fun: I knew precisely who posted this topic long before I clicked on it.

Lmao, wanted to post the same thing!

Cisgender people (such as RuPaul) do not get to decide which slurs are offensive to trans people. End of story. The fact that he is gay or a drag queen is irrelevant. He has a platform, and has chosen to use it to spread ignorance about a minority he is not even a part of.

He's wrong about the fringe thing, but it's easy to dismiss us when he never listened in the first place. He's a wealthy entertainer, and has been out of touch with how things are for the rest of the LGBT community that aren't, for years. And we've been also been calling him out on this for years. He can't even fathom the concept of a word that was used to apply to himself decades ago, has changed to a slur against another group.

I find it hilarious he called out Amanda Bynes last year for using an anti-gay slur, but he is totally okay with slurs against other marginalized groups. He's an immature hypocrite.

While there are some trans women who have claimed the word for themselves, the rest of us consider it a slur, and the decision of whether or not it can, or should be reclaimed, is not one that should be coming from RuPaul, or really any cisgender person. The majority do not dictate what is offensive to a minority. It has never worked that way, it never will.

There is a difference between political correctness and asking people to not use dehumanizing slurs that defame an entire marginalized minority. Unless you want to say that heterosexuals not referring to gay men as f****ts is "too PC", because that's the route you're advocating.

This is not the LGBT as a whole but a few very vociferous mal-contents. As a gay man who delt with more discrimination than younger LGBT I see this stuff in the news and I'm appalled. Seriously these LGBT who have never faced discrimination, because other/older LGBT handed them civil/social equality on a silver platter, need to shut the *** up already. You're giving the movement a bad name.

We've come a long way, but attempting to police the public is ridiculous. What's more appalling is policing figures who've done more for the community than most individuals.

Darling, he's one of the most famous gays. He is receiving large amounts of media coverage. The only people who aren't listening to them are the LGBT in butt-*** middle America. The rest of us in modern-civilization listen to him.

My hetero friends use the word f#g, queen, gurl all the time and so do my transgender and lesbian friends. I don't care because I know where it's coming from. I know it's not being used in a derogatory manner. So yes I'd being saying the same thing if he used f@g. Hence why I support people to have differing opinions on marriage.

Not everyone in this world is going to like you or agree with you, but if you are going to make a big hissy-fit because some person calls you a f@g or thinks marriage should be between a man and woman, well you have bigger problems.

Maybe some people will stop using tra#ny when the transgender community stops using "Cis" to describe others. Many find it offensive.



Perhaps because I'm the only sensible LGBT who has actually been exposed to REAL LGBT culture, and not based my opinions off wiki or television. These LGBT who throw a *** fit about differing opinions or words are usually from some butt-*** no-where city and have had literally zero interaction with a large LGBT population.

You clearly learned nothing from it, since you see nothing wrong with discrimination against others. And I like the automatic assumption you've faced more than we have. So I guess you're fully aware of the physical scars I bare and the friends I have lost due to transphobic ***, and half-assed support from your generation and community, among other things.

Seriously, stop throwing around the LGBT acronym when you don't know about anything beyond the "G". We're only a united front if we can respect each other, and if you advocate for the usage of slurs against another segment, then you're not doing that.



I'm going to have to stop you here. The older generation didn't hand us (the trans community) ***. They ignored us, pushed us aside, had protections for us removed from anti-discrimination legislation (ENDA, SONDA) so they could get theirs, and even erased us from the history from a movement we *** started. Because of that, there is a huge chasm between the inequality transgender people face, and that gays and lesbians face. Our fight is far from over, so step out of our way and get back to your party in WeHo.


Which, we should do. If someone is doing something harmful, make them aware of it and try and educate them on why that's not okay. Otherwise whatever they've done is eventually going to be overshadowed by their miss-steps.

RuPaul has not done a thing for the trans community, besides telling people slurs that are used against us are an okay thing to do, and telling us to shut up.


Modern civilization in 1995, maybe. He's famous, but when he says things like this, it shows how out of step he is with the modern LGBT rights movement. And don't patronize me by calling me "darling.".


Friends being the operative word here. I don't mean friends, I mean everyone. Because that's what you and RuPaul are advocating for when you say this. If RuPaul gets to say that word is okay, then it becomes okay for those in the majority outside of every minority to declare what terminology is and is not okay. So yes, with this logic, straights can use the f-word, and whites can use every racial slur under the sun without impunity.

This is exactly why the majority do NOT call the shots when it comes to what offends a minority group. RuPaul is cisgender, and thus NOT a part the minority that this word is used to debase and defame as he says there is nothing wrong with this word. The word may have been okay 30-something years ago, but it's 2014, and this has been offensive for over a decade.

I like that you completely ignore the hypocrisy in RuPaul telling trans people to lighten up, but it's okay for him to call out Amanda Bynes for using an anti-gay slur, regardless of her intent. Again, he's an immature hypocrite.

In the simplest form of this whole issue, we said "Stop it, that hurts." His response is to keep doing it. Sounds like a bully to me, definitely not an ally.

Words are words, if you take offense to them then you have a small mind.

There's no such thing as a bad word, only bad people, and context matters, not what was said, but how it was said.

People really need to get their panties out of a knot and get on with their damn lives.

Tell that to a marketing executive. Words matter.

That's your opinion, but they really don't. Words are only what you perceive them to be, and you chose to make them matter.

When did West Hollywood become the epicenter of the current LGBT zeitgeist? I must have missed that vote.

Words don't matter, context matters.

If people want to take things out of context and spin it to their own devices, that's their prerogative, but they're working from a disadvantage transparent for all but those who had preemptively adopted a stance.

It's LA: the whole place is completely up its own ***. I suspect NYC is marginally worse, but it's like comparing two migraine headaches with different causes but the same symptoms.

i wish all lgbt were like baconwrap so we could stop hearing about the hurt feelings brigade every other week

You mean the person who keeps validating the "hurt feelings brigade" by re-posting and whining about them every other week?

was referring more specifically to the 'not caring what people say' part than his posting

will never be able to effectively police speech globally, only way for those people to win is to be able to let it go

The whole point of sharing an idea publicly is to ask people to consider it. I'd say that "hurt feelings brigade" could just as easily describe those who can't back their ***up and face the consequences of acting like a ***.

You get the cold shoulder when you act like a *** to someone. Is it really surprising?

there are situations where words are used hatefully and rightfully criticized

when it drags into casual use of words like '***' that aren't known by the speaker to be offensive, it's playing the victim

'It's not the word itself, but the intention behind the word'

your fringe group deciding the terms they feel most comfortable with is great, but not everyone is going to take the time to educate themselves on those words and someone who uses a less PC word without knowledge of them isn't doing anything wrong

Someone can have the impenetrable hide of a dinosaur and it wouldn't matter if oppressive language gives others the impression that it's ok to treat minority groups as inferior. Thick skin helps but it's not a solution.

paper-thin skin is a visible detriment to the cause

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you not white, male, and heterosexual? How can you credibly make any claim about the effect of offensive group-words when none can be reasonably leveled against you? I could call you a honky or a breeder 'til I'm blue in the face and it is unlikely to affect you because there's no power behind that... unless I happen to be African-American and you're deep in the inner city ghetto where the power structure inverts.

And the issue with RuPaul is that he has been informed repeatedly that he is offending people. He enjoys doing so. He's a jerk-*** who really needs to be ignored. But these *** keep giving him credence...