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Breast Feeding
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-02-26 09:07:13
I'm not contending the medical aspects, but it would explain the strong reaction.
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By Jetackuu 2014-02-26 09:08:49
Masturbation is actually very healthy for a male's genitals.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-02-26 09:12:05
As a mother, I can see why she'd be mad. If my kid is hungry, a little titty isn't gonna kill anyone. Don't like? That's the gift of heads, they can turn away. Some people just don't want to turn to bottles so soon. However, covering up would have just been better for everyone's sanity in this case. At least that's what I'd do; planes get cold man. Don't need my ta-tas freezing over. Babies get hungry. Would you rather hear a baby cry for 10 minutes while mom finds a private spot (on a plane, nonetheless, and what if the bathroom is occupied?)? I have a 2.5 year old who throws fits for that long and it drives me up a *** wall. Food for thought. Don't take the child on the plane. That easy. Easier said than done. I had to move with my daughter half across the country last year. Driving was not an option, and even if it was, with a kid who was barely 2 at the time, it would be a lot more stressful than just taking a plane. In my case, she had already kicked the bottle habit, but she was still cranky being on a plane for 5 hours. Doubling (or even tripling) the travel time wouldn't help matters. Point is, less people would be "inconvenienced" by crying babies and exposed ta-tas, but traveling with a young child is stressful regardless of travel conditions.
I try my best to remain fair on this subject. But society has become obsessed with children. Catering to them. Building itself around them.
There was a time where having a screaming child in public was something you apologized for and were mildly embarassed. Not terribly so -- they are children -- but you were causing an inconvenience.
These days it seems like it's the other way around. If you're upset that you've got a screaming child kicking your seat on the airplane, you're the mean old troll. In fact, some parents -- please note I'm not saying all, but there are many -- will go so far as to get mad at you for being upset with their child. How dare you accuse their child of misbehavior or call their parenting skills into question?
My comment was made slightly off-the-cuff. I am not against children on airplanes or public places. And really, I can tolerate their misbehavior to a point. They're children. In the situation you described, it is essentially unavoidable. You did what you had to do.
But when parents attempt to make me the goat in their parental misdeeds, I get awfully defensive.
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By Asura.Ivykyori 2014-02-26 09:17:39
As a mother, I can see why she'd be mad. If my kid is hungry, a little titty isn't gonna kill anyone. Don't like? That's the gift of heads, they can turn away. Some people just don't want to turn to bottles so soon. However, covering up would have just been better for everyone's sanity in this case. At least that's what I'd do; planes get cold man. Don't need my ta-tas freezing over. Babies get hungry. Would you rather hear a baby cry for 10 minutes while mom finds a private spot (on a plane, nonetheless, and what if the bathroom is occupied?)? I have a 2.5 year old who throws fits for that long and it drives me up a *** wall. Food for thought. Don't take the child on the plane. That easy. Easier said than done. I had to move with my daughter half across the country last year. Driving was not an option, and even if it was, with a kid who was barely 2 at the time, it would be a lot more stressful than just taking a plane. In my case, she had already kicked the bottle habit, but she was still cranky being on a plane for 5 hours. Doubling (or even tripling) the travel time wouldn't help matters. Point is, less people would be "inconvenienced" by crying babies and exposed ta-tas, but traveling with a young child is stressful regardless of travel conditions.
I try my best to remain fair on this subjet. But society has become obsessed with children. Catering to them. Building itself around them.
There was a time where having a screaming child in public was something you apologized for and were mildly embarassed. Not terribly so -- they are children -- but you were causing an inconvenience.
These days it seems like it's the other way around. If you're upset that you've got a screaming child kicking your seat on the airplane, you're the mean old troll. In fact, some parents -- please note I'm not saying all, but there are many -- will go so far as to get mad at you for being upset with their child. How dare you accuse their child of misbehavior or call their parenting skills into question?
My comment was made slightly off-the-cuff. I am not against children on airplanes or public places. And really, I can tolerate their misbehavior to a point. They're children. In the situation you described, it is essentially unavoidable. You did what you had to do.
But when parents attempt to make me the goat in their parental misdeeds, I get awfully defensive.
Trust me, I felt horrible when she did flip out. However, I was lucky that those who were around us were understanding (and she even got fruit snacks from someone as well).
In the case of the kid who kicks the back of chairs...
I believe in discipline. However you discipline your kid is on you, but make sure it works. If you tell your kid to not kick the chair in front of them, and they still don't listen, you need a plan b because that clearly ain't working. I can't stand parents who let their kid run rampant in public places, lol.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:22:51
When I where a breast hat people give me odd looks.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:24:30
Masturbation is actually very healthy for a male's genitals.
Not only that but it makes a Tuesday a bit more enjoyable.
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:27:42
Not saying you should (you should) but hit up youtube for breastfeeding videos. I did it for educational reasons.
They are sharing their goods with everyone and they have no problem with it.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2014-02-26 09:40:26
Wow. So much hate in this post.
You'd be surprised at how indifferent I really am about this subject in particular. It's more my frustration at our society. This is actually a thing. This woman made the news because she was indignant about HAVING TO USE A BLANKET. This also made the news because this somehow constitutes news these days. Our society has foregone "walking it off" or "having respect for other human beings (not to mention a sense of modesty)" in favor of being grossly entitled and playing the victim. She asked ahead of time even.... Why *** ask if you're going to piss and moan about the answer?
While I agree with you that she should have been conscientious enough to use the blanket when offered, the bolded is kind of a ***comparison seeing as though that is purely sexual.
It was admittedly hyperbole. My mom used to breastfeed IN CHURCH. I wasn't too keen on it but I wouldn't have cussed her out if she was someone else (hell i might sneak a peek). My indignation was almost exclusively towards the "Mom said I can't stay the night after I asked and now I'm crying in my cheerios" attitude. You asked because you knew it wasn't likely so now you're gonna fuss about the response?
Anyhow: it's more just that i like to make a stink and this looked fresh and new compared to the "f jesus and f republicans" threads we get 40 times a day here.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:43:15
Any time we can talk about breasts in any manner. I'm for it.
I can't prove it but breasts have magical powers.
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By Shiva.Gib 2014-02-26 09:47:52
Tact, all I gotta say, nothing wrong with it, but use Tact.
Like a quote from a old "Married with Children" when Marcy told Al that breastfeeding was a natural thing to do and Al responded "Well so is Peeing, but you don't see me whipping it out and doing that in public!"
By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:49:45
Be like "excuse me maam your "goods" are offensive".
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-26 09:53:56
I'm not contending the medical aspects, but it would explain the strong reaction.
Admittedly, when I read the twenty-two months bit I kind of squirmed a little.
Incoming random tangent: And how in the Hell do some women manage that length in the US?!? No matter how much you try, pumping at work becomes an inconvenience because of time constraints, and you end up voiding those feeding/pumping times gradually (use it or lose it fashion). HOW?!? How do they do it?
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 09:55:59
That is nothing some women breast feed their kids till like five.
That is how Norman Bates got started.
I'm not saying breast feeding leads to being a serial killer but according to a movie it does.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-26 10:03:23
That is nothing some women breast feed their kids till like five.
Very well aware. Over a year-and-a-half still make me a little squeemish. Not sure why. I don't know how some ladies make it without completely converting to the pump after the sweetones start cutting teeth.
Mehhh...I probably shouldn't comment though. I wasn't able to keep up with it after going back to work, and completely dropped off at a little after five months.
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 10:07:19
Not to get too kinky but I've heard that women get some pleasure out of breastfeeding.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2014-02-26 10:09:19
Not to get too kinky but I've heard that women get some pleasure out of breastfeeding.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 10:10:28
Don't worry I won't post a video of it but I shall search.
Of all the kinky things on the internet breastfeeding is rather tame.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-26 10:15:48
As a mother, I can see why she'd be mad. If my kid is hungry, a little titty isn't gonna kill anyone. Don't like? That's the gift of heads, they can turn away. Some people just don't want to turn to bottles so soon. However, covering up would have just been better for everyone's sanity in this case. At least that's what I'd do; planes get cold man. Don't need my ta-tas freezing over. Babies get hungry. Would you rather hear a baby cry for 10 minutes while mom finds a private spot (on a plane, nonetheless, and what if the bathroom is occupied?)? I have a 2.5 year old who throws fits for that long and it drives me up a *** wall. Food for thought. Don't take the child on the plane. That easy. Easier said than done. I had to move with my daughter half across the country last year. Driving was not an option, and even if it was, with a kid who was barely 2 at the time, it would be a lot more stressful than just taking a plane. In my case, she had already kicked the bottle habit, but she was still cranky being on a plane for 5 hours. Doubling (or even tripling) the travel time wouldn't help matters. Point is, less people would be "inconvenienced" by crying babies and exposed ta-tas, but traveling with a young child is stressful regardless of travel conditions.
I try my best to remain fair on this subject. But society has become obsessed with children. Catering to them. Building itself around them.
There was a time where having a screaming child in public was something you apologized for and were mildly embarassed. Not terribly so -- they are children -- but you were causing an inconvenience.
These days it seems like it's the other way around. If you're upset that you've got a screaming child kicking your seat on the airplane, you're the mean old troll. In fact, some parents -- please note I'm not saying all, but there are many -- will go so far as to get mad at you for being upset with their child. How dare you accuse their child of misbehavior or call their parenting skills into question? That's so true.
I was never the kind of child to make noises and such, in part because of how I was, but also because I understood it would be shameful for my parents. I've always felt ashamed and apologised when my cousins would scream around, thought my aunt didn't care, she was the kind of people you mention.
I'll never understand these people.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-02-26 10:26:14
I find someone breastfeeding nearby a bit annoying, but not so much as to need to tell them to go away unless they're at my dinner table(to be fair pretty much everything that makes the smallest sound bothers me when I'm eating), just like I don't care about anything people do around me as long as it's harmless and not polluting my world. But yes, surely baby sucking >>> baby crying a million times.
I'm gonna start auto-felating in public. If you can actually do that I'm honestly impressed.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-26 10:31:45
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »I'll never understand these people. They're so easy to understand, though.
"The only thing I have ever done or will ever manage to do is maintain my genetic line for another generation. Cognizant of this fact but unwilling to ever admit it, even to myself, I will spend the rest of my life attempting to carve out entitlement and reward for myself and possibly my offspring on the basis of doing what almost every person on the planet can do. In order to achieve such a nonsensical goal, one that is on par with wanting to be paid for wiping after voiding my bowels, I will be as loud and obnoxious as possible since no one is really impressed that healthy but otherwise useless humans can procreate."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 10:40:48
Why can't we go back to the tribal days of Africa where all the women were naked all of the time?
well, so were the men, but we can pass a law stating that all men shall wear clothes and recommend, but not enforce women to do the same. If anyone complains, we can always say that clothes are a bother and we are promoting womanhood
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2014-02-26 10:43:35
Why can't we go back to the tribal days of Africa where all the women were naked all of the time?
well, so were the men, but we can pass a law stating that all men shall wear clothes and recommend, but not enforce women to do the same. If anyone complains, we can always say that clothes are a bother and we are promoting womanhood Sounds like we'd be Ferengi...
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By Asura.Escorian 2014-02-26 11:02:53
all the guys that saw that comment should stare at her every time she breast feeds and if she complains the men should just reply it's only a natural and beautiful thing.
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By Odin.Calipso 2014-02-26 11:03:30
Coming from a mom of two kids, I've met plenty of women who are totally gung-ho about their right to breastfeed and will whip it out in public wherever and however, and it honestly kinda annoys the heck out of me. It's not gonna kill you or your kid to cover up a little.
Like anything, courtesy is a two-way street. Seeing it is gonna make a lot of people uncomfortable on different levels, and as long as you're not being an *** about it there's nothing wrong with that. There's always gonna be those type of people who go about things completely brazenly because it's their "right" :/
Aside from not wanting to make other people uncomfortable, it quite honestly made me uncomfortable if I had to feed my kids in public or around people (even around close family), so I made sure to always carry a little baby blanket. Maybe it's just me, I'm pretty modest and generally dress pretty modestly, but the thought of a bunch of random people seeing my boobs freaked me the hell out. "Natural" or not.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 11:18:15
Not to get too kinky but I've heard that women get some pleasure out of breastfeeding. Why would you say this lol
It is true I read it online somewhere. The internet never lies.
By fonewear 2014-02-26 11:20:54
Why can't we go back to the tribal days of Africa where all the women were naked all of the time?
well, so were the men, but we can pass a law stating that all men shall wear clothes and recommend, but not enforce women to do the same. If anyone complains, we can always say that clothes are a bother and we are promoting womanhood
Because the evil clothing corporations would go out of business.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 11:25:32
You'd be surprised at how indifferent I really am about this subject in particular. It's more my frustration at our society. This is actually a thing. This woman made the news because she was indignant about HAVING TO USE A BLANKET. This also made the news because this somehow constitutes news these days. Our society has foregone "walking it off" or "having respect for other human beings (not to mention a sense of modesty)" in favor of being grossly entitled and playing the victim. She asked ahead of time even.... Why *** ask if you're going to piss and moan about the answer?
You must have read a different article from me.
She asked what the policy was as her 10 week old did not like a cover on its head and it won't take a bottle. She then asked to see the written policy since it is not published online. It looks like others who saw the conversation and were annoyed, but that happens when you handle customer service via twitter.
As for your modesty comment, I'm not even going to touch that.
As for news these days, I don't know what to tell you. Most news is not news, but this is more news worthy than twerking or Justin Bieber drag racing. I now know that I need to email airlines to find out their breastfeeding policy when I travel, something I might not have thought about before.
Very well aware. Over a year-and-a-half still make me a little squeemish. Not sure why. I don't know how some ladies make it without completely converting to the pump after the sweetones start cutting teeth.
Mehhh...I probably shouldn't comment though. I wasn't able to keep up with it after going back to work, and completely dropped off at a little after five months.
Yeah, don't think I will be breastfeeding after 6 months, if I'm able to do it that long.
However, the health benefits for the mom and baby are wonderful and each mom/couple have to make their own decisions on this topic.
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 11:29:09
The health benefits outweigh any creepy factor from some random guy seeing your nips in public.
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