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By fonewear 2014-02-17 08:43:42
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Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-02-17 09:03:14
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Asura.Ivykyori said: »
There are so many people working multiple minimum wage jobs, and still have problems paying the bills. And welfare? These families don't qualify, because according to the state, they make too much.

There are also a lot of people out there who aren't responsible with the money they do make. I mean, why pay utility bills and waste money on basic luxuries like say, a bed, when you could be blowing your income on an iPhone and the most expensive service plan you can find?
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-02-17 09:08:51
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fonewear said: »
Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

I tried that line on my wife, but it didn't work.
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 09:15:13
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fonewear said: »
Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

I tried that line on my wife, but it didn't work.

That is a deal breaker for me.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-17 09:34:37
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
fonewear said: »
Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

I tried that line on my wife, but it didn't work.

Clean babies smell like magic! You better watch out!
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 09:36:27
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
fonewear said: »
Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

I tried that line on my wife, but it didn't work.

Clean babies smell like magic! You better watch out!

Babies are trendy right now. Good fashion accessory.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-17 09:40:57
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fonewear said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
fonewear said: »
Well no one said you had to have kids. The idea that you can have kids doesn't mean you should.

I tried that line on my wife, but it didn't work.

Clean babies smell like magic! You better watch out!

Babies are trendy right now. Good fashion accessory.
Plus they are a tax write-off, better get lots while you can!
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 09:43:07
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And if you don't have morals you can sell them on the black market.

And if you want good wages work for the government. They don't do much and they get paid well.

I would gladly cross over to the dark side and work for the very thing I hate.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 09:52:25
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Plus they are a tax write-off, better get lots while you can!
Sad to think that's a reason why people have children.. but it happens. -_-
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 10:06:04
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Assuming people who use "I make minimum wage so I'll do a ***job" get fired and replaced with competent people, I see no drawbacks to an increase in minimum wage.
The problem isn't finding competent people, the problem is KEEPING them for a lot of those businesses.

Sadly the reason why I left my 10.65 / hr paying job for a lesser paying one was because of the management (by the way, McDonalds has a way for you to get higher in the company, and just being a store manager was pretty nice pay in itself, so it CAN be a career choice, just gotta work your way up). I kept getting screwed over because of poor scheduling / favoritism towards other workers that were awful.

There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

I honestly think anyone going into management needs to take a lot more MANAGEMENT classes and training than just "here go to this seminar for 1-2 days, congrats! You now have a piece of paper saying you know how a business works and how to treat your fellow underlings".

Example: The Target I work at will only hire management "if" you have a college degree. (This is the only store in the region that does this, btw) They hired a manager recently that was fresh out of college with no experience at all, and she's one of the worst people to work with. Doesn't realize that not giving breaks is, you know, against the law?

But hey, what do I know, not like I don't have experience or anything.. I'm just the underling.

And for those who might think I'm contradicting myself, there is a difference between taking management classes and just going to school, unless you are going for business management alone.

Education =/= experience.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-17 10:13:01
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!

EDIT: Or is that even applicable to food service?
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 10:15:37
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!
I really wanted to, but I just said "well it's nothing serious, so I'm ok.."

God, I should have done something. Silly me.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-17 10:19:11
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!
I really wanted to, but I just said "well it's nothing serious, so I'm ok.."

God, I should have done something. Silly me.

/cringe

Never say that aloud. If it the injury turned to be worse than perceived after seeking medical attention, the company won't be held accountable.

Lesson learned, I suppose.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 10:21:04
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!
I really wanted to, but I just said "well it's nothing serious, so I'm ok.."

God, I should have done something. Silly me.

/cringe

Never say that aloud. If it the injury turned to be worse than perceived after seeking medical attention, the company won't be held accountable.

Lesson learned, I suppose.
Yeap, that was it. Learned something that day. I learned that having a higher up that's younger than you are usually leads to bad things.. -.-
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 10:23:08
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Also funny thing when I went to the hospital, the doctor gave me a cream for the burns which worked almost immediately. I told him the cream made it much better, but he said "well here's this just in case the pain gets worse". And there was the prescription for vicadin/oxycontin/one of those high powerful drugs I can't remember which.

Always fun to know my doctor wants me hopped up on useless drugs.
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By Arziet 2014-02-17 10:29:43
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You think people should make 18 dollars working McD's?
I don't think people should be making less than a living wage.

Then again I also don't think companies should favor unskilled labor to automation.

But to answer your question: no I don't have a problem with companies paying their employees a living wage. Then again when it comes to McDonald's they should also give their employees a fixed schedule, but they don't do that either.

Is it really that much to ask for the companies to pay their employees so the government doesn't have to subsidize their workforce?

Or do you enjoy your taxes going to subsidize their profits? While they skirt a lot of their taxes because they're "job creators."

Agreed. especially with the last two statements.
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 10:30:38
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Also funny thing when I went to the hospital, the doctor gave me a cream for the burns which worked almost immediately. I told him the cream made it much better, but he said "well here's this just in case the pain gets worse". And there was the prescription for vicadin/oxycontin/one of those high powerful drugs I can't remember which.

Always fun to know my doctor wants me hopped up on useless drugs.

My bartender wants me hopped up on drugs too.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-02-17 10:38:00
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.
You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!
I really wanted to, but I just said "well it's nothing serious, so I'm ok.." God, I should have done something. Silly me.
/cringe Never say that aloud. If it the injury turned to be worse than perceived after seeking medical attention, the company won't be held accountable. Lesson learned, I suppose.
Yeap, that was it. Learned something that day. I learned that having a higher up that's younger than you are usually leads to bad things.. -.-
No. Just no. This type of thinking is what leads to a terrible promotion structure as well.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-17 10:40:51
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!

EDIT: Or is that even applicable to food service?
It is applicable to food service.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-02-17 10:41:54
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.

You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!

EDIT: Or is that even applicable to food service?
It is applicable to food service.

TY. Was looking that us as we speak type.

EDIT: Also, KN, why you gotta be so KN-y? Slavery, just run? :/
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 10:47:59
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I have people skills! What the hell is wrong with you people!
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-17 10:51:47
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Doesn't realize that not giving breaks is, you know, against the law?
You sure of that? I thought this same thing, too, but there are no federally mandated break times (there is a requirement for a 30-minute unpaid lunch) and most states don't have them, either.

Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Always fun to know my doctor wants me hopped up on useless drugs.
The joys of MDs. I sometimes wonder if the current problem in the streets with Percocet and Oxycontin isn't deliberately manufactured by physicians and drug companies.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-17 10:53:11
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Doesn't realize that not giving breaks is, you know, against the law?
You sure of that? I thought this same thing, too, but there are no federally mandated break times (there is a requirement for a 30-minute unpaid lunch) and most states don't have them, either.

Each state has different laws. They also have different laws between minors (or to a certain age) and adults for breaks.

Edit: also sometimes industry differences in breaks. But if Target has a company break policy (which they probably do) then that manager would have been in violation of that anyways.
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 10:55:01
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Minors are only allowed to work a certain number of hours. Normally.
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By Ragnarok.Yatenkou 2014-02-17 11:00:17
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fonewear said: »
Minors are only allowed to work a certain number of hours. Normally.

lol....normally.

That doesn't stop McDonalds from working a minor 12 hours a day 5 times a week, stupid *** ran me ragged.
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By fonewear 2014-02-17 11:01:30
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fonewear said: »
Minors are only allowed to work a certain number of hours. Normally.

lol....normally.

That doesn't stop McDonalds from working a minor 12 hours a day 5 times a week, stupid *** ran me ragged.

Yea like I said normally. I worked in retail before I had to work till like 3 am some nights for big sales.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-02-17 11:02:43
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
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Doesn't realize that not giving breaks is, you know, against the law?
You sure of that? I thought this same thing, too, but there are no federally mandated break times (there is a requirement for a 30-minute unpaid lunch) and most states don't have them, either.

Each state has different laws. They also have different laws between minors (or to a certain age) and adults for breaks.

Edit: also sometimes industry differences in breaks. But if Target has a company break policy (which they probably do) then that manager would have been in violation of that anyways.

In South Carolina, companies are required to give their employees a lunch break of at least 30 minutes only if they work 6 hours or more in one shift. The company I work for is very careful with this law - employees can actually be written up if they clock in even 1 minute too early at the end of their lunch breaks.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-02-17 11:05:59
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fonewear said: »
Minors are only allowed to work a certain number of hours. Normally.
lol....normally. That doesn't stop McDonalds from working a minor 12 hours a day 5 times a week, stupid *** ran me ragged.
Not only do I find this unbelievable with McDs paying people that much overtime... it's illegal to keep a minor that late and if you're working 12 hour days 5 days a week you're missing quite a bit of school or getting no sleep. In any case It's illegal and I'm surprised the IRS didn't come back at you or the store for those practices unless they were paying you under the table or something.

Edit: I worked at toys r us for a couple years in HS and they had to boot me out before 11 until I was 18. Store was always closed by then but that's when we did all of our clean up.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 11:06:44
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
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There was a girl that pretty much screamed throughout the whole store one day pissed off and she didn't even get written up, yet there was one day when I got burned at work and it was an inconvenience to get someone to come in until I could go to the hospital. I dealt with burns for a good 2 hours until someone showed up.
You could have hung them high for that. Know your OSHA laws and regulations. That's deplorable!
I really wanted to, but I just said "well it's nothing serious, so I'm ok.." God, I should have done something. Silly me.
/cringe Never say that aloud. If it the injury turned to be worse than perceived after seeking medical attention, the company won't be held accountable. Lesson learned, I suppose.
Yeap, that was it. Learned something that day. I learned that having a higher up that's younger than you are usually leads to bad things.. -.-
No. Just no. This type of thinking is what leads to a terrible promotion structure as well.
Well, maybe if I had a superior that was younger than me that did their job correctly I wouldn't say that.

Every boss I'VE had that has been younger than me has been that way.

I. Me. I'm not saying this about everyone else, just based on what I've been through.

I personally don't have a problem with a younger boss and would like to encourage it, but with what I (not only me, but other co-workers I've had as well) have been through, that hope grows more and more dim.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-17 11:09:56
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Shiva.Onorgul said: »
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Doesn't realize that not giving breaks is, you know, against the law?
You sure of that? I thought this same thing, too, but there are no federally mandated break times (there is a requirement for a 30-minute unpaid lunch) and most states don't have them, either.
Depending on the work laws, yes, they have to give you breaks/lunches depending on how many hours you work.

The only way to bypass it is if you sign a waiver before you get employed at an establishment, waiving your break/lunch rights.
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