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 Bismarck.Misao
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-06-29 10:10:44
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-29 10:13:16
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Teaching ASL at that young an age is an interesting thought.

I cannot overstate the benefit he got from it, being able to communicate some basic needs clearly (and see that his needs could be addressed so much more quickly when we knew the problem right away). It took away large parts of his frustrations and just made him (and us) so much happier overall.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-06-29 10:22:38
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Rooks said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »

hey, you must have a little guy too. they're exhausting. mine knows too many words now, & enjoys the excessive use of 'no' atm. it's pretty funny. he's so happy about saying no, I'll ask him if he wants a cookie, get the "no", then a series of panicked 'yeses' good stuff. I'll have to get healthy & toss that little *** into a lake this next weekend. or a pool at the very least.

how old is your son? 2-ish?

Turns 2 in ten days! He mostly doesn't like using "no". He typically uses the sign for "all done" to mean no, since usually what he's refusing is food. He's kind of lazy in that regard - anything he has a sign for, he'll use that if he can. He's getting better about it, and we don't regret teaching him the signs (because they were SO HELPFUL early on), but it means we do have to really focus on making him use the words.

How old is yours?

At what point did you start integrating sign language? Before age one?

I read that boys develop verbal skills a little bit later than girls, and you can see the frustration written all over their face when trying to articulate their wants/needs until the point they can smack you with a book or something of the like.

Bismarck.Leneth said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Bismarck.Leneth said: »
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The best way I can describe his personality is "cheeky". He's got that on lockdown. It's a blast.
Is this the behaviour at home or at the Kindergarten?
I'm assuming he wouldn't be in school yet as he is only just reaching 2.

Teaching ASL at that young an age is an interesting thought.
Don't know the name of the institution before Kindergarten in America, so I went with this as earliest I know.
(Zahrah what's the Ammerican equivalent for Kinderkrippe?)

Here, Kindergarten (in the European sense) is privatized, parochial, or a matter of hiring a baby sitter. Public Pre-K is offered from-state-to-state starting at age four. In some states, you can only qualify for public Pre-K programs if your family makes below a certain income threshold.

US public kindergarten officially starts at age five, which is unfortunate. :/
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-29 10:24:17
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Teaching ASL at that young an age is an interesting thought.

I cannot overstate the benefit he got from it, being able to communicate some basic needs clearly (and see that his needs could be addressed so much more quickly when we knew the problem right away). It took away large parts of his frustrations and just made him (and us) so much happier overall.

It made me chuckle when I realized "sprout tending" wasn't your mog garden.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 10:24:20
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
I read that boys develop verbal skills a little bit later than girls, and you can see the frustration written all over their face when trying to articulate their wants/needs until the point they can smack you with a book or something of the like.

Definitely witnessed this several times in my own past. My brother and cousin are a month apart in age (both 9 years younger than me) and she's the younger of the two; she was far more verbal than he was by two.

Similarly, my niece at like 18 months was babbling her own little language non-stop, whereas my nephew was just quiet until about two as well.
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2015-06-29 10:30:25
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
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Don't know the name of the institution before Kindergarten in America, so I went with this as earliest I know.
(Zahrah what's the Ammerican equivalent for Kinderkrippe?)

Here, Kindergarten (in the European sense) is privatized, parochial, or a matter of hiring a baby sitter. Public Pre-K is offered from-state-to-state starting at age four. In some states, you can only qualify for public Pre-K programs if your family makes below a certain income threshold.

US public kindergarten officially starts at age five, which is unfortunate. :/
Boo, that sounds awful for parents and children there.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-06-29 10:31:52
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I read that boys develop verbal skills a little bit later than girls, and you can see the frustration written all over their face when trying to articulate their wants/needs until the point they can smack you with a book or something of the like.

Definitely witnessed this several times in my own past. My brother and cousin are a month apart in age (both 9 years younger than me) and she's the younger of the two; she was far more verbal than he was by two.

Similarly, my niece at like 18 months was babbling her own little language non-stop, whereas my nephew was just quiet until about two as well.

How much you jabber with the wee ones can also determine how quickly they grasp verbal skills. Boys usually end up hitting the physical milestones earlier than girls, so each have their advantages.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-06-29 10:35:52
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Don't know the name of the institution before Kindergarten in America, so I went with this as earliest I know.
(Zahrah what's the Ammerican equivalent for Kinderkrippe?)

Here, Kindergarten (in the European sense) is privatized, parochial, or a matter of hiring a baby sitter. Public Pre-K is offered from-state-to-state starting at age four. In some states, you can only qualify for public Pre-K programs if your family makes below a certain income threshold.

US public kindergarten officially starts at age five, which is unfortunate. :/
Boo, that sounds awful for parents and children there.

Yes. It would be nice if the US would adopt a European approach to early-childhood education.

You have to do a lot of research for good child care. Tuition for child care can be ridiculous. Some people have to dump their children into cheap alternatives where the kids don't actually learn anything for the time they spend there.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 10:37:39
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Yes. It would be nice if the US would adopt a European approach to early-childhood education.

You have to do a lot of research for good child care. Tuition for child care can be ridiculous. Some people have to dump their children into cheap alternatives where the kids don't actually learn anything for the time they spend there.

To the point where if you make less than about $40-50k/year depending on your area, you're better off just having one parent quit and stay home with the child, because after you pay for care and all the other expenses that go along with working (gas, car maintenance, etc.) you've spent nearly the entire paycheck anyhow.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-29 10:43:44
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »

At what point did you start integrating sign language? Before age one?

I read that boys develop verbal skills a little bit later than girls, and you can see the frustration written all over their face when trying to articulate their wants/needs until the point they can smack you with a book or something of the like.

We gently started showing it off around six months. He used his first sign (milk) a little before eight months, had a couple of the big ones by ten, and probably has close to a hundred now.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-06-29 10:44:47
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Ramyrez said: »


It's a toss up, isn't it?
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-29 10:49:03
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To the point where if you make less than about $40-50k/year depending on your area, you're better off just having one parent quit and stay home with the child, because after you pay for care and all the other expenses that go along with working (gas, car maintenance, etc.) you've spent nearly the entire paycheck anyhow.

We are preposterously fortunate in this regard; we haven't had to put him in daycare yet. The wife is a researcher, and I'm a programmer, and we both work from home. We both balance our schedules out so he's always got a parent; her schedule leans more towards night work anyway, so she handles him during the day, and I manage early evenings and nights. It's not easy, but it's a gigantic money savings, and we know what attention is being paid to his development/what he's learning, etc.

We are fully cognizant of how lucky we are, because American policies and practices around infants/early childhood are complete ***.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 10:51:19
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
We are fully cognizant of how lucky we are, because American policies and practices around infants/early childhood are complete ***.

The words "vicious cycle" come to mind, but I'll save the rest for P&R.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-06-29 11:10:36
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just don't beat or neglect them & they'll land on their feet.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 11:18:14
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just don't beat or neglect them & they'll land on their feet.

But maybe give them a helmet anyhow. Just in case.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-06-29 11:19:05
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The shortest part-time job I had during college was as a daycare attendant. It lasted about a month. Worst job ever!

In my naive nineteen-year-old skull I thought to myself, "Great! I love kids! I have plenty of volunteer experience with the kiddos and I've baby-sat since I was thirteen. This will be a cinch!"

They stuck me in there with fifteen to twenty two and three-year-olds (potty training prime).

Anyway, the rest of the young attendants would let these kids run amok for how ever many hours their shift was designated, and from what I vaguely remember about my experience in the late 1980's, we actually had various scheduled activities through out the day. The only scheduling there were the nap times. By the time my classes for the day were done, I conveniently showed up during their nap.

Basically, no materials were provided for activities other than coloring pages and toys. So, flashcards, playdoh, construction paper, popsicle sticks (artsy-craftsy brickabrack) and whatnot I paid for by myself. I prepared a regiment for the day, which included story time and a special activity du jour. After doing this, I was pulled into the admin office one day, because other attendants complained that their kids weren't partaking in these activities. These other girls were pissed off that they couldn't devise ways (or were too lazy) to keep the chaos to a minimum.

It was a clusterfuck!

EDIT: Oh yeah. I provided my own boxes of gloves for changing diapers also. Forgot about that one. Unsanitary that they didn't have a policy for gloves or changing gloves from child-to-child since feces and urine were involved.

Very picky about childcare.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 11:35:49
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
They stuck me in there with fifteen to twenty two and three-year-olds (potty training prime).

I can't be the only person who read this and thought you were potty training special needs people who were 15 to 22-23.

Edit: Which, by the way, nothing prepares you for it. Nothing. If that sounds like a shitty job, you're right.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-06-29 11:59:38
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
These other girls were pissed off that they couldn't devise ways (or were too lazy to) to keep the chaos to a minimum.

they were pissed off because they didn't give two shits & you were raising the bar. what?!? activities? they don't pay us enough! /sitsback&readspeoplewhile2toddlersfighttothedeathoveraball

Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Very picky about childcare.

I am so picky I refuse to use it anymore. I can remember my own horror stories, let alone the ones I endured with the daughters. nope. nuh-uh. never again.

With cell phones being so predominate I can only imagine it's gotten worse. I guess you don't hear a ton of news stories though. huh. idk.

/shrug

what's for lunch today misa?
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-06-29 12:05:13
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should have fed those runts some fruit flavored glitter, so they can drop a
glitter bomb
on their parents.

lunch today? havent decided yet.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-06-29 12:07:11
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havent decided yet.

/tapshisfingersimpatiently
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-06-29 12:07:33
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
We are fully cognizant of how lucky we are, because American policies and practices around infants/early childhood are complete ***.
I can say I never really realized how bad it was, until we went through the experience here (from care during pregnancy through enrollment in "cradle-school").

What is considered unthinkably normal here is almost lavish luxury in the US.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 12:08:40
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What is considered unthinkably normal here is almost lavish luxury in the US.

If you can't afford it you don't deserve that luxury, clearly. You people and your communist police states...
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-06-29 12:08:57
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so much to get done at work
got here with 110% motivation to get ***done at 7:30am
10:00am
motivation hit -10%
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-06-29 12:09:01
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these wussy USA babies just need to pull themselves up by the booty-straps.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-06-29 12:09:50
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
What is considered unthinkably normal here is almost lavish luxury in the US.

If you can't afford it you don't deserve that luxury, clearly. You people and your communist police states...
Don't get me started on work weeks and vacation time.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 12:11:28
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Don't get me started on work weeks and vacation time.

Honestly, sort of a bone of contention with me right now because I'm look at my PTO and trying to decide if I want extra time with the immediate family this coming holiday weekend or if I want more time with the entire extended family at Christmas/New Year's...
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-06-29 12:13:36
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Siren.Mosin said: »
these wussy USA babies just need to pull themselves up by the booty-straps.
Always amuses me to hear people use that phrase to describe their accomplishments.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-06-29 12:15:03
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Don't get me started on work weeks and vacation time.

Honestly, sort of a bone of contention with me right now because I'm look at my PTO and trying to decide if I want extra time with the immediate family this coming holiday weekend or if I want more time with the entire extended family at Christmas/New Year's...
Oh, I understand completely. Been there, did that, not going to be doing it ever again if I have a choice.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-06-29 12:16:47
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
was as a daycare attendant. It lasted about a month.
I did this over the summer between my junior and senior year in high school. It was a daycare/private school.

Looking back on it I can't believe they left 20-30 3-5 year olds with a 17 year old, pretty much unsupervised. By working there my sister received a discount (she was 5 at the time) and I received minnimum wage ($5.15 hour).
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-29 12:19:15
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Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Oh, I understand completely. Been there, did that, not going to be doing it ever again if I have a choice.

Don't forget the people who would argue with me -- straight-faced and dead-serious -- "you don't even have kids, what do you need time off for, anyhow?"
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