I'm not a liberal, at least by any current definition of the term, but continue being delusional, after all: it's what you're best at.
None of those things are scandals or lies, but go on and continue pretending they are, as it's the only thing you have, as you have nothing.
I don't care if you consider what Clinton said a lie or not, I have my own beef with the man, and it has to do with a lot more important things than him getting a ***.
You're a hardline Fox dribble troll, and that's all you're good for.
Comcast Looking To Impose Data Limits
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Comcast looking to impose data limits
Jetackuu said: » I'm not a liberal Why not be honest with yourself more?
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » A) I don't use Comcast, so it's not directly effecting me. Asura.Kingnobody said: » B) There are multiple options everywhere, you just got to know where to look. If GM was the only person who made cars you can't say that by another company selling horses, that they have competition... Asura.Kingnobody said: » C) I'm not defending anything. I mentioned that the Satellite internet providers have been doing these restrictions for years, and some people are finally pitching a fit over it because it's Comcast doing it...
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » You may think it doesn't but it will have an indirect effect. It sets a precedent which will spread rapidly through other ISPs. Also, any people or sites that DO have Comcast(which is going to be a giganitic portion of the US after the merger) will have the issue so that may affect you in part to certain sites or people. Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » ***. Sure... you can get dial up or satilite instead but neither of those options is viable in today's world. Some areas even offer slightly better DSL but that's still borderline worthless. So yeah... you can claim the same *** the ISPs claim but it isn't a practical solution and it doesn't create competition. If GM was the only person who made cars you can't say that by another company selling horses, that they have competition... I use Clear ISP, and it looks like they are hitting everywhere that Comcast and Time Warner Cable has a strong hold in. And it's better internet than Time Warner and ATT (another competitor, oh my!) in my opinion. Then there's Sprint, Verison, heck, even Hughsnet is available to most people. To say that there is no competition for internet service providers is like saying that there is no other car manufacturers other than General Motors...oh wai.... Ragnarok.Sekundes said: » There are many companies who have data caps in various things but unless they came out of the gate with those data caps, you're full of it if you think no one cared or didn't say anything. I apparently used 466GB of data in March, and 231GB of data in April, I need to dig to see if I can see how much I used before I moved my server here.
edit: I forgot that I rebuilt it in March, I don't recall when I moved it, but I have no way of finding out really now. Oh well. Asura.Kingnobody said: » I use Clear ISP, and it looks like they are hitting everywhere that Comcast and Time Warner Cable has a strong hold in. And it's better internet than Time Warner and ATT (another competitor, oh my!) in my opinion. He links to a page that directly says they are part of Sprint then goes on to talk about Sprint as if its different >.>
Shiva.Onorgul said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » I use Clear ISP, and it looks like they are hitting everywhere that Comcast and Time Warner Cable has a strong hold in. And it's better internet than Time Warner and ATT (another competitor, oh my!) in my opinion. I haven't seen any difference in service recently either. Well crap, now I may have to change my ISP if it starts becoming crappy. There's pretty much no reason to support this ever; unless they're buying you out.
It's likely their lowest plans, at minimum are going to be the same price people are paying now; and increase from there. That said, nobody is going to save money from this (or a very very small minority)
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » You think that this is the first ISP to issue limits after the fact but they really aren't. The precedent has already been set, and this can either have no effect to the company or have them lose customers. I do not think it is the first and nor do I think it will the last but you need to understand how critical it is when an ISP as large as comcast and of the cable broadband variety starts doing it. If we just roll over and taking it, this WILL impact other ISPs and it is not in a direction internet users are going to like. Asura.Kingnobody said: » I use Clear ISP, and it looks like they are hitting everywhere that Comcast and Time Warner Cable has a strong hold in. And it's better internet than Time Warner and ATT (another competitor, oh my!) in my opinion. Then there's Sprint, Verison, heck, even Hughsnet is available to most people. To say that there is no competition for internet service providers is like saying that there is no other car manufacturers other than General Motors...oh wai.... Trust me when I say that a cell phone data network is not a replacement for a solid broadband internet. What's your data cap on your internet right now? And what kind of ping times do you get? Part of this has been addressed by others saying clear is owned by sprint. And things like this will continue to happen. If left to their own devices, larger companies will eat up and shutdown what's left of the already meager competition. I'm sad that my analogy fell on deaf ears. I thought it was pretty funny in a frighteningly accurate way. Yes, there are a couple for some people but saying there are plenty of options for MOST people is just plain wrong. You can make claims that seem good to the uninformed or the outside and this is exactly what the large ISPs are saying to sweep the details under the rug so they can make more money by taking advantage of monopolistic conditions and special protections. Asura.Kingnobody said: » I had Hughsnet ISP before they came out with these limits, and as soon as they started having these limits, I dropped them and switched to ATT. Just because you limit yourself to what you first see without shopping around doesn't mean that everyone else does the same. Not our fault you are lazy. I had ATT at first, they pissed me off with their shitty service and billing so I switched to TWC, which also has sucked and has terrible service. My only other options right now would drastically reduce my ability to do my job or play my games. Both of these companies are the same. And if they have their way, one will eventually buy the other, if not they will continue to circumvent competition by intentionally cutting out service areas and splitting them up so they don't compete as much and price fixing. Please, look around and research this. We don't need anyone excusing this due to lack of information. If you took a bit to research, you'd see how terrible the US's connections are vs the rest of the world and would be able to see why the situation has let itself get so bad. You point at me saying I'm lazy and everything would be rainbows and butterflies if I'd just get off my *** and look around but I feel you've made a huge mistake.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » The Onion is not a reliable source Jet. Just letting you know there. Actually King, a lot of things the government does is because corporations are backing them or threatening otherwise. Remember Google's blackout? Congress had to shoot down SOPA and PIPA because of Google blacking out. Then there's the fact of there is already cures for cancer (See: Immunotherapy) but the government won't sanction the cure. Why? Because they make way too much off of chemo-therapy to willingly accept the cures. It's not tin foil hatting though, this is real stuff and it makes me want to vomit when people find out they truly have no say unless they are holding a big wad of cash in front of a politician. I mean, who do you think the main funders of the election candidates' campaigns are? Cablevision ftw. Will never touch Comcast, personally.
No restrictions, very fast, and lots of first notices about copyright nonsense. They just change your IP for their own legal reasons. Last first notice was 4-5 years ago too. Also tons of Wifi hot spots all around too. Google's (and a lot of other parts of the internet's) blackout was some corporate pressure butting heads with other corporate pressure. Bob Goodlatte is who we have to thank for being the puppet of the pro overbearing copyright/patent masters and putting that bill and subsequent ones in front of others, it baffles me as to how he has kept his seat for over 20 years.
Comcast had a monopoly on high speed internet when I lived in Downtown San Jose, so I had to put up with their crap for 4 years. I went over their then cap of 250GB plenty of times, however they don't really do anything about it but send a warning letter and try to sell me Business Class Cable internet(i.e. the same ***as residential, speed and all) which costs 3 times as much for no reason. Its sickening that companies are allowed to do this. Google Fiber has already made plans on entering this area and hopefully either force Comcast to delimit its customers or go out of business for good.
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Lakshmi.Inspectorgadget said: » Comcast had a monopoly on high speed internet when I lived in Downtown San Jose, so I had to put up with their crap for 4 years. I went over their then cap of 250GB plenty of times, however they don't really do anything about it but send a warning letter and try to sell me Business Class Cable internet(i.e. the same ***as residential, speed and all) which costs 3 times as much for no reason. Its sickening that companies are allowed to do this. Google Fiber has already made plans on entering this area and hopefully either force Comcast to delimit its customers or go out of business for good. I'm just so jealous of all these other cities getting it and I don't see much hope in this area getting it. Regardless, even just having google fiber talk about your area is likely going to have some competitive forces start churning so enjoy! Whats the matter guys? All I hear in these forums is that more regulations and more taxes are good things! Sucks when it starts hitting close to home huh!
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Interestingly enough, it looks like the best way to get Google to look at your area is to get with your city and get them to send Google the records they need to survey it. OR better yet as a lot of it is public record, you can attempt to do a lot of the work for them. I'm assuming a certain population density is required for them to consider it if they have a lot of work to do still, but if a city has a lot of the infrastructure in place, well then it wouldn't be hard for them to roll in.
It'd be a matter of politics though at that point. I am SO happy to be on Grant County Fiber.
Fiber to my wall from a public utility district. And electrical costs so low I can afford to mine bitcoins. I just can't afford the mining computer. Or the air conditioner. Maybe for winter. /laugh Altimaomega said: » Whats the matter guys? All I hear in these forums is that more regulations and more taxes are good things! Sucks when it starts hitting close to home huh! Garuda.Chanti said: » I am SO happy to be on Grant County Fiber. Fiber to my wall from a public utility district. And electrical costs so low I can afford to mine bitcoins. I just can't afford the mining computer. Or the air conditioner. Maybe for winter. /laugh I know you have an issue seeing outside of your "us vs them" world, but just because I don't agree with you or your fellow neocons, it doesn't make me a liberal.
No Jet. Its the cost of the electricity for the computer / value of bitcoins.
The biggest bitcoin mine is in Wenatchee, Douglass County. Also a PUD. They have the lowest electrical rates on the continent. I have the second lowest. Garuda.Chanti said: » No Jet. Its the cost of the electricity for the computer / value of bitcoins. The biggest bitcoin mine is in Wenatchee, Douglass County. Also a PUD. They have the lowest electrical rates on the continent. I have the second lowest. It's more than just electrical costs factored into the equation, plus nothing you just said had much to do with I just said, nor invalidated it. Jetackuu said: » I know you have an issue seeing outside of your "us vs them" world, but just because I don't agree with you or your fellow neocons, it doesn't make me a liberal. You know its funny that you say that because just because ppl don't agree with you doesn't make them a neocon, just saying.
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aeronx said: » Jetackuu said: » I know you have an issue seeing outside of your "us vs them" world, but just because I don't agree with you or your fellow neocons, it doesn't make me a liberal. You know its funny that you say that because just because ppl don't agree with you doesn't make them a neocon, just saying. Jetackuu said: » aeronx said: » Jetackuu said: » I know you have an issue seeing outside of your "us vs them" world, but just because I don't agree with you or your fellow neocons, it doesn't make me a liberal. You know its funny that you say that because just because ppl don't agree with you doesn't make them a neocon, just saying. lol how did I know you were going to say something like that. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its not a duck aka a liberal, is what your saying? I mean honestly what do you expect ppl to think when they read half your post and almost all of them have a leftist spin, I know your a progressive and they are completely difference I see where the confusion is.
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I don't expect somebody with the grammar of a 10 year old to understand, I really don't.
Yes there is a difference between a progressive and what neocons and other conservatives think a liberal is, something many people don't comprehend. Jetackuu said: » Altimaomega said: » Whats the matter guys? All I hear in these forums is that more regulations and more taxes are good things! Sucks when it starts hitting close to home huh! lol ok so your made about the FCC putting the smack down, and your mad that no regulation at all exists.. Bravo you've entered D. feinstein territory.... Hypocrite! |
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