Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

This is pretty much the standard, sometimes i even throw in gotes too lol.

Content level 130 is a joke. You don't need to gear for ***in limbus. Sortie you can get away with 1-2 pieces without issue. Higher odyssey yes you will die

I agree 130 Limbus is a joke... Vs 1-3 mobs. I can survive in my normal TP set with trusts healing, which isn't any more than 20pdt. when I pull 5-6, it's not a joke and I'll drop quick if I'm not in the proper MDT set. Trusts can only heal but so fast to keep you alive. With real WHM/party, wear whatever you want, that's between y'all two. Wearing a couple of glassy pieces won't instantly get you killed, but eating a disgusting TP move/status effect from something because you chose to wear something not evasive, sucks. That alone makes using some pieces with less magic evasion less desirable.

You do know you can change gear right?
Do you guys not toggle to tankier sets on the fly? On mob nuke or wind up for a physical? You know third eye

I keep a pdt mdt meva max set on hotkey

Running through a pack of mobs to pull them is what pdt then hybrid sets are for

Never taken Ryou off in Limbus or Sortie and why do you need MEVA for segment farming?

Do you leave your house in a bubble suit or something?

Honestly the "Limbus - no at 130" has to be a joke lol, that's like saying don't wear it on reisenjima trash mobs.

Taint pretty much has it right, you're not in danger of dying or even getting enfeebled out of fights on anything but V20/25s wearing standard emp+3/ryou feet.

The enfeebles that land in sortie either don't impact your dps or you cant resist anyways, the only exception being Triboulex fetters if you aren't having a tank soak them all but even then they don't actually enfeeble if he is stunned(not to mention barfira from whm is enough to resist the amensia more often than not) which is very easy to do with polearm.

Nor are you going to become an actual liability for your healer.

quick mechanics questions:
at what point does +WSD on a head piece outstrip the +250 TP bonus on mpaca head? is there such a point?

most scaling WS have such scaling that the general answer is; when you cant use that excess TP bonus. I'm sure there's exceptions but im not aware of any off-hand

Yeah when you have 3k

You shouldn't be using mpaca or moonshade at 3k if people needed a psa

hitting the Ftp increase is generally better then anything else, if you doing samurai right you should be be 2ktp after ws consistently, you just need to do a include of TP threshold to change out mpaca head and moonshade earring as your tp is closer to 3k tp

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he was asking something like "how much WSD would a Head piece need to be better than Mpaca all of the times?"

I don't know the answer of course, altough it should be easy to test on a SAM spreadsheed I suppose, but I'm lazy.
Mpaca doesn't only have TP+200 btw, that's clearly its major damage contributor for SAM WSs but it also sports a lot of acc, a lot of att, TA+5% and DA+5% and, last but not least, higher than usual STR value, which is the major WS Mod for SAM WSs.

Nyame piece has similar stats, but they're inferior to Mpaca. And the WSD+12, appearently, isn't enough to compensate for slightly inferior stats and, obviously, for the lack of TP+200.

I'm sure there's a threshold where enough WSD would be better than TP+200, I just have no clue where lol

As a career Samurai myself, I couldn't help but both laugh and die a little inside when I saw this. I've been SAM with Ryou +1 on all the content you are saying "*** no" on, and never had any issues at all

Makes me think it's the players, not the gear.

I've said I don't use those feet at all, so you can just assume "No" to everything since I don't use them.

Call it "difference in play style" or "guy being a total weirdo about this for some reason", doesn't matter.

They funny thing is, I have never seen any Samurai actually use a Ryou Sune-Ate +1.

This is generally a complex question and math is different for each WS on every TP threshold. For example going from 1500 to 1700 on Savage blade is worth more than going from 2000 to 2200. and from 1300 to 1500 worth more than from 1500 to 1700.

Then it also matters how much WSD you already have.

TL;DR You would need to calculate it individually for each WS, on each TP threshold for specific WS set.

I mean how often do you check a sam that's fighting something? I've used mine in all content sense i obtained them.

I always TP in ryou+1

Whoa whoa
Who is /checking people without asking for permission first?!?

Related question to all this: What do people use for TP sets in the hands slot?

I'm just starting to break into some of the higher tier content and I'm currently using the Tatenashi hands for the sweet sweet Zanhasso but I'm feeling more fragile and wondering if there is something that is considered better these days?

Tatenashi, Kenda+1, Mpaca, nyame (even path B if you need to be extra tanky) Personally prefer Kenda+1.

I used Tatenashi hands and feet

It sure is a complex question, but we're in the SAM thread so of course he was asking about SAM.

Considering on Hybrid you are most likely gonna use Nyame and not Mpaca and considering that the most relevant WS are Fudo and Prime, I'd say it's a pretty safe assumption he wanted to know about those.

I mean, it could be nice to know for Kasha, Gekko and Shoha too, but those are used mostly for SC purposes rather than for pure damage itself.

Fudo and Mumei continue to scale well all the way to 3000tp.

Primes seem to have a linear growth pattern across the board and Fudo isn't far off with a slightly steeper growth from 2000-3000. (3.75-5.75-8.0)

FTP is much stronger than WSdmg in the calculation esp. at current WSdmg levels.

33str vs 26
30dex vs 25
3 ta vs 0
5 da vs 5 da
70 att vs 65 att
200tp vs 11 wsdmg

I'd swap at the last possible second. 2800tp +/- Moonshade.

Kasha, Fudo and Shoha
I still get plenty of mileage out those, to your point especially when used to continue skillchains
Kasuga feet and stinger helm showed up in a lot of my sims for the pdl with cor and brd buffs rdm debuff

This statement is kinda funny, because Jinpu is one of the few WSs that is very relevant for Mpaca vs Nyame, because Mpaca is better at low TP thresholds and Nyame at higher, but it's more than simple TP bonus vs WSD, because 3%TA and 30mab are relevant too for Jinpu.

Anyway I made something simple like this..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YJsJ0f4JTUDQb4sgyvUxBxUTLRxVtFP39Tn2KsQiTqk/edit?usp=sharing (to edit, you need to make a copy by clicking "File" -> "Make a Copy")

Realistically you can proc some DA or even TA, making WSD worth even less, but if you want more complex comparison just use sim.

EDIT: Added Shoha

So I have been low maning segments and as usual I am looking to squeeze blood out of a rock when I can't play

My current approach to pdt was just slap it all on, but after thinking back to some blu mage and ninja experience it was pretty easy to cap evasion in sheol c

I am wondering if Sam can do the aame
Blue is C and Sam is B skill

While things are working now... It's still scary waiting for horde to go off

What would my fellow min and maxers look at?
Adamantite looks great for more defense loss of a few evasion that could be made up in other slots
Potential gains to be made using a few null pieces over some DT like moon cape, Moogle belt
Loricate might not be worth the swap for bathy if DT is not capped
Rings earrings ammo not really sure

And there's always food like salt ramen or popotos

I wonder if anyone even used the tool I provided, or people just ask questions to ask questions XD

Maybe you should add a login campaign to drive engagement.

I went the def route for tanking crowds on Sam.

Loricate torque, gel ring, odnowa earring, mpaca/nyame hands/feet. Seafood gratin.

The UNM stuff with R15 augments.

Is evasion checked before TE anticipating? Blu has occu and nin has some shadows to provide a small buffer eating those 20% hits that inevitably get through. Either way it could probably work