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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 12:12:32
I want to write a book in which I have no hidden meanings, then watch everyone analyze it and try to determine what hidden messages there are. Would be fun to see what people say. That's why I love Nabokov so much. He purposefully wrote Lolita trying to imagine the most offensive topic imaginable. To this day people still don't understand. I had a classmate who read the same book and publicly announced to the class that she thought the book was a waste of time and she hated it, etc. And I realized that's the point. If you're worried about what it has to say and find it offensive, that's just Nabokov trolling you. He loved this attention, because he always felt that his work like all literature is a work of art, and simply that. Don't try to think of it didactically, he didn't mean it to be as such. He wasn't an advocate for pedophilia. He wrote it because it was just as much art to him as say looking at the Mona Lisa. And if people get offended, they don't get the point. What if they get the point and are offended anyways? Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it. Well just kinda making the point that you said "And if people get offended, they don't get the point" as if it were an absolute... and when I questioned that you replied "Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it" which to me takes away from your previous statement... which I believed to be false anyways...
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-07-18 12:13:55
I don't understand why 'Huckleberry Finn' is always on lists. 'Roughing It' is exponentially better and funnier!
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2012-07-18 12:16:44
Gatsby was about prohibition.
Yeah...Class warfare has nothing to do with Gatsby! LOL!
/facepalm
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 12:24:56
I want to write a book in which I have no hidden meanings, then watch everyone analyze it and try to determine what hidden messages there are. Would be fun to see what people say. That's why I love Nabokov so much. He purposefully wrote Lolita trying to imagine the most offensive topic imaginable. To this day people still don't understand. I had a classmate who read the same book and publicly announced to the class that she thought the book was a waste of time and she hated it, etc. And I realized that's the point. If you're worried about what it has to say and find it offensive, that's just Nabokov trolling you. He loved this attention, because he always felt that his work like all literature is a work of art, and simply that. Don't try to think of it didactically, he didn't mean it to be as such. He wasn't an advocate for pedophilia. He wrote it because it was just as much art to him as say looking at the Mona Lisa. And if people get offended, they don't get the point. What if they get the point and are offended anyways? Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it. Well just kinda making the point that you said "And if people get offended, they don't get the point" as if it were an absolute... and when I questioned that you replied "Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it" which to me takes away from your previous statement... which I believed to be false anyways... When I said that, yes it wasn't absolute. I'm allowed to admit that it wasn't 100% true. In those cases it is the point. However, if you understand it and you still don't like it, knowing full well that he didn't actually write it to offend you and yet you take offense anyway, then that's your prerogative. Again, you're allowed to analyze it your own way. So far I haven't heard a case where this is true, but it doesn't mean that it hasn't ever. So yes, strike me as wrong in the record books.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 12:41:57
this all kind of reminds me of when that world famous violinist went down into the subways of new york and started to play on his strat for tips as a kind of expiriment or what not... no one paid him much attention or knew who he was or even seem struck by the beauty of the music... While others pay hundreds of dollars and dress up just to go see him play... Not everyone understands or appreciates things the same way nor do they hold the same importance or significance... Ahh it was DC... that's my bad... Kinda trippy that they both played on the same instrument... thanks for the article!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 12:45:49
I want to write a book in which I have no hidden meanings, then watch everyone analyze it and try to determine what hidden messages there are. Would be fun to see what people say. That's why I love Nabokov so much. He purposefully wrote Lolita trying to imagine the most offensive topic imaginable. To this day people still don't understand. I had a classmate who read the same book and publicly announced to the class that she thought the book was a waste of time and she hated it, etc. And I realized that's the point. If you're worried about what it has to say and find it offensive, that's just Nabokov trolling you. He loved this attention, because he always felt that his work like all literature is a work of art, and simply that. Don't try to think of it didactically, he didn't mean it to be as such. He wasn't an advocate for pedophilia. He wrote it because it was just as much art to him as say looking at the Mona Lisa. And if people get offended, they don't get the point. What if they get the point and are offended anyways? Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it. Well just kinda making the point that you said "And if people get offended, they don't get the point" as if it were an absolute... and when I questioned that you replied "Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it" which to me takes away from your previous statement... which I believed to be false anyways... When I said that, yes it wasn't absolute. I'm allowed to admit that it wasn't 100% true. In those cases it is the point. However, if you understand it and you still don't like it, knowing full well that he didn't actually write it to offend you and yet you take offense anyway, then that's your prerogative. Again, you're allowed to analyze it your own way. So far I haven't heard a case where this is true, but it doesn't mean that it hasn't ever. So yes, strike me as wrong in the record books. I've seen many people take offense to what's been said to them or what they read or see etc. even after they've been told it's not meant to offend... whether you intend to offend someone or not... Even when the person understands its not meant to be offensive... it doesn't mean that people still won't be offended...
I guess my point is that it's easy to force our own perspective onto others but that it's foolish to think that others will share and practice that same persoective...
Edit: by force I don't mean to make try and make them adopt it or anything but rather perceive that they will act according to the way we actually perceive things... in this case your persective is that if one understnds that it was not meant to be offensive they will not be offended... in many cases that may be true but in many others it will also not be true... so it would be foolish to act under the presumption that all people would not be offended even if they do understand that it was not meant to be that way...
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 12:49:27
I want to write a book in which I have no hidden meanings, then watch everyone analyze it and try to determine what hidden messages there are. Would be fun to see what people say. That's why I love Nabokov so much. He purposefully wrote Lolita trying to imagine the most offensive topic imaginable. To this day people still don't understand. I had a classmate who read the same book and publicly announced to the class that she thought the book was a waste of time and she hated it, etc. And I realized that's the point. If you're worried about what it has to say and find it offensive, that's just Nabokov trolling you. He loved this attention, because he always felt that his work like all literature is a work of art, and simply that. Don't try to think of it didactically, he didn't mean it to be as such. He wasn't an advocate for pedophilia. He wrote it because it was just as much art to him as say looking at the Mona Lisa. And if people get offended, they don't get the point. What if they get the point and are offended anyways? Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it. Well just kinda making the point that you said "And if people get offended, they don't get the point" as if it were an absolute... and when I questioned that you replied "Well, they don't have to read it. Y'know, unless their grade depended on it" which to me takes away from your previous statement... which I believed to be false anyways... When I said that, yes it wasn't absolute. I'm allowed to admit that it wasn't 100% true. In those cases it is the point. However, if you understand it and you still don't like it, knowing full well that he didn't actually write it to offend you and yet you take offense anyway, then that's your prerogative. Again, you're allowed to analyze it your own way. So far I haven't heard a case where this is true, but it doesn't mean that it hasn't ever. So yes, strike me as wrong in the record books. I've seen many people take offense to what's been said to them or what they read or see etc. even after they've been told it's not meant to offend... whether you intend to offend someone or not... Even when the person understands its not meant to be offensive... it doesn't mean that people still won't be offended...
I guess my point is that it's easy to force our own perspective onto others but that it's foolish to think that others will share and practice that same persoective... Offense is a tricky thing. Someone out there is going to take offense to pretty much anything. I was watching a documentary last night called Hecklers where Jamie Kennedy was talking about critics and hecklers tearing apart people's work. And they mentioned offending people in there, and that in one way or another someone's going to get offended by something they say or do. It's hard to go anywhere these days and say anything without someone getting upset about it. And I'm just as guilty as anyone. If I hear anything racist or demeaning towards a group of people who don't deserve it, I get riled up. This is why I'll admit to being wrong. Offense is a tricky subject, though.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 12:58:55
Idk... I just figure people don't like having negative things being said about them or things they care about in general... Sometimes it's due to a misunderstanding or someone actually just being direct with you... People just handle things differently though... it's not all that hard to offend some people...
I've been called an ***... I understand that I very much am at times... the one way you can look at it is that it's a fact you look at it and you move on or you can look at it as someone is calling you an offensive name and get all up in arms about it... pretty easy to go to the latter even if the former is the truth...
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-18 13:29:05
Captain Awesome is a ***.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 13:30:00
Omfgyes! He's a total doucher.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-18 13:30:43
Omfgyes! He's a total doucher. I love the remarks about Nebraska, btw.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 13:33:45
Omfgyes! He's a total doucher. I love the remarks about Nebraska, btw. Why, thank you. I've honestly never been, but all I hear is how boring it is. lol Glad you enjoyed it. Now I just need to stick with it instead of letting it die like I do with most of the stuff I write.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 13:35:53
I posted the story I've been writing on the previous page and my narrator likes to make fun of a lot of things, including Nebraska.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-07-18 14:19:01
I want to write a book in which I have no hidden meanings, then watch everyone analyze it and try to determine what hidden messages there are.
Would be fun to see what people say. That's why I love Nabokov so much. He purposefully wrote Lolita trying to imagine the most offensive topic imaginable. To this day people still don't understand. I had a classmate who read the same book and publicly announced to the class that she thought the book was a waste of time and she hated it, etc. And I realized that's the point. If you're worried about what it has to say and find it offensive, that's just Nabokov trolling you. He loved this attention, because he always felt that his work like all literature is a work of art, and simply that. Don't try to think of it didactically, he didn't mean it to be as such. He wasn't an advocate for pedophilia. He wrote it because it was just as much art to him as say looking at the Mona Lisa. And if people get offended, they don't get the point.
Sounds almost like, what was it called... absurdism?
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-07-18 14:21:27
I enjoyed it. There were pop culture references, I knew it was talking about MW2. I liked the writing style. I like where the story is going, maybe.
Most of the stuff about Nebraska it true :( Lincoln has like 250k people and Omaha has 400k Thanks, man. I'm trying out something different with the narration. Usually I do third person omniscient, but I thought I'd mix it up and get a very personal look at this character. In fact, that's the whole point of this story. The plot actually won't make much of a difference, and could very well fall flat. I'm hoping the narration will pick up most of the slack.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 14:24:43
Did you edit anything since you first posted it?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 14:28:08
I enjoyed it. There were pop culture references, I knew it was talking about MW2. I liked the writing style. I like where the story is going, maybe. Most of the stuff about Nebraska it true :( Lincoln has like 250k people and Omaha has 400k Thanks, man. I'm trying out something different with the narration. Usually I do third person omniscient, but I thought I'd mix it up and get a very personal look at this character. In fact, that's the whole point of this story. The plot actually won't make much of a difference, and could very well fall flat. I'm hoping the narration will pick up most of the slack. The narration makes me feel interested in the person telling the story. He's random, he's someone I can relate to, and he cuts out the details of unnecessary things. I don't know what you're doing with the whole Captain Awesome thing, but I think it's a cool idea to take the perspective of a regular guy while there is superhero stuff happening around him and he just seems apathetic to it. It seems more like disdain than apathy towards the actions or even simply the existence of the superhero's/villians...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2012-07-18 14:47:31
Disdain would be cool too. Maybe he could grow up to be a villain when the story ends. If the very beginning was a precursor to what ends up happening I'd highly doubt that outcome... besides that... to me it comes off as he has equal amounts of disdain for both the heros and the villains... Though it does seem like there's a hint of jealousy... I'd be interested to see how the character develops.. mostly because I don't see this character having some kind of epiphany or anything or changing who he is so I'm kind of curious as to what about him develops... right now he seems kind of like a douche... he talks down about pretty much everybody and then also comments (on how he assumes) that the hero's/villains think they're better than him or something... he talks about a dead end job where he's struggling to make ends meet with rent and college tuition yet comments later that the money is good...
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-18 14:50:01
Disdain would be cool too. Maybe he could grow up to be a villain when the story ends. If the very beginning was a precursor to what ends up happening I'd highly doubt that outcome... besides that... to me it comes off as he has equal amounts of disdain for both the heros and the villains... Though it does seem like there's a hint of jealousy... I'd be interested to see how the character develops.. mostly because I don't see this character having some kind of epiphany or anything or changing who he is so I'm kind of curious as to what about him develops... right now he seems kind of like a douche... he talks down about pretty much everybody and then also comments (on how he assumes) that the hero's/villains think they're better than him or something... he talks about a dead end job where he's struggling to make ends meet with rent and college tuition yet comments later that the money is good... Money being good is relative though. Compared to similar jobs, the pay may be a bit better.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-07-18 14:56:03
*leaves a box of cream filled donuts* one of them is filled with mayonnaise
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-18 14:56:50
*noms on donuts*
Meh, I don't mind mayo.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-07-18 14:57:56
*leaves a box of cream filled donuts* one of them is filled with mayonnaise *lazily snatches box of donuts as he makes his way to the couch, flopping down upon it and beginning to munch on the donuts*
*yawn*
Good afternoon, Ni.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-18 15:00:38
Afternoon, Manthaian.
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree
Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present
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Flionheart 22174 2008-11-17 14:28:15
Krizz 22085 2007-06-30 15:22:38
Haseyo 20875 2009-01-12 15:55:51
Dameshi 19807 2009-02-17 10:29:14
Urial 18636 2008-02-09 01:15:03
Spence 18475 2009-05-04 11:26:27
Kalyna 15001 2010-01-21 11:40:04
Rydiya 13469 2008-05-16 05:24:33
Alyria 12656 2007-10-23 10:58:35
Tigerwoods 10807 2007-03-14 21:10:43
Enternius 10382 2007-08-10 04:14:29
Slipispsycho 10072 2008-09-05 08:56:34
Rumaha 10000 2009-02-20 13:28:03
Kojo 9060 2007-06-30 17:46:02
Sevourn 8567 2009-02-10 00:10:20
Cheyne 8527 2007-04-27 12:27:54
Mabrook 8356 2008-07-01 00:53:38
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