Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

If this would help, I've had this info for a while, but kept to myself while I finished the rest of the collection (I was making a spreadsheet of DEF values, resist rank values etc but it's still Work in progress).

For a rough estimate in Sheol C, you're looking at 1300-1350 DEF for floor 4 mobs, it varies, but it's a rough area to go by. (maybe aim for 5500+ Attack for 2 handers to utilise any PDL if no DEF down is applied)

In Limbus it's roughly 1260 DEF the highest value I've seen (Beetles in Apollyon), on 130. And around 1340 to 1370 DEF on 135. For the 119 I think they were around 970 DEF or something, trying to go by memory for the 119, but it's around there.

(The DEF values I provided were the highest value I could find in each content as of right now, some mob types have lower, but I figured the highest one would be more beneficial.)

In v25s, we can use the Arebati thread that lists his DEF value somewhere around 2695 The rest of the V25s (T3s) have quite similar, varying by +/- 200 DEF depending on the mob (I don't have exact values off hand, sorry)

I hope this is remotely helpful, most of the values are rounded up and not 100% precise due to that, but it's a general ballpark to look at.

Here ya go, some (mostly accurate?) ideas of how much PDL you can take advantage of, depending on your buffs and the enemy's defense. Now all you need to do is determine the DEF of the monster you're fighting and you can PDL to your heart's content.

Notes:
All Chaos rolls were +8 with Crooked and I rolled an 11.
All songs were with max potency
All song sets included HMarch
Non-SV songs didn't include any Marcato
This assumes you're not using Aria, so include that in your "how much PDL can I use" determination
Idris was included for all Furies and assumed for all frailties
No GEO potency reduction included
You can copy the sheet and change the SAM attack values as you see fit. This was done with a St4 Kusanagi and my TP/WS sets.
For the DEF down sheets, the DEF value on the left reflects the base DEF (1k -> 2700), with the debuffs listed on the sheet applied.

Yes to both, absolutely, but Cornelia also has +10 Acc, inferior but it does have some.
Furthermore there's hardly any relevant multihit WS for SAM, since we're discussing it for this job and not in general.

It's 20wsacc. English description is wrong.

Protip I never see anyone mention:
Change Tachi: Kaiten/Mumei's boring animation to Tachi: Gekko's cool animation.

Instructions unclear, changing all Great Katana WS animations to Tachi: Rana's cool animation.

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Wonder how long this is going to take?
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Cheer:_Wyvern

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Assuming you have nothing at all now.
Around 10 weeks for each piece, so ~6 months of doing both zones 5 times each week. It can be slightly faster with that extra chest from NMs points, but if its only 1 random chest per month, then it will be like 1 week faster.

Hands and Feet are interesting for sure. The lack of STP is disappointing. PDL and Crit aren't doing much of anything with SAM's TP/WS split. However, QA is similar to a Zanhasso proc.

Lehko's in terrible for SAM. (and every job IMO)

I would do Hands first then Feet. Feet compete with Sakonji sune-ate +4 and Ryuo Sune-Ate +1.

The AF/relic +4s have a lot of storetp, I think they're all probably pretty close.

Head too, dropping a whopping 12 storetp for QA+4(?).

I’m currently using:

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I’ve been working on - 125 stp to 4 hit, with 35 coming from merits and traits.Is the 4 hit what most Sam’s should be aiming for? (I’m actually just short with my current TP / WS sets due to missing some key upgrades, like +1 or +2 earring and moonlight nadowa)

Alabaster earring is going to take me forever to get to the stp stage but when it does, imagine its best in slot to TP?

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Don’t ask about the helm ._. I should sort mpacka .

Moar storetp is moar bettar. x-hit does not matter.

You'll normally have sam roll in any case with its variable storetp+.

Upgrade empy for an easy upgrade and your choice of feet.

So as an up-and-coming SAM (just hit the 1125 JP gift), here's my current TP set, I was looking for some advice on what I should focus on as far as improvement.

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I currently just run Hachimonji and Shining One as weapons (and have a Malignance Pole if I need blunt damage).

As far as JSE goes, I have:
Wakido hands and legs +4, all others +2.
Sakonji all +3
Kasuga hat and feet +1, body legs and hands +2

Try and get the 10k muffins to +2 empy head, use the empy +2 body, might as well use the wakido hands and legs until you get empy legs +3 for more acc.

Priority wise:

* Empy body +2/+3
* Empy head +2/+3
* Relic feet +4
* Two new earrings. Dedition/alabaster, dedition/kasuga, alabaster/kasuga etc.
* Ring to replace petrov. Chirich or ilabrat.
* Moonlight nodowa. JSE+2 also an option and used for WS too.

Just looking at gear. You'd want to use shining until you get a Masa, Doji or stage 4 prime.

I don't get to do Sortie very much, but getting the head to +2 is my next goal, yes.


I'm working on the relic feet, Limbus just takes time. I have Empy Body +2.

As far as earrings go, I have base Alabaster and I have Dediton, I'll change to those. Kasuga I only have a base earring with Acc/MAcc+7 as the augments.

For rings, I have Ilabrat and Regal available, as well as Ephramad's.

I don't have the gil for a Moonlight Nodawa, even if there was one available, same with the +2 neck. Is a +1 an acceptable placeholder, or should I stick with the Moonbeam?

I'm currently working on Masamune, I'm about 300 HMPs from the next stage, which is where most of my gil will be going now that I have Relic +3 complete.

As long as you don't spend gil augmenting it, of course the +1 is fine. An upgrade is an upgrade, later when have more gil to burn.

The jse neck is for ws, I'd stick with moonbeam for tp though moonbeam/jse +1 are both probably very close.

I could be wrong, but unless specifically geared for, Hachimonji is a meme GKT. Ichigohitofuri's Zanshin proc is going to give you significantly higher TP gain and your not limiting your STP with a fixed delay either. I used to use that GKT before making Masamune and it absolutely ripped, long ago pre Nyame.

Hachi's not that terrible, but you have to build around it which can lead to issues since its not at all hard to get over 100 STP on SAM with a basic COR roll which removes zanshin as an option. Ichigo's a very effective and basically free gkt that still pulls its weight even after later more damaging gkts came out.

Also SAM has no staff skill, nor is it on malignance pole, maybe misread SMN as SAM but jobs basically only on slash and pierce weapons

Out of pure curiosity, did anybody ever math out how better would SAM's DPS be if Kusanagi S5 had STP+10 instead of DA+10? Or even nothing in place of DA+10.

I'm of course assuming a full Hassanshin/Ikishoten build, where DAs procs are a small DPS loss (since they get calculated before Hassanshin) whereas TAs are not so bad and QAs are good.

Trying to evaluate if the loss is quite irrelevant or bigger than I thought.

new_set = {
main="Kusanagi",
sub="Utu Grip",
ranged="Empty",
ammo="Aurgelmir Orb +1",
head="Kasuga Kabuto +3",
neck="Moonlight Nodowa",
ear1="Dedition Earring",
ear2="Kasuga Earring +1",
body="Kasuga Domaru +3",
hands="Clemency Kote",
ring1="Chirich Ring +1",
ring2="Niqmaddu Ring",
back="Takaha Mantle",
waist="Sweordfaetels +1",
legs="Kasuga Haidate +3",
feet="Ryuo Sune-ate +1",
}

1.847s

Without DA 1.851s
With 10stp 1.796s

This is with lucky Samurai roll

Weeell, smaller difference than I expected.
Thanks Simon!

SAM gets TP so fast its hard for me to tell the difference between my Zanhasso build and my MA build.

The 10da and 2hand acc cap pair well together for SAM. I'd rather hit a mob for a low value and keep my SC going than have a miss.

No matter how much faster it TPs, no one should be using stinky feet in any set in this day and age. Not even in sims.

I guess I agree.

new_set = {
main="Kusanagi",
sub="Utu Grip",
ranged="Empty",
ammo="Aurgelmir Orb +1",
head="Kasuga Kabuto +3",
neck="Moonlight Nodowa",
ear1="Dedition Earring",
ear2="Kasuga Earring +1",
body="Kasuga Domaru +3",
hands="Clemency Kote",
ring1="Chirich Ring +1",
ring2="Niqmaddu Ring",
back="Takaha Mantle",
waist="Sweordfaetels +1",
legs="Kasuga Haidate +3",
feet="Clem. Sune-ate",
}

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I agree and Clemency look like a wonderful piece to replace them, but you can't magically snap your fingers and find yourself with a R30 clemency today.

Gonna take a while, and what would you use in the meantime?

I use relic +4 in a normal TP set and mpaca's boots in a pdt/dt set.

Most likely relic +4 and clemency are pretty close, TP wise.

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