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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 11:36:45
Well, we all know that she really gave that money to the Wounded Warrior Project.
I mean, she wouldn't lie about that, would she? Never mind that she lied several times to people. But because she has been "harassed" by a customer, she wouldn't lie about donating money to a charity...
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-12-02 11:40:01
Well, the saga continues!
Now, I sincerely hope the media will delve into this a little further. Then again, it could always be a case of the former co-worker getting in her opportunity, but the statement given by the active-duty marine makes me apprehensive.
What a cluster!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-12-02 11:43:07
Just 3k? There are Youtube partners who rake in more e-begging >.>
(Not that stealing isn't stealing but still...)
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2013-12-02 11:43:13
Well, maybe she remembered she was dishonorably discharged from the Marines, and decided not to donate to the Wounded Warrior Project.
Maybe she instead donated the money to brain cancer research, since she was supposedly suffering from that too.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 12:36:57
I think it is pretty obvious that it went to one place, the bank account of her personal charity (aka her bank account).
Some sources state that she made over $10k in donations also.
But still. I'm waiting for those who automatically defended her (aka Squishy, Pleebo, Viciousss) to still defend her.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 12:45:08
Is it obvious? No one has given any real indication of where it actually has gone... unless you have bank statements or you watched her deposit it into her account then it isn't all that obvious... It's just how you feel about it lol...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 12:47:36
Is it obvious? No one has given any real indication of where it actually has gone... unless you have bank statements or you watched her deposit it into her account then it isn't all that obvious... It's just how you feel about it lol... So, you are saying that a pathological liar said that they are going to use XXX money for one thing, and you believe them, even though you know that they are a pathological liar? Seriously?
Sorry, I'm not that gullible.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 13:09:51
Is it obvious? No one has given any real indication of where it actually has gone... unless you have bank statements or you watched her deposit it into her account then it isn't all that obvious... It's just how you feel about it lol... So, you are saying that a pathological liar said that they are going to use XXX money for one thing, and you believe them, even though you know that they are a pathological liar? Seriously? Sorry, I'm not that gullible. I must have missed the pathological liar part but the point still stands... you have no proof one way or the other... so it is in fact not obvious...
I mean to me it seems obvious that you are basing your judgement off emotion instead of fact but hey you could see it a different way...
Can't say I've really kept up with any developments on this one but it already seems like the value of the donations are wildly fluctuating and no one has anything concrete on where it did or didn't go... not saying I believe her but not saying I don't either...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 13:18:37
Well, there are 2 solutions to this then.
1) Go to Wounded Warriors Project and demand that they disclose if she donated or not (highly illegal, but that doesn't stop anyone, now does it?).
2) Donate some money to her for this "atrocity," then demand that she pays back the money and/or prove that the money went to WWP. Have the donation letter show that she made the donation and make her publicly publish said donation letter. Since there are other people out there with donation letters (plus us tax accountants can spot a fake charity letter quicker than you can say foul), we can actually determine if she did make a donation to that charity or not.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-12-02 13:21:46
Is it obvious? No one has given any real indication of where it actually has gone... unless you have bank statements or you watched her deposit it into her account then it isn't all that obvious... It's just how you feel about it lol... So, you are saying that a pathological liar said that they are going to use XXX money for one thing, and you believe them, even though you know that they are a pathological liar? Seriously? Sorry, I'm not that gullible. I must have missed the pathological liar part but the point still stands... you have no proof one way or the other... so it is in fact not obvious...
I mean to me it seems obvious that you are basing your judgement off emotion instead of fact but hey you could see it a different way...
Can't say I've really kept up with any developments on this one but it already seems like the value of the donations are wildly fluctuating and no one has anything concrete on where it did or didn't go... not saying I believe her but not saying I don't either...
Nausi referred to Morales as a "pathological liar"...
The girl appears to be a pathological liar.
...Just to circumvent the confusion, but his statement at least extends the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt.
Taking that and running with it is just easier it seems.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 13:40:15
Well, there are 2 solutions to this then. 1) Go to Wounded Warriors Project and demand that they disclose if she donated or not (highly illegal, but that doesn't stop anyone, now does it?). 2) Donate some money to her for this "atrocity," then demand that she pays back the money and/or prove that the money went to WWP. Have the donation letter show that she made the donation and make her publicly publish said donation letter. Since there are other people out there with donation letters (plus us tax accountants can spot a fake charity letter quicker than you can say foul), we can actually determine if she did make a donation to that charity or not. Those are the two solutions you came up with? pretty lame man...
1)I mean you could have at least said something like have her sign a waver with the WWP allowing them to disclose the donation and where it came from if it did...
2)What she should of done in the first place is just told people to donate to the WWP in lieu of sending directly to her... and why would I have to donate now? Why not just see if someone else has done it? Or it's their money and you know... they'll do with it what they want...
The "solutions" you put forward are by far not the only ones out there and they don't seem to be very well thought out either...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 13:41:24
Is it obvious? No one has given any real indication of where it actually has gone... unless you have bank statements or you watched her deposit it into her account then it isn't all that obvious... It's just how you feel about it lol... So, you are saying that a pathological liar said that they are going to use XXX money for one thing, and you believe them, even though you know that they are a pathological liar? Seriously? Sorry, I'm not that gullible. I must have missed the pathological liar part but the point still stands... you have no proof one way or the other... so it is in fact not obvious... I mean to me it seems obvious that you are basing your judgement off emotion instead of fact but hey you could see it a different way... Can't say I've really kept up with any developments on this one but it already seems like the value of the donations are wildly fluctuating and no one has anything concrete on where it did or didn't go... not saying I believe her but not saying I don't either... Nausi referred to Morales as a "pathological liar"... The girl appears to be a pathological liar. ...Just to circumvent the confusion, but his statement at least extends the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt. Taking that and running with it is just easier it seems. thank you for that Z! Now I see that Nausi's ramblings are being taken as fact by some... dark days I tell you... dark days...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-12-02 13:43:07
I think it is pretty obvious that it went to one place, the bank account of her personal charity (aka her bank account).
Some sources state that she made over $10k in donations also.
But still. I'm waiting for those who automatically defended her (aka Squishy, Pleebo, Viciousss) to still defend her. In case you missed what I already said,
On topic, if the receipt was forged, that really does a disservice to those actual examples of discrimination and bigotry. There's enough of that crap happening already and making them up only bruises the current discourse. If you're looking for more speculation there's really no need since you seem to have that covered.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 13:53:08
Well, there are 2 solutions to this then. 1) Go to Wounded Warriors Project and demand that they disclose if she donated or not (highly illegal, but that doesn't stop anyone, now does it?). 2) Donate some money to her for this "atrocity," then demand that she pays back the money and/or prove that the money went to WWP. Have the donation letter show that she made the donation and make her publicly publish said donation letter. Since there are other people out there with donation letters (plus us tax accountants can spot a fake charity letter quicker than you can say foul), we can actually determine if she did make a donation to that charity or not. Those are the two solutions you came up with? pretty lame man...
1)I mean you could have at least said something like have her sign a waver with the WWP allowing them to disclose the donation and where it came from if it did...
2)What she should of done in the first place is just told people to donate to the WWP in lieu of sending directly to her... and why would I have to donate now? Why not just see if someone else has done it? Or it's their money and you know... they'll do with it what they want...
The "solutions" you put forward are by far not the only ones out there and they don't seem to be very well thought out either... And yet, you provide 0 solutions. Just "maybes."
Even if she signs a waiver, they are still bound by the law to not disclose her donation. She has to do it herself.
As for the second solution, it is just an indirect way to demand that she discloses it herself. If you don't have any "skin in the game," then why should she listen to you? If you have a legal right to sue for damages (aka "skin in the game"), then she would either have to put up the donation list to satisfy any chances of a lawsuit or don't, get sued and lose, face some criminal penalties also, and so on. But like I said, an indirect method of making her provide the charity receipt herself.
But she has been proven to be a pathological liar. Or are you going to say that the testimonies of several people along with the evidence of the receipts along with the Marine Corp. dishonorably discharged her (and yet, she said she belonged with the Marines. When you get dishonorably discharged, it's like you never were there in the first place. That alone proves that she is a liar.), and yet, you still defend her like she is innocent...
Gullible much?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 14:03:10
I didn't know I needed to provide solutions... I'd much rather provide maybes (I did this?) than the garbage you put up there...
I didn't hear anything about testimonials or dishonorable discharges...
even so... While it might make me less likely to believe her it doesn't prove guilt lol... even the boy who cried wolf told the truth at one point... throw him to the wolves at that point though right?
The point is that you have no proof... I'm neither supporting her nor defending her so I don't get where you think I'm "defending her like she's innocent" though in our legal system you are innocent until proven guilty lol... sooo... until you have enough evidence to prove that she did it or didn't do it then I'm still undecided about the whole thing... I don't get what's so hard to understand about that...
Or is it just you seem guilty therefore I deem you guilty!?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-02 14:11:10
Watch the video that Nausi provided. It was even from a liberal source too!
But yeah, go ahead and say "well Nausi provided that story/article/video, so it must be fantasy!"
But you know, instead of saying that you didn't see anything, why not actually look at what other people provided as support to their arguments instead of assuming none exist...
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2013-12-02 14:24:08
I didn't hear anything about testimonials or dishonorable discharges...
Waitress in Anti-Gay Note Dispute Was Dishonorably Discharged From Marines: Source
Google is your friend.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 14:25:49
Watch the video that Nausi provided. It was even from a liberal source too! But yeah, go ahead and say "well Nausi provided that story/article/video, so it must be fantasy!" But you know, instead of saying that you didn't see anything, why not actually look at what other people provided as support to their arguments instead of assuming none exist... Man... you are just making up arguments with yourself now aren't ya! When have I ever said that? I'm not even arguing for innocence or guilt... When are you going to address what I have been talking about which is that you have no proof? I haven't even taken a side and you're treating the situation like I've taken up defense of her personal honor and nothing she could do would ever be wrong!
I said no proof is available that accurately determines who is right and who is wrong in this situation... I never said any of the things about the discharge or testimonials were untrue... I did question the pathological liar statement as I thought that was coming from Nausi alone... Even then I did address that... even if she is... it doesn't make her guilty... all it really does is shift perception...
Lazy on my part... I wasn't going to go backread for whatever popped up since the last time I was here... but if you paid attention to what I said you'd also know I can't watch videos while I'm at work... so even if...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2013-12-02 14:28:46
Google is not my friend! It never was!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-12-03 13:58:05
Well it looks like somebody has taken up the mantle that not all religious zealots are stingy tippers: Tips4Jesus dropping 5k on a $143 tab
Post edit: The best part of the article is that they tipped 500 at Jumbo's Clown Room. As a LA native that ***is ironic and hilarious... then again rumor has it Jesus loved them hoes.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-12-03 14:22:15
Well it looks like somebody has taken up the mantle that not all religious zealots are stingy tippers: Tips4Jesus dropping 5k on a $143 tab
Post edit: The best part of the article is that they tipped 500 at Jumbo's Clown Room. As a LA native that ***is ironic and hilarious... then again rumor has it Jesus loved them hoes.
Saw this last night, but there was only one photo of one of the recipients and a photo of her receipt. Glad to see that the Instagram photos quelled my suspicion that he was handing out generous tips to only one sex.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-12-03 14:29:26
But, I thought we were all supposed to hate on people who are different than us!
I mean, that's the whole point of this thread. Even Zero admits it too.
inb4 strawman accusations
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-12-03 14:32:13
Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-12-03 14:40:38
But, I thought we were all supposed to hate on people who are different than us!
I mean, that's the whole point of this thread. Even Zero admits it too.
inb4 strawman accusations
Well.. I haven't admitted to anything let alone that we're all supposed to hate on people who are different than us.
I think people need to be accepting of people who are different.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-12-03 14:49:12
In case anyone doesn't know what the state of Alabama is like. SORRY FO' DERAILIN' Y'ALL.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-12-03 14:54:06
Alexander.Carrelo said: »
In case anyone doesn't know what the state of Alabama is like. SORRY FO' DERAILIN' Y'ALL.
Pooor Forrest.
I saw this article this morning... gotta love college football fans.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2013-12-03 14:59:36
Yeahhhhh, apparently things didn't go so well for Mr. Gump after the movie. :(
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-12-03 16:39:54
Forrest is apparently a turncoat! What would his alma mater think of this! 'Bama on 'Bama crime! Paul Bryant is spinning in his grave.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2013-12-03 17:21:50
As someone who a.) doesn't care about football but b.) whose team benefited from Auburn's spectacular performance, I have no sympathy.
Thank heaven my family made me watch football over Thanksgiving or I'd have missed several important bits of news.
By Fumiku 2013-12-04 11:56:11
Alexander.Carrelo said: »
In case anyone doesn't know what the state of Alabama is like. SORRY FO' DERAILIN' Y'ALL.
Almost spit my cereal out! That was funny as hell!
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