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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:23:44
Ramuh.Rowland said: Flion, teach me how to be good at TF2 with mouse and keyboard.
I tried it with a 360 controller but the config is horrrrrrrrrible and I couldn't figure out how to set the X and Y axis to look around like a normal FPS game.
What's your setup? Right now I have a full keyboard laptop but only a touchpad mouse. It's not exactly ideal.
WASD to move
CTRL to crouch
space to jump
I wouldn't try it with a touchpad mouse a USB mouse would make it a lot easier. Start at low sensitivity and push it up as you get more used to it is your best bet to get used to using a mouse :)
My hands are laid out as so:
Middle finger on W (this finger will control W and S)
Pointer on D (This will control D, R for reload, G for taunting and E for medic calling)
Wedding finger on A (Also controls TAB)
Pinky laying over Shift and CTRL
My thumb is laying on space for jumping, but that's really dependant on your hand size tbh.
If you use 1, 2 and 3 (etc) for weapon changing then I guess middle and pointer would control those. If you don't like that (I personally can't stand it) I use my mouse for weapon switches. I use my middle roller click for melee weapon, back button for weapon 1 and forward button for weapon 2.
other than that it's just really practice practice practice. It shouldn't take too long to get a hang of. Try practicing even when you're not playing, play out a scenario and do it with your hands.
Some classes are good for practicing like Medic and engy, they don't need such advanced control. Heavy is a fairly good choice too, but there is a large difference between a new heavy and a vet heavy.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:26:15
As for trackball, that's fine really as long as you can tweak the sensitivity to suit yourself.
I'll be into playing a bit of TF2 with you guys, but you'll have to excuse my lag >.>
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 08:28:03
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Rowland said: Flion, teach me how to be good at TF2 with mouse and keyboard.
I tried it with a 360 controller but the config is horrrrrrrrrible and I couldn't figure out how to set the X and Y axis to look around like a normal FPS game.
What's your setup? Right now I have a full keyboard laptop but only a touchpad mouse. It's not exactly ideal.
WASD to move
CTRL to crouch
space to jump
I wouldn't try it with a touchpad mouse a USB mouse would make it a lot easier. Start at low sensitivity and push it up as you get more used to it is your best bet to get used to using a mouse :)
My hands are laid out as so:
Middle finger on W (this finger will control W and S)
Pointer on D (This will control D, R for reload, G for taunting and E for medic calling)
Wedding finger on A (Also controls TAB)
Pinky laying over Shift and CTRL
My thumb is laying on space for jumping, but that's really dependant on your hand size tbh.
If you use 1, 2 and 3 (etc) for weapon changing then I guess middle and pointer would control those. If you don't like that (I personally can't stand it) I use my mouse for weapon switches. I use my middle roller click for melee weapon, back button for weapon 1 and forward button for weapon 2.
other than that it's just really practice practice practice. It shouldn't take too long to get a hang of. Try practice even when you're not playing, play out a scenario and do it with your hands.
Some classes are good for practicing like Medic and engy, they don't need such advanced control. Heavy is a fairly good choice too, but there is a large difference between a new heavy and a vet heavy.
Yeah.
Soldier isn't THAT bad starting out but don't try rocket jumps.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:33:05
yeah that's true. Soldier is one of those classes that really gets better as you get better, Demo is the same. I can't play Demo to save my life sadly.
Scout more than any of those though, the amount of skill you need to meat shot pros as a Scout is stupid.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 08:34:38
Shiva.Flionheart said: yeah that's true. Soldier is one of those classes that really gets better as you get better, Demo is the same. I can't play Demo to save my life sadly.
Scout more than any of those though, the amount of skill you need to meat shot pros as a Scout is stupid.
Yeah as a noob if you do well with scout it will honestly be dumb luck XD
When I was a noob soldier was easiest for me because it was just point and shoot rockets. Now I'd much prefer demoman or sniper(Huntsman <3333) tbh.
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By Sylph.Spency 2011-06-24 08:34:51
I'm all excited to play again, haha.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 08:39:26
Ramuh.Rowland said: I needed to order some supplies from our warehouse at work, so I added on 1 USB mouse on the request form ;) I give it 3 weeks before you break it XD
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By Sylph.Spency 2011-06-24 08:40:51
Ramuh.Rowland said: I needed to order some supplies from our warehouse at work, so I added on 1 USB mouse on the request form ;)
I'm so telling.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:41:05
I'm mainly a medic, but heavy is my other secret vice. Pyro... isn't that great sorry to say lol, he's a bit underpowered currently (I haven't played properly in a few months) but he can still do some amazing things. He's situational but a beast with an uber occasionally due to the fact that he has huge damage up close, and runs fast.
He's a good utility class though due to him being able to get rid of sappers and extinguish people.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-06-24 08:41:10
/peek
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 08:42:17
Ramuh.Rowland said: Ramuh.Urial said: Ramuh.Rowland said: I needed to order some supplies from our warehouse at work, so I added on 1 USB mouse on the request form ;) I give it 3 weeks before you break it XD They actually get the good stuff usually. When I needed a flash drive to move around small little text files, they gave me a 16GB drive because that's the smallest they had. o.o o.O
My point being the abuse you'll put it under
Also the weight of office mice is blahhhhhhhh
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-06-24 08:44:32
All this TF2 talk is kinda making me want to give it a shot lol.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:46:01
Ramuh.Rowland said: While fumbling around with the 360 controller and my inability to look up or down, I played pyro and got more kills with it than a solider. Not to say Pyro can't rack up kills at all, but the higher your skill gets, the more you realise most classes have more utility than him.
Need to destroy a sentry, roll Demo
Need to do heavy damage up close, roll Heavy
Need to be a pocket for the medic, roll Soldier
etc etc.
Pyro has utility and he can do some nice things, they just need to turn him into an ambushing class like they did before. When people were new at the game the Pyro could get behind people and reek havoc, but these days people are aware.
I hope they give him some movement improvements like a pseudo rocket jump to take alternative routes so he can ambush groups.
If you do manage to ambush as a pyro you really do wreck ***, especially with the Backburner.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 08:49:27
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Rowland said: While fumbling around with the 360 controller and my inability to look up or down, I played pyro and got more kills with it than a solider. Not to say Pyro can't rack up kills at all, but the higher your skill gets, the more you realise most classes have more utility than him.
Need to destroy a sentry, roll Demo
Need to do heavy damage up close, roll Heavy
Need to be a pocket for the medic, roll Soldier
etc etc.
Pyro has utility and he can do some nice things, they just need to turn him into an ambushing class like they did before. When people were new at the game the Pyro could get behind people and reek havoc, but these days people are aware.
I hope they give him some movement improvements like a pseudo rocket jump to take alternative routes so he can ambush groups.
If you do manage to ambush as a pyro you really do wreck ***, especially with the Backburner.
Canada wrecked me last night like that :/
Backburner did nothing cause I was facing him but I was reloading my time/aoe launcher on demo man after killing a heavy and he wreeeeecked me.
Edit: I love being behind enemies on pyro and seing crit galore. Even heavies drop in seconds to pyro.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 08:53:59
The Backburner is WAY better than it used to be now that I check it out, it's probably superior to the vanilla flamethrower for my playstyle.
That weapon has been so up and down lol.
When they first released it, it gave the Pyro 50 more HP which was incredibly broken, you could tank like a heavy... then they removed it and gave the flamethrower airblast, which made it so useless compared... Then they increased the damage which made it ok, but still less useful
Then they removed the restriction on the airblast and changed the damage a bit and now it's finally balanced lol.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-06-24 08:57:31
Morning everyone. I trust you remembered to show your enemy just how strong your will to live is while I was gone?
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-06-24 09:02:22
So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 09:02:49
I kinda wish you could have seen TF2 when it was less HAT FORTRESS.
Still a great game, but I think the crafting and trading kinda detracts from what made it an amazing game.
Then again I guess I can still enjoy myself, but damn hats.
Too addictive I say.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-06-24 09:05:24
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at? Heavy or Pyro is good to start. Don't start engineer lol.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 09:05:35
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at? We just said that earlier...
Medic
Heavy
Soldier
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-06-24 09:06:11
Asura.Dameshi said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at? Heavy or Pyro is good to start. Don't start engineer lol.
Cool I might go on and do a offline match and see how I do lol.
Rather not waste online players time until I get a little good :p
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-06-24 09:07:20
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: Asura.Dameshi said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at? Heavy or Pyro is good to start. Don't start engineer lol.
Cool I might go on and do a offline match and see how I do lol.
Rather not waste online players time until I get a little good :p Psh do what I did.
Go to a random match and *** around until you find your groove.
I played scout at first was lulz. But honestly I couldn't hit anything with the shotgun.
Edit: Tip...don't try scout or spy as a noob....you'll just look like an ***...oh and meshi has a point even as a noob with pyro you can rush enemies and do some dmg. I took out 3 heavies with my pryo because the DoT and the fact that they didn't have a medic XD
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By Sylph.Spency 2011-06-24 09:07:31
I like engineer. I've always liked having a minion or pet, and I consider the turret a minion of sorts. I also like to defend.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-06-24 09:10:23
Good morning Ni!!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-24 09:10:58
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: So for someone that has not really played TF2... what class would be the best to play first or is the easiest to be at least a bit good at?
Heavy, Medic, Engineer, Pyro and maybe Sniper.
With these classes you can be a credit to the team even with limited knowledge.
Sniper is kinda dependant on whether you're a good sniper on other games.
Pyro is fun if you're not deterred from dying often.
Soldier is ok, but kinda difficult to get to grips with, Demo is like Soldier in hard mode.
Scout is hard to play, but fun.
Spy is... no. Just no.
Medic is easy peasy to play but there's a big difference between a good medic and a new/bad medic. Most important thing to remember as Medic is not to heal the same person as another medic unless that patient is very close to death or the medic clearly can't save him.
Also as a Medic, other medics are VERY high priority, actually highest priority in most situations.
As a medic it's all about situational situations. For example in a situation where a scout is heavily wounded but retreating, a heavy is at full health with enemies bearing down on him, and another medic is running after the wounded scout also with a low amount of health you'd be confused as to who's important to heal first, it's all dependant on the situation, you have to be constantly thinking ahead and planning. Also knowing when it's a good idea to use the Kritzkrieg or the normal medigun.
Engie is easy but provides a vital role in transportation and making footholds.
One teleporter to the front lines can win the match quite easily, and being ready to repair and replace buildings is important. Don't just turtle unless you need to turtle.
Build dispensers near a forward base so people can create a foothold etc.
ok enough waffling.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-06-24 09:11:54
Ramuh.Rowland said: While fumbling around with the 360 controller and my inability to look up or down, I played pyro and got more kills with it than a solider.
I got it to work, but the problem is strafing. You have to do so much to make your 360 controller work like a regular FPS on a console it's not even worth it.
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
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Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present
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