Is It Time To Remove Under God From The Pledge?

I'd say it's working pretty well

I think Mil point blank said you were indoctrinated as are all adults who never question something.

I tried asking you questions an having that dialogue but you are more interested in telling me what I've said rather than even thinking beyond "No, I'm not nor was I ever indoctrinated in saying the pledge!"

Both your country and America is mostly populated by foreigners coming in and occupying the land from the original owners, the Native North Americans.

Both your country and America is mostly populated by foreigners coming in and occupying the land from the original owners, the Native North Americans.

Ironic to be screaming, "stop trying to change my country"

Because you've addressed nothing. You also make false assumptions (like saying I'm annoyed by your post even though that one was in response to another post, that I'm indoctrinated among other things) based on what I can only assume is some sort of bias. Just because someone does not ask a teacher does not mean they've never questioned their own stance on something which I addressed and you also ignored.

You also keep changing your definition of indoctrination to which its at now is hey if you didn't ask someone about something you're indoctrinated.

You've addressed absolutely nothing other than the fact that you believe it to be indoctrination. You've never even said why you think its bad or explained other than kids are told to say it at a young age so indoctrination. You have literally put forth 0 argument and instead of boldly insulting me like the hubby you do it in a round about way then blame me lol.

Try addressing one of the many things I've actually brought up and then maybe we can have a conversation unstead of you asking me specific questions... me answering you ignoring pretty much everything else then you telling me what I am.

Edit: On a personal level I could care less if they keep saying it, take the god out or make it so they can't say it in schools at all...

I don't just accept garbage stances that are backed up with nothing more than a weak quote from wiki and "This is the truth and if you don't believe it then you're indoctrinated!"

It's existance came into being to reignite some form of patriotism.

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine).[1] It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.[2] As such the term may be used pejoratively, often in the context of education, political opinions, theology or religious dogma. The term is closely linked to socialization; in common discourse, indoctrination is often associated with negative connotations, while socialization refers to cultural or educational learning

Anything that is repeated on a daily basis without explaniation, ever, is a problem to me especially when it starts young enough that children never question it because they've just always done it.

NO, IF U DONT LIKE IT GTFO OUT OF THE COUNTRY! i dont even live there and it makes me mad when foriegns wanna make it like their ***country. there is a reason u came to the country, leave it the *** alone stfu or gtfo

In 1919, 27 years after Bellamy’s Pledge made its debut in 1892, Washington became the first state to pass a law requiring schools to make a weekly recitation of it a mandatory part of their curriculum, thus adding an explicitly coercive element that intensified its paradoxical nature. The Jehovah’s Witnesses, who believed that government was a Satanic tool and the Pledge a salute to the Devil, were amongst the first to publicly recognize the contradiction inherent in a compulsory oath lauding individual liberty. In 1935, the group “embarked on a focused campaign against the Pledge,” with hundreds of Jehovah’s Witnesses schoolchildren choosing expulsion over participation in the Pledge. A lawsuit ensued, and in 1938, a federal judge ruled in their favor, noting that the “totalitarian idea of forcing all citizens into one common mold of thinking” was not necessary to ensure the country’s safety and also curtailed the freedom of those who opposed it on the basis of “sincere religious convictions.”

In 1940, however, the Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal of the case, and ultimately reversed the lower court’s original ruling by an 8 to 1 margin. National unity, it concluded, trumped individual liberty. In the wake of this decision, unified Americans tarred and feathered a Jehovah’s Witness in Wyoming, castrated another in Nebraska, and publicly beat others in Texas and Illinois as police and city officials watched.

Three years later, with the U.S. in the midst of war, the Supreme Court reversed its decision. Since then, recitation of the Pledge has not been mandatory, at least from the perspective of the highest court of the land. On occasion, though, there’s an outlier: In October 2010, a judge in Mississippi threw an attorney in jail for five hours after the attorney refused to recite the Pledge as directed.

Teacher: Why aren't you standing for the pledge?

Student: Well, I'm Canadian so.....