Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

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 Asura.Reidden
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By Asura.Reidden 2025-06-22 15:49:32
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Taint said: »
Some of this got lost in translation since the Original poster edited his post saying that Ryou+1 are poop.

They are NOT poop and offer a unique stat found on no other gear.

They can be used in 99.9% of content at the moment.

Limbus yes
Sortie yes
Seg Farming yes
CoD yes
Everything before that, yes

Gaol v0-20 yes, with some consideration at v20 with fetters out.

Gaol v25, NO but SAM has incredibly limited use as a job.

This is pretty much the standard, sometimes i even throw in gotes too lol.
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By Genoxd 2025-06-22 16:52:52
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Content level 130 is a joke. You don't need to gear for ***in limbus. Sortie you can get away with 1-2 pieces without issue. Higher odyssey yes you will die
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-22 17:14:37
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I agree 130 Limbus is a joke... Vs 1-3 mobs. I can survive in my normal TP set with trusts healing, which isn't any more than 20pdt. when I pull 5-6, it's not a joke and I'll drop quick if I'm not in the proper MDT set. Trusts can only heal but so fast to keep you alive. With real WHM/party, wear whatever you want, that's between y'all two. Wearing a couple of glassy pieces won't instantly get you killed, but eating a disgusting TP move/status effect from something because you chose to wear something not evasive, sucks. That alone makes using some pieces with less magic evasion less desirable.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-22 17:28:55
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You do know you can change gear right?
Do you guys not toggle to tankier sets on the fly? On mob nuke or wind up for a physical? You know third eye

I keep a pdt mdt meva max set on hotkey

Running through a pack of mobs to pull them is what pdt then hybrid sets are for
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By eliroo 2025-06-22 18:14:07
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Dodik said: »
Taint said: »
Limbus yes
Sortie yes
Seg Farming yes
CoD yes
Everything before that, yes

Limbus - no at 130.
Sortie *** no
Seg farming hell no get the *** out of here with that ***
CoD yes
Anything other than the above, hell no.


FTFY.

Never taken Ryou off in Limbus or Sortie and why do you need MEVA for segment farming?

Do you leave your house in a bubble suit or something?
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-06-22 18:49:40
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Honestly the "Limbus - no at 130" has to be a joke lol, that's like saying don't wear it on reisenjima trash mobs.

Taint pretty much has it right, you're not in danger of dying or even getting enfeebled out of fights on anything but V20/25s wearing standard emp+3/ryou feet.

The enfeebles that land in sortie either don't impact your dps or you cant resist anyways, the only exception being Triboulex fetters if you aren't having a tank soak them all but even then they don't actually enfeeble if he is stunned(not to mention barfira from whm is enough to resist the amensia more often than not) which is very easy to do with polearm.

Nor are you going to become an actual liability for your healer.
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By SkyfangR 2025-06-22 19:12:27
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quick mechanics questions:
at what point does +WSD on a head piece outstrip the +250 TP bonus on mpaca head? is there such a point?
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By Nariont 2025-06-22 19:32:35
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most scaling WS have such scaling that the general answer is; when you cant use that excess TP bonus. I'm sure there's exceptions but im not aware of any off-hand
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-22 21:20:49
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Yeah when you have 3k

You shouldn't be using mpaca or moonshade at 3k if people needed a psa
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By Leviathan.Fiddle 2025-06-22 21:23:03
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hitting the Ftp increase is generally better then anything else, if you doing samurai right you should be be 2ktp after ws consistently, you just need to do a include of TP threshold to change out mpaca head and moonshade earring as your tp is closer to 3k tp
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-23 04:32:43
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Nariont said: »
most scaling WS have such scaling that the general answer is; when you cant use that excess TP bonus. I'm sure there's exceptions but im not aware of any off-hand
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he was asking something like "how much WSD would a Head piece need to be better than Mpaca all of the times?"

I don't know the answer of course, altough it should be easy to test on a SAM spreadsheed I suppose, but I'm lazy.
Mpaca doesn't only have TP+200 btw, that's clearly its major damage contributor for SAM WSs but it also sports a lot of acc, a lot of att, TA+5% and DA+5% and, last but not least, higher than usual STR value, which is the major WS Mod for SAM WSs.

Nyame piece has similar stats, but they're inferior to Mpaca. And the WSD+12, appearently, isn't enough to compensate for slightly inferior stats and, obviously, for the lack of TP+200.

I'm sure there's a threshold where enough WSD would be better than TP+200, I just have no clue where lol
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By Bismarck.Voight 2025-06-23 04:46:11
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Dodik said: »
Taint said: »
Limbus yes
Sortie yes
Seg Farming yes
CoD yes
Everything before that, yes

Limbus - no at 130.
Sortie *** no
Seg farming hell no get the *** out of here with that ***
CoD yes
Anything other than the above, hell no.


FTFY.
As a career Samurai myself, I couldn't help but both laugh and die a little inside when I saw this. I've been SAM with Ryou +1 on all the content you are saying "*** no" on, and never had any issues at all

Makes me think it's the players, not the gear.
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By Dodik 2025-06-23 05:18:22
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I've said I don't use those feet at all, so you can just assume "No" to everything since I don't use them.

Call it "difference in play style" or "guy being a total weirdo about this for some reason", doesn't matter.

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By Asura.Vitellius 2025-06-23 05:35:12
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They funny thing is, I have never seen any Samurai actually use a Ryou Sune-Ate +1.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-23 05:55:03
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Nariont said: »
most scaling WS have such scaling that the general answer is; when you cant use that excess TP bonus. I'm sure there's exceptions but im not aware of any off-hand
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he was asking something like "how much WSD would a Head piece need to be better than Mpaca all of the times?"

I don't know the answer of course, altough it should be easy to test on a SAM spreadsheed I suppose, but I'm lazy.
Mpaca doesn't only have TP+200 btw, that's clearly its major damage contributor for SAM WSs but it also sports a lot of acc, a lot of att, TA+5% and DA+5% and, last but not least, higher than usual STR value, which is the major WS Mod for SAM WSs.

Nyame piece has similar stats, but they're inferior to Mpaca. And the WSD+12, appearently, isn't enough to compensate for slightly inferior stats and, obviously, for the lack of TP+200.

I'm sure there's a threshold where enough WSD would be better than TP+200, I just have no clue where lol

This is generally a complex question and math is different for each WS on every TP threshold. For example going from 1500 to 1700 on Savage blade is worth more than going from 2000 to 2200. and from 1300 to 1500 worth more than from 1500 to 1700.

Then it also matters how much WSD you already have.

TL;DR You would need to calculate it individually for each WS, on each TP threshold for specific WS set.
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