No Tips After Dinner For Gays!

I have to agree with Kingnobody's cynicism in that we do live in a day and age where that could happen i.e a person fabricating a hate message posting it on the internet for sympathy and support.

But with that same level of cynicism I also believe that if the event is not fabricated, the offending person would now be realizing what kind of impact the internet can have and would be wanting to deny, and distance themselves from that act as much as possible.

Well, that's a nice conclusion! TY for the update, Pleebs.

You know, it'd be ironic if the original customer wasn't talking about homosexuality when they wrote that comment...

Much like Syagin's post (on the previous page) there does seem to be two sides to every story...

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Server-Tip-Lifestyle-Receipt-Discrepancy-233040811.html

...whose side is the truth remains to be seen, sadly.

Morales did initially do a public name-and-shame of the customer(s) on her Facebook, I remember reading, but then removed it out of what she felt was principle--so it would seem unlikely she was worried of facing public scrutiny of her side of the story. However, the third-party confirmation of the billed amount (from the credit card company) is rather curious.

It would certainly be a shame if this cause célèbre, and the awareness generated, turned out to be false (a la 'Gay Girl in Damascus' blog, or that Bethany Storro story about having acid thrown in her face in an attack by a stranger.)

Damn and all the fake outrage and hate speech by liberals was all for nothing? This is usually the part where they slither away quietly with egg on their face of course never admitting they were wrong because a hoax, even though its a lie, is justified.

Now lets see, if she did lie to the public, if she will give back the money that was "donated," including what she claims to have been donated to the Wounded Warriors Project.

But, Bush's fault. Or Rush's fault. Or America's fault. Or whatever placeholder excuse they are using now.

Do people actually fill out the customer copy? Providing that means nothing because you can write whatever you want on there whenever you get around to it... honestly surprised they still have it but might just be me that tosses those out... If they can provide this visa bill though that would go a long way to prove their innocence!

I don't get why the restaurant won't hand over the original receipt either... get it over with...

lol it doesn't take much to convince you guys to take the side you want to take... Someone is saying they didn't do it!?! Lets believe them cuz I want to! lol...

Still not enough evidence either way...

I do not know if it is fake or real myself and really do not care either way. What bothers me is the amount of hate everywhere you turn anymore. Whether religious, sexual, or just for who you are, everyone seems to hate each other.

Went to a renewing of vows a year ago at a catholic church and for 45 minutes we all were given an earful of how gay marriage is wrong and we all should hate it. Had I not been related to the people in the ceremony I might of got up and left. I do not agree with it and still do not understand how people that preach acceptance can also preach hate. Hell the bible speaks out more against divorce than being gay. My wife wants my son to be catholic as that is what she is but I have a huge issue with beliefs having a hatred for them.

Hate is just not from religions either though. I am an atheist and lately am embarrassed by what people with like beliefs are doing. Forcing their belief on others and keeping things from people every chance they get. Taking presents away from kids because it has a good message in them is just pathetic. Everyone wants to push their stuff on everyone else to feel better about it I guess. I just wish more people would live by the to each their own and let everyone believe how they please without fear of bigotry. Unless you're a Taru. Half my size equals half my rights I always say.

I to this day think the belief in God can be a beautiful thing, bringing people together to share and show they care. What I will never understand how religion can take something that can be so great and make it so harsh.

I'm not taking anyone's side, I'm just presenting a counterargument for those who automatically take the side of the waitress without hearing the customer's side.

Right now it is "he said, she said."

Welcome to human nature. We hate because we are.

Customer copy is used for credit card reimbursment for company cards. Sometimes companies require itemized receipts only, sometimes both the credit card receipt and itemized list, and sometimes only the credit card (customer copy).

When I served/bartended most non-business customers threw theirs away but some people kept them in case of fraud or wrong end of the night tallying on the part of management/server.

am i missing the part where the customer said anything in response? there aren't two sides to this, especially if the waitress wrote it herself. which is ridiculous to assume, anyway.

Two sources where the customer is denying the racist comment.

I get that, the reason I asked was because it seemed like it was just a family going out for dinner not a business expense...

Ahh... I always check over the bill before I ever give them any form of currency lol...

There are two sides to it! The customers have been denying it... they said they waited awhile because they thought it would just die out but then it didn't lol... so now they are even bringing up the thought of a lawsuit and such it appears...

So tell me really, was the ceremony 45 minutes of the priest giving antigay remarks, or was it mentioned once in the ceremony that Catholic marriage is between man and woman, and you being the angry atheist became outraged? In your mind translated it into hate speech and exaggerated the entire ceremony as gay bashing. It seems you are guilty of the hate brother.

Based solely on the bolded portion of his quote, I don't think you can assume he "hates" anything. He may just simply disagree with the teachings of the Catholic Church. I too disagree with the Catholic Church but wouldn't go as far as to say as I hate them or harbor ill will towards them. It just seems like you are trying to bait him into an admission.

*Edit* Although his wording in the bolded portion does leave open the interpretation of "hating". Perhaps we have a different interpretation of what he meant to say. I'll wait to be stood corrected.

lol he says he has a "hatred for them"

Edit: you ninja edited!

Lol. Sorry for the ninja edit. I reread his comment afterwards and gave myself an out. "hatred for them" could stand for his beliefs towards members of the church, or it could be describing the feelings of the church towards members of the gay community. It will need clarification.

Either way I'm sure it influences how he perceives what is being said at a Catholic wedding and the mere mention of marriage between a man and woman would set him off. The bride and groom would have walked out on a priest going off on a 45 minute antigay rant.

Hmm, need some reading comprehension up in hurr.

On topic, if the receipt was forged, that really does a disservice to those actual examples of discrimination and bigotry. There's enough of that crap happening already and making them up only bruises the current discourse.

The way I read the comment, he's not saying that he has a hatred of catholics, he's saying that the catholic belief structure has a hatred of gay people, and he has an issue with that.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Server-Tip-Lifestyle-Receipt-Discrepancy-233040811.html?fb_action_ids=10151726417746786&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_ref=s%3DshowShareBarUI%3Ap%3Dfacebook-like&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[329417550532514]&action_type_map=[%22og.recommends%22]&action_ref_map=[%22s%3DshowShareBarUI%3Ap%3Dfacebook-like%22]

Could it be fake? Looks like gays can be *** also!

Shutz already posted that article and we've been discussing it lol...

Still does nothing to actually prove its fake...

DAMMIT! I didn't back read my bad lol. I actually think it does. The fact that the news company was supplied a credit card bill with the charges shows the woman was tipped shows a lot.

After thinking about it a minute, They may still have wrote the message, but the waitress' story is now looking debunked so it will look like she was the one that wrote the message even though she possibly didn't and just added that they didn't tip her. Since they tipped her though, it will look like she was a liar. Which I think she is from what I am watching.

To clarify I have a issue with beliefs having hatred included in them. I like how you assume it was me becoming angry but my catholic wife brought it up to me first how the priest was ranting about it is not man and man or woman and woman but man and woman. he said those words 3 times in the rant. It was a renewal of vows that only took about 15 min and we were there just over a hour and half. He did talk about men taking care of their families as well. You can take it anyway you wish and that is your choice.

My wife wants my son to be raised catholic but do to what I have seen first hand I have my doubts about this church in our area. Could others in different areas be better? Sure, but we are not in a different area. I am open to trying other churches but as my wife puts it, "It does not feel right going back on my religion."

Edit:

I am married to a woman so not sure how mention of it would set me off. You assume that the bride and groom do not agree with the statements made from the priest. I personally do not know if they agree or disagree and have never asked them but they stayed in the room. But again you can take what I said how ever you like and if it helps you make me out to be a bad guy in the situation that is fine to. I will go about my life trying to be the best person I can no matter what is around me. I also like the angry atheist statement, made me chuckle.

On the story from what I am reading in the news they have credit card company proof that they were charged 18 for the tip. Not sure if this is true or not.

You know, if you look at both receipts, you can tell that there are 2 different styles of handwriting.

Look at the .55 on each, it is pretty obvious.