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By Phoenix.Rikudosennin 2014-04-07 08:19:01
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I'm just starting out as a Blu. There are a lot of spells I am missing, but every time I get the chance I go after the spells I research is needed for endgame. With that being said I am currently working on completely getting my af1 full set. I am wondering and my question is should I reforge the entire af1 set or should I mix and match with the af2? I am trying to fully gear my blue for endgame content. I just started playing about to be two months. Any and every tips and tricks for blue mage you know can and will be very helpful to me and my LinkShell. Thank you for your time and help.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-04-07 08:30:48
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Did you check out the Blu guide? Should cover all your Bluemage needs.
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By Pantafernando 2014-04-07 08:31:37
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Phoenix.Rikudosennin said: »
I'm just starting out as a Blu. There are a lot of spells I am missing, but every time I get the chance I go after the spells I research is needed for endgame. With that being said I am currently working on completely getting my af1 full set. I am wondering and my question is should I reforge the entire af1 set or should I mix and match with the af2? I am trying to fully gear my blue for endgame content. I just started playing about to be two months. Any and every tips and tricks for blue mage you know can and will be very helpful to me and my LinkShell. Thank you for your time and help.

Normally, there is no job that can use 5/5 of any set, be it af1 reforged+1, af2 reforged+1. There is too much overpowered pieces from others events like skirmish, delve, ark angels, that will figure in any optimal setup.

About setups, refer to the job guide, it is up to the current date.

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By Asura.Ivykyori 2014-04-07 08:36:56
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When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.
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By Pantafernando 2014-04-07 08:44:19
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Asura.Ivykyori said: »
When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.

If i remenber right, blu can learn the spell from wk naakuals. A reasonable way to get then instead waiting for leaders.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-04-07 08:49:00
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Depends on your playstyle. Get AF+1 body, feet for enhanced CA and Dart mods. Luhlaza+1 body is great (nq for now should be your goal) and Luhlaza hands. I'm a BLU lover by nature, so I could never say getting as much Af/rELIC AS possible is a bad idea, but I digress.

There are so many other situational (and largley better pieces of gear) for BLU. Like Buremte Gloves for ACC and Thaumas Body for TP. Mix and match is the best idea, but the guide will definitely reflect that. It would also be a good plan to acquire as much gear as you can for each slot or stat you are trying to enhance. A good rule of thumb is, work on your XxX set first, then when finished, start building another set. XxX can denote TP, casting, FC, Mattbns, anything really. Work on gear/spell-sets, not armor sets.
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By Asura.Ivykyori 2014-04-07 08:56:40
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Pantafernando said: »
Asura.Ivykyori said: »
When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.

If i remenber right, blu can learn the spell from wk naakuals. A reasonable way to get then instead waiting for leaders.

Do you remember which spells in particular? Because if I can, that'd be great. I was pushed into ls geo, so I rarely go to delve as blu.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 09:07:49
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Thanks for the fast response to my post. Requiescat I'm trying to get now just have to skill up my sword which is at 325. So from what Ivy posted I should just upgrade my af1 Body and Hands to IL 109 correct? CDC I'll have to find out how to unlock that weapon skill. Hopefully it isn't very long to unlock it. From the guide I almost have the Solo spells completed. Abyssea Procs I have all the yellows. I have no clue what is VW, but I'll do my research on that and to see how to unlock it. I'm trying to unlock each set I can one at a time. Epona's ring didn't drop for us, but I'll see if I can get my LS to help. I'm the leader, but I have friends that I have made over streaming on twitch that is willing to gear me the heck out, so we can do Deleve's.
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By Pantafernando 2014-04-07 09:14:22
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Asura.Ivykyori said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Asura.Ivykyori said: »
When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.

If i remenber right, blu can learn the spell from wk naakuals. A reasonable way to get then instead waiting for leaders.

Do you remember which spells in particular? Because if I can, that'd be great. I was pushed into ls geo, so I rarely go to delve as blu.

Achukka, tchakka and colkhab uses blistering roar, carcharian verve and droning whirlwind.
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By Asura.Ivykyori 2014-04-07 09:21:13
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Pantafernando said: »
Asura.Ivykyori said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Asura.Ivykyori said: »
When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.

If i remenber right, blu can learn the spell from wk naakuals. A reasonable way to get then instead waiting for leaders.

Do you remember which spells in particular? Because if I can, that'd be great. I was pushed into ls geo, so I rarely go to delve as blu.

Achukka, tchakka and colkhab uses blistering roar, carcharian verve and droning whirlwind.

You have just saved me so much time. Thanks! <3
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-04-07 09:30:26
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Asura.Ivykyori said: »
When it came to BLU, I set myself a goal where I had to get all my spells (still missing a few, but those are the ones from delve MB's and Aby NM's) and the only way I felt I could do that without getting overwhelmed is to not burn the job. Because trying to learn 150 spells all at once (not literally) at 99 would've turned me away from the job.

Anyways, if you can stand it, I would still get all the spells because while you will be using some way more than others, some combos make nice job traits that you may be interested in. Also, dunno how it is on Phoenix, but on my server, people still do VW, and BLU has 24 proc spells there alone. More often than not these days there will be like 1 BLU in the squad (and you just gotta pray to Altana that the proc is one you have set, especially if it's EV)

As for the gear, I think it's situational--I haven't finished my reforges yet, but I went for body and hands first. The head is the least useful of the bunch (can be replaced with several head pieces).

You may want to get Requiescat (bet I spelled this wrong, but it's 9:30am on a Monday morning, screw being right). It's a weapon skill that ignores defenses. So you know those pesky bosses that build up phys resistance? Yep. Requiescat does full damage. And it looks cool [/girly vanity squeal]

And CDC. Once again, Monday morning. I don't really want to try and spell that out. It's Chant du Cygne I think it's spelled. It's a BLU staple weapon skill.

Ummm...a very pimp BLU is probably gonna debunk everything I just said, which is fine by me, but simply put: enjoy the job for what it is (which you seem to be doing). Getting into endgame stuff may be hard at times (I was excluded in a lot of LS events at first), but the possibility is there.

Endgame BLU will use Requiescat for multiple reasons, but mainly because it deals non-elemental magic damage, not ignores defense. It has a pretty heavy attack penalty, so in low attack situations, Chant du Cygne will be the WS of choice. Any BLU attempting to do endgame content NEEDS CDC and Requiescat 5/5 and the gear to back them up.

@OP - Proth's guide will tell you everything you need to know about the logistics of the job, but you will need to learn to play the job correctly (as a DD) or your gear and spells won't matter and you won't be effective.

You'll also need to prove that you're not just another failblu, because just being a blu won't get you invited to anything besides VW or a worm party.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 09:51:08
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Yeah I was reading a post about Blu not getting a lot of endgame contents because of failing Blu's. I have a Blu who us geared up and knows what he is doing. He goes to Delve's as a Blu. He's like my personal teacher for learning how to play Blu. I'll do more research into the guide. Thanks for that link to that helpful guide. Question where is a good place to skill up swords at 325? Almost capped in Blue magic at 388. I love Blu more than Smn. Another question is the the weapon trial to get CDC I don't have to have Almace to learn it right? The trial would give me the sword needed to upgrade to get the CDC?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-04-07 09:58:33
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Just kill worms and ***until like 360 or so, then adoulin kill some mandys and then local reives. Should bring you to cap. Can even toss in food or sakura for additional support.

CDC you just need a 99 Brunello (WOE sword), which requires 30 Coin of Glory, 100 Devious Die, and 100 Liminal Residue. Can be completed in a day or so for a couple mil, or farmed solo.

Like I and many others have said before, BLU will not get many invites because of the stigma that BLU is subpar in endgame damage content, which is a complete lie. The truth is, BLU is above average, and if played right, can totally impress the battle with their buffs and debuffs, which will inevitably help everyone in the group. Its just that people refuse to see the potential that BLU has outside of simply swinging swords. But I digress again.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 10:00:56
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Thanks. I guess as fellow Blue mages that are trying to get better at learning our job and bringing it to the min/max we will have to show the world our powers.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 10:06:15
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I'm glad that I don't have to go through 200 quests to get this weapon skill. I'll quest the skill for the weapon tonight and unlock the ability to do VM. Thanks for the fantastic information about Blue mage and to learn how to min/max it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-04-07 10:09:19
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if you have ilvl swords, just skill up in ceizak on mandies and bunnies with trusts , they are lvl 100 and will take you to cap on all skills. if you have a few friends you can do some skirmish 1 and 2 for the gear you will need while capping out or do reives in t2 zones for your cornflower cape.

remember that blu offers a lot of utility, but the spells you set will be mostly for job traits. a lot of endgame blus don't even set a cure spell. i tend to go /war with at least dw3, triple attack, store tp, hp bonus, and maybe a relevant killer trait. you won't be doing much casting besides diffusion haste/def bonus, absolute terror, and the occasional rescue cure or erase if things get hairy.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 10:16:17
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I'm using /rdm with Magic Fruit always with me. I'm missing one spell until I'm able to get dw3 and da. I know there are a few traits I can set using the spells I have now. Tonight is going to be a skill up night. Looks like Kupipi, Sakura, and I have a date in Ceizak.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-04-07 10:19:12
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/rdm is good for farming spells or solo'ing, but if you show up to delve that way, you'll be proving the blu doubters right.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 10:29:16
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The Assimilator's Jubbah IL 109 or Luhlaza Jubbah IL 109. I'm currently working on getting the Assimilator's Bazubands IL 109.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-04-07 10:34:14
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Both are great pieces. Like I said, work on getting gear sets, not armor sets. Luhlaza body is great for TPing (if you dont have thaumas), or accuracy if you need it (beats the previous Manibozho Jerkin). Assimilators is for physical casting, especially your SC closers like QC, and spells like Dart due to the mods.

BLU is all about utility, Probably about 53/60 of my BLU points are pre-set every single time I use the job. Situation and party depending, I may opt to use more healing and buffing/curative spells, debuffing spells (frightful roar), MP efficient and management spells (magic hammer), or focus on damage mitigation (occultation and cocoon/diamondhide).

Oh yeah, I know. Diamondhide sucks.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Ninjaface 2014-04-07 10:35:09
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it depends on what you're doing. you might want both.
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By Pantafernando 2014-04-07 11:41:03
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There is one optimal place to skill from zero to cap: colonization reives.

Roots have ZERO evasion. And in some places, like ceizak, the mobs roam far from roots, so it allow legit afk skilling.

I started yesterday markmanship skilling (using autora addon). Zero skill, and lv60 xbow. Tema gear, rng necklace and 2 racc ring. Im now 100 ish because soemone keep killing the reive, but even with no skills or ilv gear, food, racc gear, i was capping acc in reives root.
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Roots have ZERO evasion

VERY interesting. Thanks for this.
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By Rikudousennin 2014-04-07 15:00:12
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Cool I'll work on the Assimilator's one first then the other one next. I will never show up to a group party as a /rdm. I know part wise it's /war.