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Chi Blast question
Carbuncle.Quamba
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By Carbuncle.Quamba 2009-07-31 15:22:18
Ok, to start, monk is a new 75 for me and I was looking to mess around with Chi Blast a little bit. From what I understand, mods are Mind and #of Boosts. Currently I have +50 mind for my build and with 11-12 boosts, connection lag varies, I do around 600 dmg. Is this normal? I have seen other monks do upwards of 1k dmg and was wondering if there were any other monks out there that could give me some pointers. Thanks for the input.
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By Carbuncle.Littlevegeta 2009-07-31 15:38:58
yeah, *** as much mnd as you can, then eat a goblin mushpot, and sub whm for higher base mnd.
most i have ever gotten was 1400 on kirin without brd songs
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By Carbuncle.Quamba 2009-07-31 15:47:11
well how much +mnd ? do you work with for that kinda damage? i appreciate the input
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By Carbuncle.Littlevegeta 2009-07-31 15:55:46
well my whm is only 32 so my base mnd is 66 then i have +71 mnd (i still could do better in rings and earring department) and then +10 from goblin mushpot so 66+71+10=147
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By Shiva.Drteeth 2009-07-31 15:56:13
Are you boosting with your AF gloves?
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By Carbuncle.Littlevegeta 2009-07-31 15:56:54
Drteeth said: Are you boosting with your AF gloves? i do, then i swap out my gloves on last boost then chi blast
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By Shiva.Drteeth 2009-07-31 15:58:52
I don't know about the 600 damage Chi Blasts. Which mob(s) were you hitting 600 on?
Edit: Since the magical damage resistance nerf a little while back, Chi Blast can get resisted if the mob you're fighting is being hit by elemental spells and weapon skills.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-31 16:00:51
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By Carbuncle.Littlevegeta 2009-07-31 16:05:18
hmm i did not know of that sash, was thinking more of the one from gnole nm, will have to try and get the one in that item set, very sexy
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-31 16:06:50
Carbuncle.Quamba
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By Carbuncle.Quamba 2009-07-31 17:46:42
well i did the lesser colibri right outside the gate, yea i know expected low dmg on thoes anyway, but then same results on spiders, then tried to pick my spirits up and picked on a bee outside port basty...573 dmg /fail, so i gave up XD
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By Asura.Zekky 2009-07-31 18:07:32
This was pre-Suzzy feet, pre-HQ MNK AF legs/head and I had only one BRD +MND song on me at the time I chi blasted. Trio'ing Genbu with a BRD and a RDM is fun stuff. Also /WHM here too. Edit: Still working on completing the rest of my +MND build. Like one of those belts that old Bart stated. And upping my earrings. =d
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-08-01 00:12:33
Boost in AF gloves, 12 boosts is max u can get w/o random deal, or some stuff like that. General rule of thumb (not exact), mnd x10 for max chi dmg w/ x12 af gloves boosts.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-08-01 01:08:04
Vegetto said: Boost in AF gloves, 12 boosts is max u can get w/o random deal, or some stuff like that. General rule of thumb (not exact), mnd x10 for max chi dmg w/ x12 af gloves boosts. so that elvaan mnk/whm set 72+85 157 x10 = 1500ish ;p
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Lakshmi.Bshizzle
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By Lakshmi.Bshizzle 2009-10-07 19:19:30
If it is simply number of boosts that modifies it, what benefit is wearing AF gloves?
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By Asura.Zekky 2009-10-07 19:31:14
Bshizzle said: If it is simply number of boosts that modifies it, what benefit is wearing AF gloves? Do you really have to ask or are you unable to read? Temple GlovesThey enhance boost. Boost and MND are the modifiers behind Chi Blast. So if you enhance one of the modifiers, what do you think will happen? You swap out AF hands when you actually chi blast though with MND+ hands. Devotee's Mitts +1 or the NQ if you can't afford/find HQ.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-07 19:39:16
OH SNAP! Been awhile since I've seen zekky pwn someone
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By Lakshmi.Bshizzle 2009-10-08 02:01:01
AF gloves increase the amount of attack gained by boosting, ATTACK is not a modifier of Chi Blast only the NUMBER of boosts. So again I ask what benefit is it to use AF gloves when boosting for Chi Blast?
I am not saying there isn't one, I just want to know what it is because I use chi blast in sky.
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By Ramuh.Konoko 2009-10-08 02:27:11
They boost Chi Blast by 5.5% as well. Not just the attack. Look at the wiki article for them.
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By Asura.Zekky 2009-10-08 02:58:29
I want to straggle you sometimes, Bshizzle, because every time you post a question about MNK and people help out with a straight forward answer, you make stupid, snarky remarks that clearly shows your experience with your MNK job. We didn't say attack was a modifier for chi blast. Boost is a modifier for attack and chi blast. Being that the AF hands modify BOOST, that means it would modify ATTACK and chi blast. So I'm gonna quote myself from another post: Zekky said: Do you really have to ask or are you unable to read? Because it would appear you're unable to read or comprehend basic information that is given to you from us, from other threads or what is available on Wiki.
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By Asura.Zekky 2009-10-09 18:36:38
Unfortunately I didn't have my KO or earrings on with me when I took this SS but dmg with 12 boosts and both MND songs from a BRD. Did this last night when helping a friend get zenith mitts.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-09 18:39:30
Just for the love of Christ, please don't have a /p macro for your Boost.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 20:06:08
Sandraa said: Quamba said: Ok, to start, monk is a new 75 for me and I was looking to mess around with Chi Blast a little bit. From what I understand, mods are Mind and #of Boosts. Currently I have +50 mind for my build and with 11-12 boosts, connection lag varies, I do around 600 dmg. Is this normal? I have seen other monks do upwards of 1k dmg and was wondering if there were any other monks out there that could give me some pointers. Thanks for the input. You need 60 - 70 + MIND for HIT 1000 damage. And you need do all the boosts with AF Gloves. If you boost without AF gloves your damage will be "Too Weak" not sure where you're getting those numbers, only need 100 mnd to do about 1k dmg. I don't know which race has that low of mnd where you need +60 to hit 100 (aka 40 base)
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By Asura.Eeek 2009-10-09 20:44:51
Zekky said: Unfortunately I didn't have my KO or earrings on with me when I took this SS but dmg with 12 boosts and both MND songs from a BRD. Did this last night when helping a friend get zenith mitts. <3
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-09 20:49:41
Vegetto said: not sure where you're getting those numbers, only need 100 mnd to do about 1k dmg. I don't know which race has that low of mnd where you need +60 to hit 100 (aka 40 base)
I'm not sure its possible to get only 40 in any stat with any job at 75 with any subjob at 37. For example my 75 TARU blm/rdm has 49 str as its lowest stat
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-10-09 21:05:43
The Wiki talk page said: Gear: the max number you can get (full time) is +86. With proper conditions you can reach +94 (+3 on Besieged, +5 with obi enchantment).
- Kirin's Pole (+10)
- Raptor Leather Strap +1 (+2)
- Mercenary's Dart (+3 on Besieged only)
- Temple Crown +1 (+8)
- Faith Torque / Promise Badge (+5)
- Celestial Earring (+3)x2 Good luck finding these; next options are Comunion Earring / Star Earring (+2)x2
- Kirin's Osode (+10)
- Devotee's Mitts (+6) In case you swap from Temple Gloves just before the Blast.
- Communion Ring / Aqua ring / Celestial Ring / Psi ring (+5)x2
- Melee Cape (+5)
- Ksi Sash (+5) / Deductive Brocade Obi (+10 1min enchantment, 10min recast)
- Temple Hose +1 (+4)
- Susaku's Sune-ate (+15)
Race: This is the MND per Race on MNK w/o subjob
Elvaan = 65, Hume = 56, Galka = 56, Tarutaru = 53, Mithra = 53
Subjob: /WHM (+11), /BLU (+10 with proper equipped spells), /RDM /PLD /SMN (+9)
Food: Goblin Mushpot (+10)
Other
Merits: (+5)
BRD songs: Logical Etude (+15), Spirited Etude (+9) (+17, +11 respectively with Rose Harp+1 / Mythic Hrp+1 / Gjallahorn)
Mind potion: boosts MND 10%-50%
MAX POSSIBLE MND
On Besieged, with a max geared (enchanted) Elvaan MNK/WHM, on Goblin Mushpot, with full meritted MND, songs from a geared BRD and a lucky Mind Potion:
(94+65+11+10+5+28)*1.5 = (213)*1.5 = 319.5
Possible 3195 damage every 3 minutes.
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By Unicorn.Motokosun 2009-10-09 22:14:38
Vegetto said: Sandraa said: Quamba said: Ok, to start, monk is a new 75 for me and I was looking to mess around with Chi Blast a little bit. From what I understand, mods are Mind and #of Boosts. Currently I have +50 mind for my build and with 11-12 boosts, connection lag varies, I do around 600 dmg. Is this normal? I have seen other monks do upwards of 1k dmg and was wondering if there were any other monks out there that could give me some pointers. Thanks for the input. You need 60 - 70 + MIND for HIT 1000 damage. And you need do all the boosts with AF Gloves. If you boost without AF gloves your damage will be "Too Weak" not sure where you're getting those numbers, only need 100 mnd to do about 1k dmg. I don't know which race has that low of mnd where you need +60 to hit 100 (aka 40 base) Without AF gloves you would need that mnd.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2009-10-09 22:27:14
Why would you not use AF gloves though? That number is completely irrelevant if that is the condition.
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By Midgardsormr.Sammitch 2009-10-12 04:13:52
Kungfuhustle said: Just for the love of Christ, please don't have a /p macro for your Boost. /p AHM CHARGIN MAH LAZOR! [<Boost>x12] /p SHOOP DA WOOP! [<Chi Blast>]
Ok, to start, monk is a new 75 for me and I was looking to mess around with Chi Blast a little bit. From what I understand, mods are Mind and #of Boosts. Currently I have +50 mind for my build and with 11-12 boosts, connection lag varies, I do around 600 dmg. Is this normal? I have seen other monks do upwards of 1k dmg and was wondering if there were any other monks out there that could give me some pointers. Thanks for the input.
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