wait no, give that envelope back, wrong one... you dont want that one.
-takes envelope and gives it to another Mod-
here, take this package, has a Scorched Earth trial badge.
sorry, no trial member benefits, goes against the Scorched Earth Motto.
"SCORCHED EARTH!"
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Ramyrez said: » Bro do you even internet? A fair point.
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But really. You think anyone who posts on this forum has a modicum of influence or ability to change a damn thing? Even the ones who act like they do?
We may make varying amounts of money but we're all stuck in the same system with our viewpoints that no one can change and we can't change anyone else's. We're all just spouting venom as a pressure valve release, for the most part. *taken from an edit to a new response thanks to paging!
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Pop into Ni read there is P&R drama overload. Go to P&R back read the last page. Doesn't need to read the rest due to knowing what said magical agreement between said user and Mods was broken....
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: » Ramyrez said: » Because everyone in there is like me or worse, just with different viewpoints and varying degrees of articulation. We all work in likely socially-contracted workplaces where we do our best not to rustle anyone's jimmies and then we get into an anonymous internet situation with other like-minded people in most ways (geeks) and then we all go to town finding each others' differences and arguing ad If the law is on your side, argue the law. If the law isn't on your side but facts are, argue the facts. If neither is on your side, assassinate the opposition's character. I guess what I don't understand is, what's the endgame? No one in there is going to convince anyone else of their viewpoint; anyone who goes in there already has opinions. Having to defend, or argue against, a position by providing evidence or facts is a good thing. Finding and analyzing documents, scientific studies, court cases, rulings, laws, and such is a skill that needs to be constantly polished. I can say that I've learned of a variety of different sources for information, simply by actually looking for primary information, rather than simple news summaries or gossip at the water cooler.
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Josiahkf said: » The biggest hurdle we'll ever face is fighting a cynical mindset like this and not letting it control our actions, my friend. Sorry. I probably should have been clearer in my use of language. "That none of us are willing to go out and try to change." I, for one, after work, don't go out and try to change the world or make it a better place. I just like to bluster about it online. I know that's on me. But I also know I have a gym to get to, dinner to make, laundry to do, and I'd like to spend at least an hour or two of my waking day doing something I actually enjoy, so... Sorry, civil disobedience, maybe next week. And that's on me. I know that. As do all of us who post here but don't really get out and do much. Some just admit it more than others. Edit: Also, cynicism is a very hard thing for me to shake. Like, super hard. We're talking requiring serious effort that I simply don't have left most days after actually working. I won't even go into it beyond that. Just...hey. That's my brain for ya. I kinda dislike mindless arguing.
I don't think P&R would be that contentious if it weren't for the same subjects being defaulted to and harped on time and time again.
Ramyrez said: » But really. You think anyone who posts on this forum has a modicum of influence or ability to change a damn thing? Even the ones who act like they do? I'd like to think everyone does what they can for what they feel is right given the time they have to do it and the means. Glass half full. For two or three years, usually around Christmas, I keep thinking that we could easily put together fun, community-wide challenges of some sort where people bet and then we could turn over those to The Red Cross, Toys for Tots, Saint Jude's, you call it. Honestly, there's enough people here.
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You leave for like a week and man... new mods galore... Girl boy was demodded into the shame hole for reasons that won't be made clear but to a few that "know wht happened" /sigh
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » You leave for like a week and man... new mods galore... Girl boy was demodded into the shame hole for reasons that won't be made clear but to a few that "know wht happened" /sigh Yeah, ***went down over Memorial Day weekend when I was out of town too. No clue what in the name of gumballs and garter snakes actually happened. Lakshmi.Rooks said: » I guess what I don't understand is, what's the endgame? No one in there is going to convince anyone else of their viewpoint; anyone who goes in there already has opinions.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » You leave for like a week and man... new mods galore... Girl boy was demodded into the shame hole for reasons that won't be made clear but to a few that "know wht happened" /sigh
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: » I don't think P&R would be that contentious if it weren't for the same subjects being defaulted to and harped on time and time again.
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: » I kinda dislike mindless arguing.
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Ideals.
sounds like a scheme from Apple to sell apple products!
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Josiahkf said: » Ramyrez said: » Edit: Also, cynicism is a very hard thing for me to shake. Like, super hard. We're talking requiring serious effort that I simply don't have left most days after actually working. I won't even go into it beyond that. Just...hey. That's my brain for ya. I'm an idealist cynic. I'm not being entirely silly when I say, "it's a pretty tough existance". But it's also not like I have it bad in any particular way, so it's a first world problem either way. And yet Ni remains. Say what you will about unfair taxes, decapitations, torture, serfdom, and a terrible distribution of wealth, but Ni has never fallen while under my rule.
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Asura.Dameshi said: » And yet Ni remains. Say what you will about unfair taxes, decapitations, torture, serfdom, and a terrible distribution of wealth, but Ni has never fallen while under my rule. Well, now you've done it. We're *** cursed and doomed and it's all_your_fault. That's mostly because we're all too old and curmudgeony to be bothered to move anywhere else.
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Ramyrez said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » And yet Ni remains. Say what you will about unfair taxes, decapitations, torture, serfdom, and a terrible distribution of wealth, but Ni has never fallen while under my rule. Well, now you've done it. We're *** cursed and doomed and it's all_your_fault. No seriously, I didn't do any of that. I just stood by idly while sipping on iced tea.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » That's mostly because we're all too old and curmudgeony to be bothered to move anywhere else. I can't go back to my old forum. I don't know anyone there anymore and the forum layout and design is _awful_ now. Asura.Dameshi said: » Ramyrez said: » Asura.Dameshi said: » And yet Ni remains. Say what you will about unfair taxes, decapitations, torture, serfdom, and a terrible distribution of wealth, but Ni has never fallen while under my rule. Well, now you've done it. We're *** cursed and doomed and it's all_your_fault. No seriously, I didn't do any of that. I just stood by idly while sipping on iced tea. 
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