Donald Sterling Banned From NBA Games For Life

Yeesh man internet is so hard and clearly you must be trolling hard to not understand a simple way of saying keep ur mouth shut about hate and life is good.

Keep all the hate you want in your heart but if you let it out people will hold it against you how ever it comes to light but I give lol.

Except in the case of being interrogated by the police (you know, before your lawyer shows up), if you don't plead the 5th you could possibly be slammed with impeding an investigation, or impeding an officer in the line of duty.

*** overused charges that the police use to enforce their will upon the people, you just have to know how to get around them and not let them intimidate you.

Follow the money.

Haters gonna hate.

It's always the money in Corporate world your image is huge and tarnish the shield and your out no matter how it happens unless you own it all. Once the advertisers start to walk action will happen and heads will roll....

I have no problems with everyone knowing he is a racist f*ck wad. I have a problem with a professional organization attempting to harm his finances and deprive him of tens of millions of USD (he wont' get close to full value if he has to sell the team) over comments made in private.

You have the right to say whatever you want to say in private and not be physically or financially harmed from it.

It is called the 4th Amendment. Also, the 1st Amendment protects you from persecution from private comments and opinions.

These were private conversations made public illegally for the purpose of entertainment and advertising revenue for TMZ. By law Sterling has the right to recover damages from this whole fiasco due to the illegality of TMZ and their source.

Your argument is that nobody has any private conversations and that anything anyone ever said is consider public property. That is not true, and for the love of God I hope it will never be true. Your argument is weak because you are basing your argument on a society that doesn't exist.

I think that would be appropriate for this guy.

That, or he was very successful being a troll. Your pick.

Nope won't hold up in court. The police can't interrogate you without first informing you of your constitutional rights. Immediately you can simply state that you have nothing to say without a lawyer present and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

Side note, it's 100% legal for police officers to lie to you during an investigation. Always assume everything coming out of their mouth is a lie and never, ever say anything to the police without a lawyer present. No good can ever come of it.

Famous video that's perfect advice for every single person in the USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Public image is but an illusion and can always be re-branded and re-bought. To weed out the true source of hate takes a special kind of force unknown to the world for quite some time now.

Pretty much just doesn't matter once its PUBLIC and the NBA couldn't hide it he was done. He has a history and it caught up with him. When the dollars stops sponsoring the team, the players talk boycott he was done.

That type of hate is ingrained into society. There is nothing we can do to take it out, because you can never change everyone's opinion. Heck, it takes a long time just to change your own opinion...

First things first.

TMZ is legally classified as a media outlet. Note: NOT MEDIA NEWS OUTLET.
Fox is also a media outlet. FOX NEWS IS MEDIA ENTERTAINMENT just like TMZ.

Media covers a vast amount of ground from what we read (comics, newspapers, books) to what we watch (day time drama, comedy, etc.) because of how we receive it.

Great, now that that's settled, let's move on.

Sterling, having given permission to record private messages, regardless of the reason, means that, unless the recordings were strictly in his possession, they can be used any number of ways legally - including being released to the press by the other party involved in the recording - in this instance, his ex-girlfriend, since both parties consented to the recording.

Was it a *** move by a slighted ex-girlfriend? Absolutely. Was it illegal? Not at all.

Do I think Donald Sterling is a complete and utter tool for the way he interacts privately, and publicly? Totally.

Should he have been ***-canned long before this? Again, totally.

Does he harbor damaging publicity for the Clippers, and the NBA as a whole? You bet your fat *** he does.

This isn't some grass stain on a white t-shirt metaphor that's getting him ***-canned, no sirree bob. He's essentially tarnished the entire image of the NBA over decades of inscrutable actions, which in my *opinion* means he's metaphorically dragged the entire organization through enough ***that it's left a permanent stain the entire institution, from the top brass to the fans. That alone is more than enough reason to cause a 75% vote to ban for life.

The Force is not strong with anyone.

Must be why we lack Jedi and have an overabundance of Sith Lords

She didn't release the conversation, and CA is a "two party consent" state, meaning that both Sterling and his ex have to both sign a release statement in order for TMZ to legally release that conversation out to the public.

Since neither did, it was released illegally, and they can't use the 1st Amendment to hide behind. They are not "the press"

The argument was that TMZ was a part of the media. Part of what the media does, is find things worth ratings. It's not limited to just "The Press", as in news media outlets.

They dig up the most unscrupulous dirt they can find on big celebrities, or people with fame and celebrity status, to write about, or do stories on. Are they News Media? No. But they are still media, and employ writers and journalists.

I did a quick over-view on CA consent laws, and you're correct - I retract part of my statement.

Hell the f*ck no. That is NOT how that works. While only one side needs to informed in order for a conversation to be recorded, but both sides need to authorize that conversation to become public domain.

This has already been settled, electronic recordings of communications are protected in the exact same way written communications are. Someone can not break into your house, steal your mail, then release it to the public without breaking the law. Even if one party physically gave the tapes to TMZ, they still could not make them part of the public domain without his authorization or a court judge granting that authorization. They couldn't even provide transcripts. The most they could do is run a story where they say they "heard" him say those things and then it would fall under the rules of here-say and libel.

I can tell you that you're absolutely wrong on the first note.

The second part is true and good advice however, and we've covered that video previously.

What matters is how they used the information that was obtained illegally.

They used it to destroy a man's life, and they used it for their own personal profit. He did not reveal his conversation, and if TMZ was the one who actually created (aka wiretapped) the recording, then that is an illegal search and seizure.

TMZ can't be part of the media because their "reports" are only for entertainment purposes, not informational. But since there is not a defined definition of what is "media" and what isn't, this whole issue is a gray area. I don't think they would be able to hide behind the 1st amendment on this issue, however, due to the fact of the purpose of releasing this private conversation.

Nope I am 100% correct on this. You can not be compelled to say jack sh!t to the police. This has been settled by a federal court already. Even if you are not under indictment nor under investigation you can not be compelled to speak a single word. The police could ask you what color the sky was and you have zero obligation to answer the question. In fact all you have to say is that you want to speak with a lawyer and they can't ask anything else, regardless of what police drama's would have us believe. 4th and 5th amendment protections are always assumed unless you specifically waive them.

Whomever told you otherwise has lied to you. A police investigator attempting to violate those protections would place the entire case in jeopardy as any competent defense consul would get the entire case thrown out on that technicality alone.

They can interrogate you, they just can't use it in a criminal trial.

As you already said: the police can lie about anything. They don't have to tell you anything.

You confused the different part of the argument beyond that.

The police and a judge have informed me otherwise, sorry I'll take their word above yours.

The police do not have to inform you of your miranda rights, and that alone will not get the charges dropped, no matter how much you or I think otherwise.

You're confusing news media with entertainment media.
As I pointed out already, TMZ is part of the Media Entertainment section, along with Fox News - because they are classified as Entertainment Media, and not News Media.

News Media are supposed to provide informational news through various media channels such as radio, television, and newspapers.

Entertainment Media provides entertainment through the same channels listed above.

Here just for you jet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


That last part was found to extend to any police interrogation as any interrogation would be part of an ongoing investigation and thus you could be a defendant in that investigation and those interrogations could be entered as evidence against you.

You never have to talk to the police.

The other stuff you said is bullsh!t and this is my calling you a liar.

You know what, I just double checked the 1st Amendment. We are both wrong.

The 1st Amendment protects us from the government from prosecution of reporting and establishing information. It does not protect the media from reporting and establishing slander against another person. So, in this case, the 1st Amendment would not apply.

Seems people still believe asking an undercover cop are you a cop gets them off lol....

Yes and no. Civil law takes over from here. Chances are TMZ couldn't be held liable in a criminal court but civil liability is a different matter entirely. If they obtained those tapes and released their contents to the public domain without first getting written authorization from both parties, then they definitely are going to end up liable for whatever monetary damages the release incurred.

You should of got a better lawyer instead of representing yourself. Otherwise I'm positive your lieing through your teeth to save face. Wouldn't be the first time you did it.