Questions On The Forthcoming Syria Strike.
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Questions on the forthcoming Syria strike.
Like Benghazi was just a mob in response to a youtube video...
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Does the Chemical Weapons Convention not exist in your reality? You keep citing this agreement like it erases what Obama said. Again here's what he said in 2012. YouTube Video Placeholder He said it would be "a red line for 'us'", he also says "we have been clear" now you can debate all you want about who "us" and "we" are, but just because some treaty exists doesn't mean he didn't say what he said. Now, predictably come back and insist he was talking about "the world" when he phrased "we" and "us". To which we will all happily close by pointing out how ridiculous that is because he's not president of the world, he's president of the USA.   As their managing editor leaves Time to go work for the White House lol. Nah no liberal bias in the media in America.
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Never is a thing as a liberal bias when it comes to anything.
Nope, the only bias out there is "Fox News" and "WSJ" Huffington Post and MSN are both very moderate, like Obama is the center of the political spectrum. They must protect Obama at all costs! It's a shame that willful blindness and denial are what prevent most on this site from seeing it.
You realize TIME does this frequently not because of spooky media bias to protect His Excellency Lord Obama XII (may Allah bless his soul) but in response to the reality that most Americans don't care about global issues? We love our bubble and we like to remain in it.
Ain't nobody got time for the world around us. We're the world. We're God. We've got the biggest global penis and everybody better know it. Apparently until Putin claims a small victory in protecting his vassal state. Then 'Murica can't help but feel insecure. Like men who freak out that anything might be construed as being gay. Better bomb someone so the world knows we're #1 USA USA USA USA USA. We should beat up some South American country or something.  photo sharing sites Look! Bias against Tibet!  screen capture windows 7 Revolution? What revolution.  pc screen shot Can't hurt that American pride, better talk about anxiety instead.
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I like how Putin is saying that it's all up to Syria now and he doubts that this action is even something that can be realized lol...
You can look through Time's covers here.
Time's covers are fairly weird and disturbing in what it highlights for various regions. It is interesting to see where the divergences occur.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Never is a thing as a liberal bias when it comes to anything. Nope, the only bias out there is "Fox News" and "WSJ" Huffington Post and MSN are both very moderate, like Obama is the center of the political spectrum. Fox News' bias wouldn't be such a prominent talking point for moderates and liberals if they had a better track record with the Truth. It's not a matter of spin or perspective, Fox has been proven over and over to flat out lie in order to stir the pot. Other networks, even heavily conservative ones, as a rule, do some fact checking. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » They must protect Obama at all costs! It's a shame that willful blindness and denial are what prevent most on this site from seeing it. It's one thing to blindly follow, a lot of liberals are guilty of that. It's another to oppose baseless claims. The guy is far from perfect, but there are way too many outspoken people who plainly don't like him and will find fault in everything he does or doesn't do, even to the point of condemning him for things he may have never even considered doing. Siren.Flavin said: » I like how Putin is saying that it's all up to Syria now and he doubts that this action is even something that can be realized lol... I'm not sure what to make of the statements, I haven't had a chance to see his statement in Russian, a lot is lost in translation. But, it does sound like they have already resigned the action as a failure before it even gets off the ground. Almost like the entire counterthreat was just a token action to lay the groundwork to later say "we told you so". Thankfully, Putin doesn't use nuance or hyperbole, he's not a hard person to read. Which is ironic for a former spy. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » The red line speech reiterated America's stance on chemical weapons, but it did not create it. I don't believe that the US's potential military involvement would have been avoided without Obama's speech because of our track record as Team America: World Police. Yes, this is opinion because it's based on a hypothetical situation. But then again I'm capable of reading things like multinational weapons agreements from the 90s so what do I know. Odin.Jassik said: » Fox News' bias wouldn't be such a prominent talking point for moderates and liberals if they had a better track record with the Truth. It's not a matter of spin or perspective, Fox has been proven over and over to flat out lie in order to stir the pot. Other networks, even heavily conservative ones, as a rule, do some fact checking. Strange, I just read a report that stated that, out of all of the stories published over the past 2 years, Fox received the highest ranking in reporting reality. I'll give you that link when I find it again. Quote: The guy is far from perfect, but there are way too many outspoken people who plainly don't like him and will find fault in everything he does or doesn't do, even to the point of condemning him for things he may have never even considered doing. Name one thing that people have condemned him for that, as you put it, he may have never even considered doing. 1. if you find a report from a source not owned by Rupert Murdoch or a radical civil libertarian, I'd be supremely impressed.
2. abolishing the 2nd amendment. fruitcakes like Alex Jones have been saying it since he was elected and it's never been true.
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » The red line speech reiterated America's stance on chemical weapons, but it did not create it. I don't believe that the US's potential military involvement would have been avoided without Obama's speech because of our track record as Team America: World Police. Yes, this is opinion because it's based on a hypothetical situation. But then again I'm capable of reading things like multinational weapons agreements from the 90s so what do I know. i suppose if obama made a speech reaffirming the us's stance on universal attraction, radical right nuts would say that planes wouldn't have crashed if Obama didn't create gravity. Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Never is a thing as a liberal bias when it comes to anything. Nope, the only bias out there is "Fox News" and "WSJ" Huffington Post and MSN are both very moderate, like Obama is the center of the political spectrum. Fox News' bias wouldn't be such a prominent talking point for moderates and liberals if they had a better track record with the Truth. It's not a matter of spin or perspective, Fox has been proven over and over to flat out lie in order to stir the pot. Other networks, even heavily conservative ones, as a rule, do some fact checking.  yeah CNN would never flat out lie
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Never is a thing as a liberal bias when it comes to anything. Nope, the only bias out there is "Fox News" and "WSJ" Huffington Post and MSN are both very moderate, like Obama is the center of the political spectrum. Fox News' bias wouldn't be such a prominent talking point for moderates and liberals if they had a better track record with the Truth. It's not a matter of spin or perspective, Fox has been proven over and over to flat out lie in order to stir the pot. Other networks, even heavily conservative ones, as a rule, do some fact checking. yeah CNN would never flat out lie They put an ambiguous quote from an unnamed official saying the suspect legally purchased a firearm. Assuming that an official did say that, it's not lying. It is lazy journalism, but I didn't say anything about CNN always being right... Or about CNN at all. well come on. show me some Fox lies as you call them.
Edit: Out of curiosity can you tell me what is wrong with the highlighted section of that CNN screenshot? They ran with it all day. Can you tell me all that is misleading about it?
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: » well come on. show me some Fox lies as you call them. Edit: Out of curiosity can you tell me what is wrong with the highlighted section of that CNN screenshot? They ran with it all day. Can you tell me all that is misleading about it? You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". There's plenty wrong with the highlighted section. He wasn't a suspect at that point, it wasn't breaking news, "official:" is ambiguous, and an AR-15 is a rifle. But, like I said, if that's what the official said, it doesn't make it false, it just means they are crappy journalists. Left-leaning or right-leaning, no one should rely on CNN for news, lol. Their slogan actually says it's not news!
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » You covers prove my point; they all shield Obama in America. And Jesus dude, that rant you just went on? Where does your rage and hatred of America stem from? When self-loathing bubbles up to the surface it's an ugly thing to witness. Going on about your own personal journeys of self discovery and projecting them onto I guess what you view as Patriots; crazy man crazy. Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one.
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Oh please, Time has been using different cover stories domestically far longer than Obama has been in office. It's just a matter of appealing to an audience. Do you really believe that an interest publisher publishes politically motivated magazines? They're in the business to make money, publishing magazines with covers about how we can never win a war we've invested a decade in isn't going to sell domestically.
Also, how in the name of anything rational is an interest article about the unwinable Afghani war be a slight against Obama? Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... Odin.Jassik said: » Oh please, Time has been using different cover stories domestically far longer than Obama has been in office. It's just a matter of appealing to an audience. Do you really believe that an interest publisher publishes politically motivated magazines? They're in the business to make money, publishing magazines with covers about how we can never win a war we've invested a decade in isn't going to sell domestically. Also, how in the name of anything rational is an interest article about the unwinable Afghani war be a slight against Obama? Time Managing Editor leaves to join Obama's State Department Yes I believe it is in their interest to help Obama politically and they are in fact very bias. And it is in their interest to not report on Afghanistan because it is a horrible quagmire and disaster that Obama declared is the "real war" when he ran for President. Odin.Jassik said: » Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... Those are some really weak examples of what you call lies and not one of them is from a news anchor. I actually read them, you probably did not or you wouldn't have posted that silliness.
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... Those are some really weak examples of what you call lies and not one of them is from a news anchor. I actually read them, you probably did not or you wouldn't have posted that silliness. This is part of the reason that people criticize fox. NOBODY IS A NEWS ANCHOR. They all say they're opinion people. Fox and Friends is the morning show, they talk about news, Bill O'Reilly is their flagship program and he talks about news. Also, there is literally no way you read 21 individual articles in 10 minutes. Odin.Jassik said: » Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... /sarcasm Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » The red line speech reiterated America's stance on chemical weapons, but it did not create it. I don't believe that the US's potential military involvement would have been avoided without Obama's speech because of our track record as Team America: World Police. Yes, this is opinion because it's based on a hypothetical situation. But then again I'm capable of reading things like multinational weapons agreements from the 90s so what do I know. Is the "give Obama a break button" broken yet? I don't believe our intervention would be much different either if he hadn't said it but what the hell does it matter? He DID say it. Then he leaned to Putin and Russia for the solution. You can try and look the other way but in the end Obama said "don't do this or else", and the "or else" was "i'll get Putin to stop you". If you refuse to recognize how that creates an image of weakness for Obama and/or how that image negatively affects the rest of us as a country, then I cannot help you as you are willfully ignorant. President's who make empty threats are bad. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... /sarcasm As a liberal to prove Fox news lies and they pull out..... Jon Stewart? "The Daily Show", is self described as "a facts I don't like program". It presents political satire within current events. This means that points are presented so that humor takes precedence over accuracy. The frequently leave out compelling facts that clear up most situations simply because without them, jokes are funnier. Taken at face value this means Jon Stewart lies to his audience to promote his show and its humor. It's really a shame that so many, give the show more credit than it's own producers do. I thought we all agreed at one point that all news outlets are bias and unreliable... lol...
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Odin.Jassik said: » Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Odin.Jassik said: » You can do a quick google search to find the hundreds of blatantly false things Fox has broadcast over the years, I'd bet you don't have to type more than "fox news l". So basically you're just talking a lot of crap. Show me a lie. Just one. I'm sure Pleebo will bail you out with a type-o if you can't come up with one. No, I'm not responsible to spoonfeed you information that requires you to type 3 words into google and read. I did the hard part for you This is just the first result that a google search yeilded... /sarcasm As a liberal to prove Fox news lies and they pull out..... Jon Stewart? "The Daily Show", is self described as "a facts I don't like program". It presents political satire within current events. This means that points are presented so that humor takes precedence over accuracy. The frequently leave out compelling facts that clear up most situations simply because without them, jokes are funnier. Taken at face value this means Jon Stewart lies to his audience to promote his show and its humor. It's really a shame that so many, give the show more credit than it's own producers do. That is like getting your current information from "How I met your Mother" or "Breaking Bad" and say that they are news sources.... |
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