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Bushido - The Way of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0
By Taint 2025-07-16 13:13:10
If SAM was on Prime Bow it would have been epic.
Unfortunately Namas doesn’t scale and Ambu PA is very solid for piercing. Bow SAM is pretty dead.
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-07-16 13:25:06
Humor me, Mogster! Show me all SAM with Bow can be!
Surely it can emulate the Ullr PLD :P
By Nariont 2025-07-16 13:49:17
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-16 14:02:50
It's fun the snapshot set is a little annoying
I think we would be in a very different place if Sam prime bow was a thing
But both bows are really just for fun unless you need something for a ranged sc but not dmg
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By Bismarck.Feanorsof 2025-07-16 17:35:12
Could someone explain to me how Zanshin and Zanhasso works?
My undestsnding is for Zanshin (Missed hits) we get 50% from Traits/JP and a further 5% from merits.
To calculate my Zanhasso % chance, I take Zanshin from Traits/JP/Merits, add this to gear and divide by 4?
In my case I get 55 + 33 / 4 = 22% Zanhasso rate?
I had a look at the simulator code and I see a base rate of Zanhasso as 35% and I cannot understand where it gets from:
I assume this 97% under multi attack is referring to regular Zanshin?
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-16 18:03:21
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By Nariont 2025-07-16 18:15:10
Gifts raise the upper limit by 10% total
By Dodik 2025-07-17 05:52:35
By SimonSes 2025-07-17 06:38:43
So your SAM couldn't handle regrets and started using steroids to feel better? :)
By Dodik 2025-07-17 06:52:50
My only regret is wasting time augmenting trash gear.
And discussing viable gear options online.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-17 08:40:51
This post took a lot of effort shame you didn't hit the next button (-/?) on the gear, maybe you would see the true value.
By Felgarr 2025-07-17 08:46:09
How to use Ryuo Sune-Ate.
What do you recommend instead for TP? I get your point, but what's the specific pieces are you advocating for?
By Dodik 2025-07-17 08:56:28
What do you recommend instead for TP?
Probably been lost within pages of " 99% of Sams wear this one trick pair of boots" but one of two options:
Current standard TP set - this was suggested by Simon and I really like it:
https://www.ffxiah.com/item/24109/sakonji-sune-ate-4
If you need more pdt/mdb for some reason:
https://www.ffxiah.com/item/23786/mpacas-boots
you didn't hit the next button (-/?) on the gear, maybe you would see the true value.
You could enlighten me, as if I don't know what augments are and need them explained to me along with what magic accuracy and magic evasion do.
But nah don't bother.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-17 09:23:10
Ah but it's not the augments
It's not the magic evasion
You must not be seeing the "occasionally attacks twice"
It's clearly cut off in your pictures
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-17 09:27:07
The OAT during zanshin is a busted trait back when Ichigohitofuri GKT was a thing prior to me making Masamune/Doji. I used to wreck stuff with it because it made over TPing effortless. The TP gain is incredible and the isn't a close second. If you're worried about tankiness on Sam, toggle out of it, or use something beefier. But there's no debate, that zanshin oat stat will always be an amazing unique trait for Sam TP gain.
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By Dodik 2025-07-17 09:28:15
I'm seeing what you're seeing.
I just don't care for it.
I trust that is clear now.
By SimonSes 2025-07-17 10:05:41
The OAT during zanshin is a busted trait back when Ichigohitofuri GKT was a thing prior to me making Masamune/Doji. I used to wreck stuff with it because it made over TPing effortless. The TP gain is incredible and the isn't a close second. If you're worried about tankiness on Sam, toggle out of it, or use something beefier. But there's no debate, that zanshin oat stat will always be an amazing unique trait for Sam TP gain.
I think you overrate it by a lot. It's 11% on 35% of your rounds, so it will activate like once per ~26 rounds. Im away from pc now, so I can't properly calculate it, but I think it's not better than for example 3%QA, so it's good, but surely not gamebreaking.
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By Dodik 2025-07-17 10:09:44
Less than that, it's 11% of 35% of your rounds that don't already have a QA, TA or DA proc.
Your total zanhasso proc is less than 35% because you have other forms of MA that take priority.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-17 10:52:03
Less than that, it's 11% of 35% of your rounds that don't already have a QA, TA or DA proc.
Your total zanhasso proc is less than 35% because you have other forms of MA that take priority.
This is why most people don't build QA, TA, or DA in their sets. They typically have 3 QA, 4 TA, and 0 DA, so...it's not very relevant. Yeah, it's not 35%, it's 32.6%, so ~3.6% of attack rounds will give ABSURD TP from two Zanshin swings. Getting a 4% chance to ***out mass amounts of TP is...a pretty good stat for a piece of armor.
Also there aren't a whole lot of people running around with 3% QA feet, and if you want to advocate for 3% QA then you're advocating for another piece of gear with similarly dogshit meva so IDK exactly what the point is here...
Finally: Nobody is advocating for putting this stuff in your endgame, "fighting dangerous enemies" sets. This is for fighting weak ***. Not everything in the game murders you with a single TP move, and most mobs don't have amnesia or terror, so IDK why you're getting your panties twisted about being dead or paralyzed all the time. Most people have more than one engaged set and many of them even have a brain where they can switch between them for appropriate situations.
By SimonSes 2025-07-17 10:59:09
Less than that, it's 11% of 35% of your rounds that don't already have a QA, TA or DA proc.
Your total zanhasso proc is less than 35% because you have other forms of MA that take priority.
Well in Masamune set I don't have any MA. It's true for Kusanagi though.
By Dodik 2025-07-17 11:02:47
That's funny, because I am seeing a 7-10% DA that cannot be taken off right..
Here.. http://www.ffxiah.com/item/21985/
And here.. http://www.ffxiah.com/item/21986/
You already have 3% QA from niqmaddu.
Finally - I am not advocating everyone should use one TP set for every situation ever.
I am advocating for not using either Escha, nor Kenda/Su3 armor in TP sets as a general rule. Yes, regardless the opposition.
Meaning that is a preference that I am advocating. You don't have to like it. That's fine. As I don't have to like any gear anyone else advocates for.
Have said it before, advocating that " 99.999999% of Sams should use this one piece of gear" leads to " use this TP set 100% of the time then wonder why you're amnesiaed and/or dead because you blindly follow TP sets on the internet without using your brain".
Sams that insist on Tate hands and Ryuou feet are no better than Wars and Drks that insist on Odin bodies and ambu frakking heads while having access to Sakpata.
Pretty sad, really.
I guess I fight different mobs than you do because every mob I fight has TP moves I would rather not land and does enough damage that I care about having 30 more DEF.
By Taint 2025-07-17 11:45:32
I think most of us agree with you.
Where we don't agree is which content does the meva/dt matter. We all have hybrid and DT toggles if needed.
Odyssey v25 are a great example of needing max meva/DT. I am not sure where else you would feel the need to stack more than provided in the "standard" TP sets.
By Dodik 2025-07-17 11:55:41
Odyssey v25 are a great example of needing max meva/DT. I am not sure where else you would feel the need to stack more than provided in the "standard" TP sets.
So it's more that I think the standard TP set should be pretty tanky, and then add more Meva/MDB on top of that already very tanky TP set. I've explained my reasonings, won't go into it again.
Specifically, other than AF/Relic+4 hands/feet, there's mpaca for more PDT/mdb and Nyame for more meva/DT.
Odyssey v25.. I am honestly struggling to find a fight Sam would be good at. So idk what fight that would be. Maybe you have a different experience you would like to share.
I'd rather take my War to a v25 fight, if I were to go as DD, than Sam.
The "does more meva/dt matter in this content" argument goes both ways.
Does 11% of a 35% chance to attack twice matter in content where having more meva/dt does not?
I am struggling to find content where I wish I had less meva/dt/def tbh.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-17 11:59:11
I mean, I'd rather that no mobs' TP moves ever hit me, but honestly in 99% of content what's going to happen if a mob hits you with a TP move? You're going to take some damage then be cured back to full HP and never be at any risk of dying, for even a second.
If the mob hits you with HP down, poison, etc. it will not matter at all. It won't affect your DPS or put you at risk of dying.
The chances of 30 DEF being the difference between living and dying is so close to 0 as to be indistinguishable from it.
I'm also curious to know which mobs you are fighting that you feel the need to evade all of their TP moves, because frankly I'd say the vast majority of enemies in FFXI are not worth even considering your max HP, DEF, or meva on SAM. For those where it does matter...you toggle on meva. It doesn't make sense, in my opinion, to wear suboptimal gear to fight Locus bats because you have a vendetta against a pair of boots and a hardon for DEF. I don't think you're going to die to Rancibus because you have 50 fewer HP (or whatever the number is). Kin isn't going to chunk you to death from 100% HP when you're wearing the sets being discussed.
If some idiot puts that set on for a V25 Kalunga then IDK what to tell you, that's a skill issue not an issue with the guide.
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By Dodik 2025-07-17 12:06:27
Again, both ways.
Locus bat dies in 2 TP moves in less than 5sec regardless if you wear Nyame hands/feet or any other gear. Buffs make that happen not 11% more attacks on zanhasso.
Similarly, Omen fights can be done in 100% ambu gear. Me wearing mpaca instead of tatena/ryou won't make the fight any slower. Sam shits TP for laughs regardless. Those fights are already easy.
You're arguing "risk amnesia on Kin for an extra 11% DA zanhasso". For what. So you can kill Kin 30sec faster? And 30sec is very generous.
Assuming you don't get amnesiaed wearing it. If you do happen to resist amnesia/para/whatever then the higher meva set is also your highest dps set.
This makes no sense to me.
In fact Omen bosses is a good example where you want a somewhat more meva heavy TP set that isn't full Nyame or uses nyame pieces.
Typically on Sam I am tanking. Even with a tank. My sets are geared for me taking majority of dmg. YMMV.
By Taint 2025-07-17 12:30:30
So v25 and Omen bosses. I'm good with that.
SAM was great for Mboze v25 KI1 since you asked for an example.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-17 12:45:47
In fact Omen bosses is a good example where you want a somewhat more meva heavy TP set that isn't full Nyame or uses nyame pieces.
Ok, this is a fun example. You support mpaca's boots, right? How many amnesias do you think you will avoid in an average Kin fight based solely on the extra 16 meva you get from switching ryou feet for mpaca's feet? I would personally say it's probably 0.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-17 12:50:27
How much more would you avoid if you just use react with a magic eva set higher than you would possibly ever wear fulltime
Alot
By Dodik 2025-07-17 13:12:58
SAM was great for Mboze v25 KI1 since you asked for an example.
Really? I have vague memory of trying that and it was kinda poor.
First KI in a 2KI fight?
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »How many amnesias do you think you will avoid in an average Kin fight based solely on the extra 16 meva you get from switching ryou feet for mpaca's feet? I would personally say it's probably 0.
How many seconds do you think you will kill Kin faster in if you use Ryuou's feet instead of Mpaca.
I would personally say it's less than 10sec.
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