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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 04:39:19
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What would be an ideal body piece to wear while TPing on thief? R.Harness for when acc is capped? Homam body for uncapped acc? Enkidu for everything else?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 04:40:29
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Mirke Wardecors +10 ACC, +3% DW would be ideal. Rapparee harness for pretty much everything else if you don't have it.
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 04:41:51
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Doesn't 3% DW round out the averages of both weapons thus somewhat affecting your TP return per stab? I thought things got sexy for THF with a rajas & skadi pants. Would 3% dw and suppa mess things up for that?

/slightly confused
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 04:43:45
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Yeah for now mirke if uncapped rape if capped. Homam body isn't really worth it with it's really low proc rate even with 5 more acc. Plus body droprate is pretty abysmal and of the 3 just getting the fight is by far the hardest droprate aside.

As far as DW. Depends on what you wear. If you are using blau/sir with suppa I believe it wont actually lower the tp per hit due to rounding. Either way lowering your effective delay when it's already that low will increase the rate at which you gain tp just by the fact that the tp per hit will go down by smaller percentage then your effective delay.

Oh and if you are capping haste anyways obviously do mirke. Which I think you might be able to do with new gear though you would have to eat sushi to make up for all the loss of acc wearing that stuff gives
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 04:44:01
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I don't really care too much about Store TP on THF. It's a DoT job first and foremost, and I'd still recommend Rapparee over Mirke for most things. You shouldn't have to worry about ACC anymore in FFXI so Rapparee gets the job done.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-04-04 04:45:51
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Siren.Enternius said:
I don't really care too much about Store TP on THF. It's a DoT job first and foremost, and I'd still recommend Rapparee over Mirke for most things. You shouldn't have to worry about ACC anymore in FFXI so Rapparee gets the job done.

True. Pizza = Bring on ze haste <3
But assuming your EGLS was kind enough to let THF be more than a TH stick at the end of the fight, wouldn't Enkidu be good for making sure you dont hit for 0 and hit accurately on the tough stuff? It's like the hauby for THF so to speak.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 04:48:22
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Shiva.Weewoo said:
Siren.Enternius said:
I don't really care too much about Store TP on THF. It's a DoT job first and foremost, and I'd still recommend Rapparee over Mirke for most things. You shouldn't have to worry about ACC anymore in FFXI so Rapparee gets the job done.

True. Pizza = Bring on ze haste <3
But assuming your EGLS was kind enough to let THF be more than a TH stick at the end of the fight, wouldn't Enkidu be good for making sure you dont hit for 0 and hit accurately on the tough stuff? It's like the hauby for THF so to speak.
THF doesn't really hit for 0, trust me. Especially with better weapons being added.

As for if you need more ACC, Squid Sushi+1 is pretty well guaranteed to cap ACC on anything before LV90, and after LV90 if you really needed the ACC, SH+1 is the way to go. Sure, Homam body is better, but it's still really not even worth worrying about. SH+1 is cheap and useful.
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 04:50:15
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Kinda curious what dagger augments from Trial of the Magian or w/e has to offer. Haven't seen any posted results or screenshots yet, but I'm dying to know.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 04:54:01
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I haven't looked into the specifics, but just looking at the wiki page rq,:


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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 04:56:03
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For the Kartika... All I can say is farewell P.harpe and your 0/209582509835083508325 spree on Xolotl.

As for the Athame, the delay is too high to offhand but depending on the OAT proc rate, it could very well contend with higher DMG daggers for both TP gain and weapon skill dmg spikes.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 04:58:18
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The Athame's delay, accounting for an assumed 45% double attack rate, is about 10 lower than Sirocco Kukri, which has the lowest delay on any dagger. So 140ish delay and 31 DMG, as opposed to the Kukri's 150 Delay and 26 DMG. I'd definitely offhand it. Or use Athame/Mercurial Kris for fun.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:00:23
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I seriously doubt str will make to big a difference on hitting for 0 or not on endgame mobs. Assuming you are allowed to tp on them. Partly cause the fstr range is pretty low. Min cap on say blau would be -2 high cap would be 10. Realistically speaking against something hard unless you like tping in heca you will probably range from way under the min cap to maybe 2-4. Adding say enkidus will add 1 or 2 to fstr, Which would change your base dmg from 31 to 33 at best. So you would have to be on the edge of doing 0 to get there. Same with att.

Generally speaking though given say 400-450 att unless you fighting a mob that is eiher 85+ has -dmg or phalanx or has a good 600def with no def down on it and/or stoneskin you shouldn't hit for 0 even with -2-3 fstr on your low hits
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:02:20
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You will almost always want to keep Blau in the picture, subbed if you have a higher dmg one available, main otherwise. The acc and atk bonus with it's nearly constant active effect is an indispensable value to any thief. But I must say, the double attack with decent base dmg and agreeable delay would make a m.kris look almost dubious.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 05:04:25
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Artemicion said:
You will almost always want to keep Blau in the picture, subbed if you have a higher dmg one available, main otherwise. The acc and atk bonus with it's nearly constant active effect is an indispensable value to any thief. But I must say, the double attack with decent base dmg and agreeable delay would make a m.kris look almost dubious.
While this in now way makes Blau obsolete, the DMG38 Delay201 option skyrockets WS damage and DoT by a lot. It's only one DMG under Mandau, for god's sake. And as for the Athame, do the math, the DPS is so much higher than Blau's. A tiny bit of ACC and a touch of Attack is not going to beat both faster TP gain and higher damage.
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:04:29
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You have no idea how happy I am to be able to use my brain to play this game since the brief period of time that I did play lolwow.
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:05:38
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For some reason I was under the impression that you could only pick one weapon from the ToM thingy. Well... That changes everything >_>
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-04 05:06:54
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Artemicion said:
For some reason I was under the impression that you could only pick one weapon from the ToM thingy. Well... That changes everything >_>
You can only have, say, one Athame, but since Kartika and Athame are two different weapons, with the base weapon being only Ex, not Rare, you're welcome to have both and a Dakini too.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:07:46
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Artemicion said:
You will almost always want to keep Blau in the picture, subbed if you have a higher dmg one available, main otherwise. The acc and atk bonus with it's nearly constant active effect is an indispensable value to any thief. But I must say, the double attack with decent base dmg and agreeable delay would make a m.kris look almost dubious.
Not anymore. Just check what the trend in blau prices.

That 38 dmg dagger has about the same DPS as blau. Has a fstr cap that is 2 higher too. So your base dmg on ws is likely to be 7 higher not 5.
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:08:42
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Sweet deal then. Bring on the extremely high base dmg and good base dmg with dbl atk offhand daggers ^^

If this is just a taste of what's to come with the level cap increase I have a feeling it will be very graceful and fun climb upwards from here on out.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:09:09
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Artemicion said:
For some reason I was under the impression that you could only pick one weapon from the ToM thingy. Well... That changes everything >_>
You can't have 2 weapons on the same trial or the ra/ex ones is all. Right now I have 2 swds in various stages but different paths and a staff. But note they are extremely annoying to complete. Even the low dmg OAT is annoying though soloable. Though at that point with taht dmg might as well use Mkris for your tp gain
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:11:33
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So I suppose with the really really high base dmg dagger with the new double attack offhand one defeats the need of passive bonuses for multi-hit weapon skills. Especially since DE gains an accuracy bonus from additional TP and pizza takes care of virtually any attack needs.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:19:00
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Well for thf gets lucky. Even though DE is a 5 hit ws with offhand providing another hit and a single triple attack proc bringing it up to 8. It isn't as hurt by having uncapped acc as say random sam penta-thrusting. Or mnk asuraning.

Since thf should be SA or TAing his wss the first hit offhand hit and and double/triple attacks will be garunteed so you are really only worrying about hitting those 4 inbetween hits.

Yeah acc is still very important but compared to other multihitters thf gets a little tiny bit of break in that regard. Which is nice since we don't get A+ dagger skill /rage
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:19:55
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Well off to try and make myself a flame ring.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:27:35
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GDI. Full break
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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:28:27
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Bummer. Stalk people doing Royal Ramble. Might be able to get a discount for being an instant buyer or something on that o.ingot.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:33:55
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Actually right now it's cheaper to make the ingots then to buy. Which means it looks like some O ore sellers are going to try and raise the price. But damn *** 700k loss right there.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:37:11
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But 2nd time is the great success

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By Artemicion 2010-04-04 05:46:10
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Think I'm gonna go mod my kitty's face. Mithra are cute but sometimes the expression and detail can be rather plain jane.
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By Titan.Marzbarz 2010-04-04 05:51:34
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Happy Easter ls :P
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-04 05:57:54
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Titan.Marzbarz said:
Happy Easter ls :P
Back at you.

Well time to go test out my new build against some poor bird. Man I feel ghetto though. Going all out on str and still only have 130 even with not setting a few spells I normally always would lol
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